IMO these are moves that we should make for next season(not sure if they would work with salary, the new CBA, and etc)...

1. Current Roster Contracts: Extend Chauncey, bring back Shawne Williams, JJ, Brown, and either Mason Jr or Carter (not both) if they want to stay with minimal contracts,...let Shelden Williams walk.

2. Sign a legit big man...Marc Gasol, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, and Joel Pryzbilla are all available this offseason. All of them would be great additions on this team - but I'm not sure how each would fit into D'Antonis system...he may not like having a center that cant shoot if we get Jordan or Chandler. Again this begs the question, do we build a better team or build a team that only D'Antoni can play with?

3. Draft a young point guard with the #17 pick that Billups can bring under his wing.Dont forget - Rondo was drafted #21 and there are plenty of guards available in this years draft.

Possible 2011-2012 Roster:
C- Gasol/Chandler/Jordan/Pryzbilla
PF - STAT
SF - Melo
SG - Fields
PG - Billups
Bench - TD, Turiaf, Shawne Williams, Walker, Rookie PG (#17 draft pick), Carter/Mason, Balkman, Brown, JJ, and Rautins

Lastly...the coaching situation...D'Antoni is a smart offensive X's and O's guy, but I do not see him getting into the heads of the players and bringing them to the next level. Phil Jax, Pat Riley, Rivers, Poppavich and other successful coaches are all known for the way they can motivate their players. Their successful teams were also known to be able to get stops when it mattered defensively...I don't see D'Antoni doing that. Also, there's no reason we should put all our eggs in one basket and build a team that ONLY D'Antoni can work with in his speedball offense. I'm in favor of firstly building the best available roster, and then going out and getting a coach that can use them properly. I see no reason to pass up on talents like Jordan or Chandler just because it doesnt fit the system of our current coach -there are plenty of other coaches out there that would be delighted to have such talents. I think one of the main reasons DW hired him was because he thought D'Antoni would attract Lebron to NY because so many players liked playing in his free flowing system. But guess what, now we dont have Lebron. We have a roster full of talent and someone who can bring them to the next level in their careers. Donnie Walsh needs to let go of the loyality and force D'Antoni to assimilate or let him go completely. If we do end up keeping D'Antoni next season, something has to change about him... he either needs to hire a defensive specialist, change his "system", or do SOMETHING because this status quo is not gonna work next season.

Again, I'm not sure if these roster changes would work with salary cap and the new CBA but it would be damn good if this were to happen!

Knicks94 wrote:As much as I would like to convince myself that the current team is winning a championship this year, it's not gonna happen. I'd be happy if we can actually compete in the first round and possibly somehow make it to the second round. We need to add more depth and build around our stars. So what's the solution? What kind of players do we go out and get...the best ones available or the ones that can fit D'Antoni's system?

IMO these are moves that we should make for next season(not sure if they would work with salary, the new CBA, and etc)...

1. Current Roster Contracts: Extend Chauncey, bring back Shawne Williams, JJ, Brown, and either Mason Jr or Carter (not both) if they want to stay with minimal contracts,...let Shelden Williams walk.

2. Sign a legit big man...Marc Gasol, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, and Joel Pryzbilla are all available this offseason. All of them would be great additions on this team - but I'm not sure how each would fit into D'Antonis system...he may not like having a center that cant shoot if we get Jordan or Chandler. Again this begs the question, do we build a better team or build a team that only D'Antoni can play with?

How do you extend Chauncey and sign a C?

Also, do you really think Marc Gasol, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan will be available?

Knicks94 wrote:Sry I meant pick up Chauncey's option for next season and sign a center...and yes I do think one of those C's will be available...especially Jordan - given the right amount of money it wont take much to pry him away from that crazy franchise and owner

I am still not sure I understand. Pick up Chancey's $14.3M option? And then what? Cause the Knicks will be over the cap. Did you forget that?

