SupremeCommander wrote:PS: they'll definitely pick up Billups contract. They'll figure out a way to make him work. The only other stopgaps you can get are the Chris Duhons of the world or someone like Ray Felton who has more to prove than he has accomplished. Who is better than Billups? (note: Ramon Sessions is NOT the Tony Parker)

are u kidding if we extend Chauncey u will see 10 different threads from the typical suspects that we shoulda signed Ramon Sessions instead & that he'd be a top 5 player in the NBA if he was 5 inches taller.

SupremeCommander wrote:PS: they'll definitely pick up Billups contract. They'll figure out a way to make him work. The only other stopgaps you can get are the Chris Duhons of the world or someone like Ray Felton who has more to prove than he has accomplished. Who is better than Billups? (note: Ramon Sessions is NOT the Tony Parker)

Yeah,I just took a look at this year's class of free agents and it isn't didn't inspire that much hope. I'm assuming that the Griz are going to lock up Gasol and Zach Randolph's and the David West's of the world will probably be out of our price range, not that they would be a fit anyway. We're looking at guys like Jamal Crawford, Jason Richardson, Shane Battier and maybe Greg Oden this year. Decent players, but I'd rather wait to 2012. Even if we whiff on Chris Paul, Dwight Howard and Deron Williams, we're still looking at decent options at point guard and center for us to try key in on.

I'm not saying Billups is necessarily in the same situation, but it was a concerning move that can go either way. So far, it looks like we're playing much better without Billups in the lineup, but it is early.

Solace wrote:As I recall, we had the same problem in '01 when we traded for Mark Jackson. We gave up a speedy point guard for a very slow one that hits a high FG%. On paper, it looked like a great trade, but it killed the team due to the defensive woes.

I'm not saying Billups is necessarily in the same situation, but it was a concerning move that can go either way. So far, it looks like we're playing much better without Billups in the lineup, but it is early.

Do you forget the 2nd half he had in Cleveland? Or what he did against Miami?? And I'm not even talking about the other huge games he's had in his career and his wealth of experience..The dude was just out with a bad thigh bruise (some reports had it that it was his thigh and his knee)..Let the guy get his sea legs back here, it's only been two games (and he looked a lot better tonight than the first game against Indy at the Garden)..I imagine he's gonna have a big impact in the playoffs provided we don't squander it away down the stretch here..

I think we definitely bring him back for next year..Not interested in extending him past next year at this point like Alan Hahn suggested, but I'd pick up the option for next year..It would then force us to tinker smartly, something I think we need to do anyway. Summer of 2012 in when they need to spend big in FA, not this summer..To me this summer is all about bringing back Chauncey as a bridge to 2012, drafting an impact player 17-20, purchasing a 2nd rounder or 2, bringing in Jerome Jordan and finally adding quality role players on 1 year contracts to round out the roster..I might even see if I can lock up Landry Fields this offseason in the $4M dollar range rather than pay him $7M a season later -- this could be crucial -- $3M in cap savings could mean a world of difference when the summer of 2012 rolls around..There's a good chance, however, that Fields & his agent might refuse to negotiate a deal like that (he probably knows he can get Wes Matthews money eventually, I know that's how I'd feel right now if I were him)---this is why I feel they should consider targeting wing depth in this draft..Good chance that Shawne Williams & Billy Walker are gone and Fields could price himself right out of NY the following year.

To me this is a two year process from right now. Refusing to bring back Chauncey and instead putting all our eggs in DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol's basket does not equal championship in my book..In fact I'd argue that it prevents us from getting there..Patience, good scouting, cap management and a willingness to plug in low salary players (guys than can actually play and fill needs) is what's needed this offseason if you ask me. We've come this far---it would be a shame to screw this up now. The last thing anyone who's watched this team as long as I have should wanna see is for us to box ourselves into a 50-52 win team with no real shot at a chip..I don't wanna be the Atlanta Hawks, I wanna eventually field a LEGIT CHAMPIONSHIP team..There's clearly a difference..I gotta believe they understand this. I just hope & pray they bring Donnie back and let him finish the job..That's also gonna be key..

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Finestrg wrote:

Solace wrote:As I recall, we had the same problem in '01 when we traded for Mark Jackson. We gave up a speedy point guard for a very slow one that hits a high FG%. On paper, it looked like a great trade, but it killed the team due to the defensive woes.

I'm not saying Billups is necessarily in the same situation, but it was a concerning move that can go either way. So far, it looks like we're playing much better without Billups in the lineup, but it is early.

Do you forget the 2nd half he had in Cleveland? Or what he did against Miami?? And I'm not even talking about the other huge games he's had in his career and his wealth of experience..The dude was just out with a bad thigh bruise (some reports had it that it was his thigh and his knee)..Let the guy get his sea legs back here, it's only been two games (and he looked a lot better tonight than the first game against Indy at the Garden)..I imagine he's gonna have a big impact in the playoffs provided we don't squander it away down the stretch here..

I think we definitely bring him back for next year..Not interested in extending him past next year at this point like Alan Hahn suggested, but I'd pick up the option for next year..It would then force us to tinker smartly, something I think we need to do anyway. Summer of 2012 in when they need to spend big in FA, not this summer..To me this summer is all about bringing back Chauncey as a bridge to 2012, drafting an impact player 17-20, purchasing a 2nd rounder or 2, bringing in Jerome Jordan and finally adding quality role players on 1 year contracts to round out the roster..I might even see if I can lock up Landry Fields this offseason in the $4M dollar range rather than pay him $7M a season later -- this could be crucial -- $3M in cap savings could mean a world of difference when the summer of 2012 rolls around..There's a good chance, however, that Fields & his agent might refuse to negotiate a deal like that (he probably knows he can get Wes Matthews money eventually, I know that's how I'd feel right now if I were him)---this is why I feel they should targeting wing depth in this draft..Good chance that Shawne Williams & Billy Walker are gone and Fields could price himself right out of NY the following year...To me this is a two year process from right now. Refusing to bring back Chauncey and instead putting all our eggs in DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol's basket does not equal championship in my book..In fact it prevents us from getting there..Patience, good scouting and cap management is what's needed this offseason if you ask me.

way too much money with so many holes. We have our so-called stars. Now we need to build a correct team round them and try to get this thing going in a better direction. We have to deal with the cards on the table. I think TD is going to be a fine player from the PG position. perfect--no but solid and at times explosive with excellent D. I will point to LA every time when someone says we need a 8 star PG. We need to allocate funds to the 5 and the bench.

Briggs, I think Tony has potential to be a decent bench player but do you see some of the crazy shots he takes early in the shot clock? Who gives him free reign to do that? And, if he is off, which is about half the time (way off), who gives him free reign to keep shooting (bricks)? I like his energy but when he does not have it, shut him down.

Also, his defense is quite pesky, reminds me a bit like Avery Johnson. But, he often over plays the press, overruns the PG, help needs to step up and the team gets burned. I've seen this happen numerous times of the past few games.

I just wish he would play under more control offensively and defensively. I have see a bit of improvement in his passing though.