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3/22/2011  9:44 PM
70% FGs, 80% treys, mid third quarter. unreal
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3/22/2011  9:48 PM
I stopped watching, atlanta really bad. I have no idea how their record is better than ours.
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3/22/2011  9:52 PM
loweyecue wrote:I stopped watching, atlanta really bad. I have no idea how their record is better than ours.

because the knicks are worse

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3/22/2011  9:54 PM
loweyecue wrote:I stopped watching, atlanta really bad. I have no idea how their record is better than ours.

Because they beat the teams they have to when they need to.

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3/22/2011  9:58 PM
Man the Bulls play so hard. Rose is just a beast. Knicks should watch this and take away how much effort they are showing even up by 30+. Rose just threw a bad pass and went crazy. They are up by 36. They don't really do anything special on D. Just work their ass off. Very impressed with their pride.
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3/22/2011  10:09 PM
It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.
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3/22/2011  10:12 PM
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

This is very true. But they aren't one of the biggest teams in the league. They hustle and outwork everyone.

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3/22/2011  10:17 PM
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

It helps, but give them credit for their hustle no matter the score. If NY did that they wouldn't be 7-9 since the trade.

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3/22/2011  10:57 PM
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

KT is 40 years old already! And he was run out of here in his prime, with many citing addition by subtraction.

None of those guys are really skill players- doubt D'Antoni would play any of them, save maybe Noah.

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3/22/2011  11:10 PM
franco12 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

KT is 40 years old already! And he was run out of here in his prime, with many citing addition by subtraction.

None of those guys are really skill players- doubt D'Antoni would play any of them, save maybe Noah.

D'antoni sucks as a coach. Period. We have players that suck as players also, and that's the problem.

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3/22/2011  11:33 PM
The Bulls have only given a 100 pts 15 times this year including an o.t. game. That is a coaching and effort stat.
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3/23/2011  12:24 AM
CrushAlot wrote:The Bulls have only given a 100 pts 15 times this year including an o.t. game. That is a coaching and effort stat.

Bulls have a star player who plays very good defense in Derrick Rose. The rest of the team follows.

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3/23/2011  12:39 AM
CrushAlot wrote:The Bulls have only given a 100 pts 15 times this year including an o.t. game. That is a coaching and effort stat.

True. Plus pace.

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3/23/2011  12:40 AM
MSG3 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

This is very true. But they aren't one of the biggest teams in the league. They hustle and outwork everyone.

The hell they aren't.

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3/23/2011  12:41 AM
franco12 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

KT is 40 years old already! And he was run out of here in his prime, with many citing addition by subtraction.

None of those guys are really skill players- doubt D'Antoni would play any of them, save maybe Noah.

you haven't either watched the Bulls or MDA enough to make that kind of statement.

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3/23/2011  1:06 AM
martin wrote:
franco12 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

KT is 40 years old already! And he was run out of here in his prime, with many citing addition by subtraction.

None of those guys are really skill players- doubt D'Antoni would play any of them, save maybe Noah.

you haven't either watched the Bulls or MDA enough to make that kind of statement.

This is the kind of inane, bias crap that Anti MDA crowd keeps repeating Martin. They overlook the fact that we play Turiaf and Jared neither of whom have any skills. I guarantee that if we had Noah he'd play. The thing is that we're looking for help that can defend and also still be a threat to score. They don't have to be great on offense, but it does help if your big can score so it's not 4 on 5. However if you have to, you simply have to play a non offensive C, which Mike has done.

Also KT is still a VERY good defender. He'll always be tough in the post. His man D is still top notch. He makes his man work for everything they get.

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3/23/2011  1:11 AM
martin wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

This is very true. But they aren't one of the biggest teams in the league. They hustle and outwork everyone.

The hell they aren't.

LAL, SAS, ORL, DAL, POR, DEN, BOS, UTAH are all bigger than Chicago. That's just the first teams that came to mind. Even if Chicago is top 10 in bigs, the way they defend would make you think they were top 3.

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3/23/2011  1:29 AM
MSG3 wrote:
martin wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

This is very true. But they aren't one of the biggest teams in the league. They hustle and outwork everyone.

The hell they aren't.

LAL, SAS, ORL, DAL, POR, DEN, BOS, UTAH are all bigger than Chicago. That's just the first teams that came to mind. Even if Chicago is top 10 in bigs, the way they defend would make you think they were top 3.


Since when do you have to be the biggest team? It's the quality of the bigs in terms of how they defend and rebound that matters. In terms of their rotation, Noah, Gibson, Asik and KT is a good bigman contingent. Compare that to us with Amare, Turiaf, Jeffries and S. Williams. None of our guys are great rebounders and only OK defensively.
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3/23/2011  11:38 AM
nixluva wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
martin wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It doesn't hurt that they have Noah, Gibson, KT and Asik inside to help anchor the defense. They have a much better group of bigs than we do in terms of defense and rebounding. Until we address that in the off season we have to make due.

This is very true. But they aren't one of the biggest teams in the league. They hustle and outwork everyone.

The hell they aren't.

LAL, SAS, ORL, DAL, POR, DEN, BOS, UTAH are all bigger than Chicago. That's just the first teams that came to mind. Even if Chicago is top 10 in bigs, the way they defend would make you think they were top 3.


Since when do you have to be the biggest team? It's the quality of the bigs in terms of how they defend and rebound that matters. In terms of their rotation, Noah, Gibson, Asik and KT is a good bigman contingent. Compare that to us with Amare, Turiaf, Jeffries and S. Williams. None of our guys are great rebounders and only OK defensively.

I agree with you. That's the point I was trying to make. Effort and coaching.

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