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Killa4luv
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3/11/2011  7:42 PM
I mean, could he be part of a package for a Deandre Jordan or Javelle McGee?

Or could he be partof a package for a lessor player and a pick?

I know everyone loves the guy, and I like him too, but I'm just saying.

I'd love to know what other GMs put his value as. He is playing really well for a first year player and truly was a steal.

Can we get a big for him and should we do it?
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3/11/2011  8:44 PM
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Q. Killa4luv - Can we get a big for him and should we do it?

A. No and no. Fields has bonded with New York and vice versa. I'm still adjusting to Gallo and Mozgov in powder blue.

Q. Killa4luv - could (Landry) be part of a package for a Deandre Jordan or JaVale McGee?

A. Ancient proverb says a 7' center in hand, who can dunk two balls at once on side by side backboards, is worth two rookie forwards in the bushes. Wizards say no. DeAndre Jordan is just getting introduced to Mo Williams. Clippers say no.

Q. Killa4luv - Or could (Landry) be part of a package for a lessor player and a pick?

A. Go ahead... make my day... give up a potential Hondo for a lessor player and a crap shoot pick who turns into Eric Chenowith

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3/11/2011  8:58 PM
These guys don't like nobody. The term is eating your young
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3/11/2011  9:18 PM
I think if you can get a big for a small you generally do that. Fields is good but I think Walsh would move him to get McGee or Jordan. However, the coach plays Fields. Jordan and McGee are bigs and not finished products. I think Walsh would have to have assurances from D'Antoni that he would play either of those guys. Also, I am pretty sure neither is being traded. I think the Clips move Kaman.
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3/11/2011  9:19 PM
it's a tough call, i doubt the Knicks will make any big moves this summer unless it's for a bonafide star player... Jordan's got some intriguing upside but he's still very much a work in progress i don't think the Knicks would sacrifice Landry up to get him especially w/the big free agent pool waiting in the wings in 2012... then again, Landry will be up for a pay raise that summer as well, so trading him to get a good young player on a reasonable contract might be an attractive option depending on the terms of the new CBA & what kind of flexibility to make moves this team will have next summer.
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3/11/2011  9:34 PM
Killa4luv wrote:I mean, could he be part of a package for a Deandre Jordan or Javelle McGee?

Or could he be partof a package for a lessor player and a pick?

I know everyone loves the guy, and I like him too, but I'm just saying.

I'd love to know what other GMs put his value as. He is playing really well for a first year player and truly was a steal.

Can we get a big for him and should we do it?

I want Landry Fields here for a decade. Why would we give up a player who will probably make the All-Rookie 1st Team. Why don't we go into the offseason and see who we draft and who is available to sign free agent.

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3/11/2011  10:15 PM
Fields could potential command something similar to what Wesley Matthews did on Portand, which was surprisingly high. Fields is a more complete player, though Matthews has proven he has a knack for scoring.
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3/11/2011  10:18 PM
what toodark said

"I want Landry Fields here for a decade."

and after that I want him as head coach for another fifteen years

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3/12/2011  1:14 AM
Sangfroid wrote:These guys don't like nobody. The term is eating your young

Yup.

People should just imagine that Fields is in his third year in the NBA, that he began his career on another team, and was picked up in a great trade where we gave away a few scrubs not worth remembering.

This should satisfy certain folks.

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3/12/2011  7:01 AM
If he keeps up his scoring at 12 - 15 points a game and his good defense, I could imagine him getting anywhere from 4 - 7 million.

His value at this point might be a mid lottery pick, even higher depending on the team. I don't see us trading him for a pick though, unless we traded our pick and him to move up high into the lottery, but again doubt we'd do that. Too much of a chance and we would still need a SG if we grabbed a center.

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3/12/2011  7:12 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:If he keeps up his scoring at 12 - 15 points a game and his good defense, I could imagine him getting anywhere from 4 - 7 million.

His value at this point might be a mid lottery pick, even higher depending on the team. I don't see us trading him for a pick though, unless we traded our pick and him to move up high into the lottery, but again doubt we'd do that. Too much of a chance and we would still need a SG if we grabbed a center.

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1. Landry Fields will average 17 points a game by his third NBA season. (in my best Cajun accent) Gar-RON-teed.

2. You don't trade Landry Fields any more than you trade John Havlicek

3. The mid lottery draft pick will turn out to be Hilton Armstrong

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3/12/2011  7:16 AM
misterearl wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:If he keeps up his scoring at 12 - 15 points a game and his good defense, I could imagine him getting anywhere from 4 - 7 million.

His value at this point might be a mid lottery pick, even higher depending on the team. I don't see us trading him for a pick though, unless we traded our pick and him to move up high into the lottery, but again doubt we'd do that. Too much of a chance and we would still need a SG if we grabbed a center.

