TMS wrote:doesn't matter how Melo plays he's in the same trap Alex Rodriguez was in when he got here, nothing he ever does will be good enough until he brings a championship to New York... u can point out all the positive things he does on the court & will still be met with derisive & hateful comments from his detractors because the Knicks didn't build up exactly the way some people wanted them to.

The highest form of compliment is when you plagiarize off my thread yesterday.....

19/3/2011 11:26 AM
Stars get held up to higher standards.
I think NY has been brutal to A-Rod until they banked a chip.
Some stars talk more than they do. Coming to NY is what he wanted but one should be careful.
He needs to take his talent and expand on it on the court and off of it. NY is tough but if you embrace it you can fit in.
Yeah, we hold him at a higher standard than "The Departed" yoots because he does.
The eyes of the basketball world are upon Melo.

Melo was already an extremely confident player, but since coming here he's SUPER confident from long range, which is another sign of a player under D'Antoni. We have a bunch of guys that shoot 40% from 3 in our rotation. It's a serious weapon in combination with the individual skills of STAT, Melo, CB and TD. Melo can be a bit streaky from what I see, but when the end of the 4th qtr comes around, he locks in and we've been looking for that kind of player for YEARS!!!

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I've been amazed at his rebounding ability and his passing ability. He's WAY better than advertised in those areas. I also think the longer he plays under D'Antoni the more he will develop his other talents. Like Mike or not, but he actually causes players to expand their games out of necessity. It may not work 100% of the time with less talented players, but when you have a guy like Melo that has untapped talent it has a positive effect. Like Mike or not, he doesn't want guys to just rely on ISO talent. Imagine if Al Harrington had really applied himself to passing more? Melo is looking more and more comfortable passing and also catching and shooting within the offense. Those 3's he was taking off of curls were so on target it wasn't funny, but he's done that from inside the 3pt line as well and looked much more comfortable than when he came here.

Melo was already an extremely confident player, but since coming here he's SUPER confident from long range, which is another sign of a player under D'Antoni. We have a bunch of guys that shoot 40% from 3 in our rotation. It's a serious weapon in combination with the individual skills of STAT, Melo, CB and TD. Melo can be a bit streaky from what I see, but when the end of the 4th qtr comes around, he locks in and we've been looking for that kind of player for YEARS!!!

Seriously, do you have a huge Mike D poster in your room and give him a big wet one before you go to bed at night?

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I've been amazed at his rebounding ability and his passing ability. He's WAY better than advertised in those areas. I also think the longer he plays under D'Antoni the more he will develop his other talents. Like Mike or not, but he actually causes players to expand their games out of necessity. It may not work 100% of the time with less talented players, but when you have a guy like Melo that has untapped talent it has a positive effect. Like Mike or not, he doesn't want guys to just rely on ISO talent. Imagine if Al Harrington had really applied himself to passing more? Melo is looking more and more comfortable passing and also catching and shooting within the offense. Those 3's he was taking off of curls were so on target it wasn't funny, but he's done that from inside the 3pt line as well and looked much more comfortable than when he came here.

Melo was already an extremely confident player, but since coming here he's SUPER confident from long range, which is another sign of a player under D'Antoni. We have a bunch of guys that shoot 40% from 3 in our rotation. It's a serious weapon in combination with the individual skills of STAT, Melo, CB and TD. Melo can be a bit streaky from what I see, but when the end of the 4th qtr comes around, he locks in and we've been looking for that kind of player for YEARS!!!

Seriously, do you have a huge Mike D poster in your room and give him a big wet one before you go to bed at night?

I'm callin it like I see it! He came here as a less than confident shooter from long range and now like just about every player that plays for Mike, he's suddenly confident and shooting for a high %. He almost never went with a quick move on offense, preferring to hold the ball and go ISO and now he's using the offense to get easy shots and create for others. This is part and parcel of playing for D'Antoni. Billups is getting better at it too, not perfect, but they're adjusting. Just stating facts.

I don't know how you are able to say he lacks confidence in his shot. He shoots about 19+ shots a game. I dont think he lacked any confidence in his offensive abilities. He uses quick moves often, you obviously didn't watch him much in Denver. Quickneess is one of his strengths for a guy his size. He nows it and exploits it, he does take his time sometimes too, but thats why the quickness works, he rocks u to sleep.

AnubisADL wrote:Melo is not better than Tracy McGrady in his prime.

Please stop.

"My Dad can beat up up your dad"

The whole "better than" routine, without anything factorial to back it up, is vapid. Tracy McGrady was a prodigious talent. Melo has yet to reach his peak. Whether one was/is better than the other has absolutely no bearing on anything of importance. There is no prize for making such a claim without any rationale.

Isn't that better?

misterearl wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Melo is not better than Tracy McGrady in his prime.

Please stop.

"My Dad can beat up up your dad"

The whole "better than" routine, without anything factorial to back it up, is vapid. Tracy McGrady was a prodigious talent. Melo has yet to reach his peak. Whether one was/is better than the other has absolutely no bearing on anything of importance. There is no prize for making such a claim without any rationale.

Isn't that better?

Anubis is better than misterearl

JrZyHuStLa wrote:He's Vince Carter, Tmac, and Gilbert Arenas.

So your catching on...

holfresh your 100% right and I agree with it all. Melo has the talent to be BEST player on the floor at any given time against ANY other player. Melo has other worldly talent and I dont think any here has ever denied that. So did Vince Carter. He was one of the most celebrated up and coming stars in ANY sport. TMac was going to team with Grant Hill... two of the leagues 5 best players and the titles would just pile up in Orlando. The script was there.

So your catching on...

Where is Melo in all this? Right with those guys.

EVERYONE here wants that to change. EVERYONE HERE wants him to be the hero, the prodigal son... MOST here think he has the talent and SOME here think he will elevate his game to a new level while OTHERS here fear they traded the whole roster for a guy who doesnt take conditioning defense or 50 out of 82 regular season games seriously.

Time will tell. I WANT you to be right. I'm rooting for it.