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Another ghost is exorcized: Freddy Weis retires
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DrAlphaeus
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3/10/2011  3:41 PM

Eddy Curry is gone, all that remains of the Isiah reign is public denials and a repatriated Renaldo Balkman, and now the Man Who Shall Forever Be Remembered Between Vince Carter's Legs has hung up his Le Coq Sportifs.

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/index?id=6202406


Thu, Mar 10 3:08 PM ET
by Thomas Neumann

Frederic Weis, the 7-foot-2 French center who found himself on the wrong end of a Vince Carter dunk in the 2000 Olympics, retired Thursday at age 33 because of knee problems.

It's probably not a bad move, considering he had scored seven points in his past seven games with French club Limoges. He averaged 1.6 points and 2.7 rebounds per game this season.

Still, he's best known as the victim of Carter's stunning dunk at the Sydney Games, a stuff that was equally impressive in English and in French.

Don't forget, however, that the Knicks selected Weis No. 15 overall in 1999 -- one spot ahead of hometown baller Ron Artest. Considering that Weis never appeared in a single NBA game, Page 2 looks back at a few of the players picked after him in that draft who would've been better choices.

• No. 16 overall, Artest: Halftime sips of Hennessey notwithstanding, Ron-Ron has been an impact player throughout his pro career.

• No. 21 overall, Jeff Foster: A serviceable big man still playing in the NBA today.

• No. 22 overall, Kenny Thomas: Former New Mexico forward enjoyed a solid 11-year career with Rockets, 76ers and Kings.

• No. 23 overall, Devean George: Played 11 NBA seasons, won three rings with Lakers.

• No. 24 overall, Andrei Kirilenko: Hopefully time has healed the wounds of Knicks fans.

• No. 41 overall, Francisco Elson: Another serviceable post player who remains active.

• No. 45 overall, Ryan Robertson: Former Kansas guard scored five points in his only NBA game -- but still an awesome pick compared to Weis.

• No. 57 overall, Manu Ginobili: That Weis pick is looking worse and worse, isn't it?

Ultimately, Weis reminds us what an abject disaster Scott Layden was as general manager of the Knicks ... even though Isiah Thomas made him somewhat forgettable by comparison.

So adieu, Frederic. If by any chance you're reading this, can you please tell us the French word for "stiff"?

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Ira
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3/10/2011  3:42 PM
Layden wasn't the gm when Weiss was picked.
DrAlphaeus
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3/10/2011  3:43 PM
I was wondering that... so was that Grunfeld?
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3/10/2011  3:43 PM
Ed Tapscott was, I believe
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Ira
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3/10/2011  3:45 PM
I think it was Tapscott, too.
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3/10/2011  3:46 PM
Artest was the obvious choice...totally ridiculous draft pick
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3/10/2011  3:47 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/399131-the-10-biggest-reaches-in-nba-draft-history/page/11

Good catch, guys. This backs you up, but of course my UK brethren would be in the know. Ah, ESPN, the leader in reporting that sounds good enough.

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3/10/2011  3:59 PM
I'd like to think of Weiss as the man who sparked the revolution in French hoops. His inability to play showed guys like Tony Parker and Roni Turiaf how hard they needed to work to make it at the next level.
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3/10/2011  4:04 PM
There were grumblings before that Ed selected Wiess for payback. Loyalty to Grunfeld.
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3/10/2011  4:07 PM
As a huge SJU and Artest fan, I remember this day as much as when Charles Smith missed those layups; Punched a wall in my college apartment in the bronx. Was livid for a week. Still to this day I wonder how the hell you can pass up on Ron Artest, oh thats right we had friggin Shandon Anderson. sigh.
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3/10/2011  4:09 PM
NYKBocker wrote:There were grumblings before that Ed selected Wiess for payback. Loyalty to Grunfeld.

the Principal-Agent Problem lesson learned here was never, ever let an interim manager make a decision of consequence before both ownership and the manager agree to more formal terms regarding the future

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3/10/2011  4:25 PM
MattSuspect wrote:As a huge SJU and Artest fan, I remember this day as much as when Charles Smith missed those layups; Punched a wall in my college apartment in the bronx. Was livid for a week. Still to this day I wonder how the hell you can pass up on Ron Artest, oh thats right we had friggin Shandon Anderson. sigh.

God dammit! He was FOULED!!!!

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3/10/2011  7:00 PM
This guy takes the term "bust" to a whole new level.
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3/10/2011  7:19 PM
Ed Tapscott was the interim GM when that bum Fred Weis was selected over Artest. I still remember how shocked and disgusted I was then that selection was announced. The Bulls selected Artest with the selection immediately after ours.

If he made that selection as some sabotage tactic against the Knicks, then he never should have been allowed to work for an NBA team on any level, ever again. Why would he do something like that out of loyalty to Grunfeld, when he could have made smart moves and benefited from the progress the Knicks would have made. I guess Karma saw to it that he wouldn't ever enjoy any significant success as an exec after that.

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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3/10/2011  7:38 PM
You know we would have traded Artest for Weis eventually!

Didn't Layden advise Roosevelt at the Malta Conference?

Didn't he set up the Bay of Pigs invasion?

Didn't he negotiate the sale of Manhattan for the Indians?

Wasn't he station chief an Tehran in 1980 and said "Every thing is Irie"?

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3/10/2011  8:09 PM
rest in peace, frenchie.
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Another ghost is exorcized: Freddy Weis retires

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