Three Points

1. Landry Fields will average 17 points a game by his third NBA season. (in my best Cajun accent) Gar-RON-teed.


On a team with Amare and Carmelo? I have a hard time seeing that.
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3/12/2011  7:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2011  7:26 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:If he keeps up his scoring at 12 - 15 points a game and his good defense, I could imagine him getting anywhere from 4 - 7 million.

His value at this point might be a mid lottery pick, even higher depending on the team. I don't see us trading him for a pick though, unless we traded our pick and him to move up high into the lottery, but again doubt we'd do that. Too much of a chance and we would still need a SG if we grabbed a center.

Three Points

1. Landry Fields will average 17 points a game by his third NBA season. (in my best Cajun accent) Gar-RON-teed.


On a team with Amare and Carmelo? I have a hard time seeing that.

Bonn1997 - if Havlicek could score with Dave Cowens and Jo Jo White, Landry Fields can score with Amare and Carmelo.

Former Celtic teammate, Kermit Washington, said: "A lot of people identify with and love Havlicek because John wasn't born the best. He had to depend on hustle and determination and guts to get through all those years and win all those games. Fans relate to that."


Bob Cousy, risking sacrilege, remembers Havlicek when he came out of Ohio State and joined the Celtics for the 1962-63 season as a "non-shooter who would probably burn himself out." But Havlicek taught himself to shoot the next summer. (very important) Havlicek taught himself to shoot the next summer.

Cooz said, Havlicek would burn himself out. Cousy said the same thing when Havlicek turned 38 years old.

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3/12/2011  7:27 AM
I can imagine Landry averaging 15 or so points a game if Stat and Melo trust him to score, much the same can be said for Douglas.

I really like Fields and since he is our starting SG I just don't see him being traded, especially since he is the perfect Glue Plus guy (come on, he has earned the plus). I agree we DON'T trade him.

We really have got to make the most of this years pick, in light of us having Billups here next year and maxing out our cap.

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3/12/2011  7:45 AM
It would be a bad idea to trade Fields unless it is for a star. He is a home grown talent and perfect SG for this team. He does all of the little things and he is really developing into a strong 3-point shooter. He could soon become one of the best spot up shooters in the league.
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3/12/2011  6:22 PM
I like keeping Field because his real value is his price against the cap...He is a cheap player that actually contributes...We really can't afford to have guys eat up the cap that really cant help us...That's one positive thing in moving Mozgov and AR...Only way I'll trade Fields is for a big man like Serge Ibaka...All said I would like to keep Fields..He needs to distinguish himself as a player tho...I would love to see him step up defensively...I would love to see him be a lock down defender...He has the size to play big guards and small forwards...Right now he is ok defensively but can improve...
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3/12/2011  10:13 PM
There's no reason why he couldn't command a salary similar to that of Wesley Matthews.

A few statistical callouts:
* Not only is Fields leading all NBA guards in rebounding at 6.9 rpg, only *2* small forwards rebound more than him (Durant, at 7.3rpg, LBJ, at 7.6rpg).

* In addition, Landry Fields leads all NBA wings (SG + SF) in FG% (51.9%). Only *1* PG in the NBA has a higher FG% (that's Tony Parker at 52.3%).

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3/12/2011  10:29 PM
holfresh wrote:I like keeping Field because his real value is his price against the cap...He is a cheap player that actually contributes...We really can't afford to have guys eat up the cap that really cant help us...That's one positive thing in moving Mozgov and AR...Only way I'll trade Fields is for a big man like Serge Ibaka...All said I would like to keep Fields..He needs to distinguish himself as a player tho...I would love to see him step up defensively...I would love to see him be a lock down defender...He has the size to play big guards and small forwards...Right now he is ok defensively but can improve...

Patience

Landry Fields has yet to play one full NBA season and has not played in his first playoff game.

Why must his expectations be cast in the shadow of the next coveted player?

Why is Oklahoma City suddenly interested in giving up their version of standing 7' tall and talented Serge Ibaka? He dunks from the free throw line and is gaining experience every day as a part of their yoots.

Repeat after me. "Fields is only a rookie... he is only a rookie... he is only a rookie..."

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3/12/2011  10:45 PM
For once, I agree with Mr Earl. Landry Fields is uber important to how this team plays. More than that, teams that are built around two superstars NEED a glue guy, a guy who erases mistakes. Fields has been stellar in this role. We need to keep Fields and find a center who bring his own amount of Landry to the game.

Fields is The Eraser, The Laundry Man. He is essential to this team now, in the playoffs and for the next five years as the guy who cleans up the mistakes, or put better, fills in the holes in the games of our almost complete superstars.

Landry stays.

If Landry had been the sticking point in the Melo trade, I think Donnie would have held firm and bowed out. Fields will be here. There are other ways to get a big man.

I'm curious to see Jerome Jordan - I actually had him ranked pretty highly last year in the draft. He could be great for us.

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3/12/2011  11:16 PM
Well, will Fields have to go after next season? His contract status as a 2nd rounder is unstable vs that of a first rounder (ie Toney Douglas), whose asking price is predictable and locked in for 4 years or so.
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