Moonangie wrote:

Knicks94 wrote:As much as I would like to convince myself that the current team is winning a championship this year, it's not gonna happen. I'd be happy if we can actually compete in the first round and possibly somehow make it to the second round. We need to add more depth and build around our stars. So what's the solution? What kind of players do we go out and get...the best ones available or the ones that can fit D'Antoni's system?

IMO these are moves that we should make for next season(not sure if they would work with salary, the new CBA, and etc)...

1. Current Roster Contracts: Extend Chauncey, bring back Shawne Williams, JJ, Brown, and either Mason Jr or Carter (not both) if they want to stay with minimal contracts,...let Shelden Williams walk.

2. Sign a legit big man...Marc Gasol, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, and Joel Pryzbilla are all available this offseason. All of them would be great additions on this team - but I'm not sure how each would fit into D'Antonis system...he may not like having a center that cant shoot if we get Jordan or Chandler. Again this begs the question, do we build a better team or build a team that only D'Antoni can play with?

3. Draft a young point guard with the #17 pick that Billups can bring under his wing.Dont forget - Rondo was drafted #21 and there are plenty of guards available in this years draft.

Possible 2011-2012 Roster:
C- Gasol/Chandler/Jordan/Pryzbilla
PF - STAT
SF - Melo
SG - Fields
PG - Billups
Bench - TD, Turiaf, Shawne Williams, Walker, Rookie PG (#17 draft pick), Carter/Mason, Balkman, Brown, JJ, and Rautins

Lastly...the coaching situation...D'Antoni is a smart offensive X's and O's guy, but I do not see him getting into the heads of the players and bringing them to the next level. Phil Jax, Pat Riley, Rivers, Poppavich and other successful coaches are all known for the way they can motivate their players. Their successful teams were also known to be able to get stops when it mattered defensively...I don't see D'Antoni doing that. Also, there's no reason we should put all our eggs in one basket and build a team that ONLY D'Antoni can work with in his speedball offense. I'm in favor of firstly building the best available roster, and then going out and getting a coach that can use them properly. I see no reason to pass up on talents like Jordan or Chandler just because it doesnt fit the system of our current coach -there are plenty of other coaches out there that would be delighted to have such talents. I think one of the main reasons DW hired him was because he thought D'Antoni would attract Lebron to NY because so many players liked playing in his free flowing system. But guess what, now we dont have Lebron. We have a roster full of talent and someone who can bring them to the next level in their careers. Donnie Walsh needs to let go of the loyality and force D'Antoni to assimilate or let him go completely. If we do end up keeping D'Antoni next season, something has to change about him... he either needs to hire a defensive specialist, change his "system", or do SOMETHING because this status quo is not gonna work next season.

Again, I'm not sure if these roster changes would work with salary cap and the new CBA but it would be damn good if this were to happen!

Mathematics, apparently, is not your strong point.

"Again, I'm not sure if these roster changes would work with salary cap and the new CBA but it would be damn good if this were to happen!"

Apparently reading comprehension isn't your either

martin wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I think NY will buy out Billups and need to find a new PG. Hopefully they can find one cheapish and manage to sign a C somehow.

catch-22. Sign a C, still need a PG. Keep the PG, still need a C.

Or settle for a mediocre C and PG

Paladin55 wrote:

martin wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I think NY will buy out Billups and need to find a new PG. Hopefully they can find one cheapish and manage to sign a C somehow.

catch-22. Sign a C, still need a PG. Keep the PG, still need a C.

Could TD be auditioning for the PG spot over the rest of the year, or are folks still thinking he can never be a #1 PG. If we could give up Billups, sign a decent center and whatever else we can get with $14 M, do we roll the dice with Douglas?

I've been up and down with him as a PG, but he has shown some flashes at times. Most of my comments about him, however, have been more negative in terms of his running a team.

Just wondering.

toney has to take his game up a notch for me to be comfortable with him being or starting pg.

to his credit its only his 2nd yr in the league and he is playing quite well.

there are times i think he can do everything well - pass, shoot, defend, rebound...but then there are other times...