[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Keith Benson...seems like a fit...needs strength..above average athleticism
Author Thread
Rookie
Posts: 27026
Alba Posts: 28
Joined: 10/15/2008
Member: #2274

3/8/2011  2:57 PM
Projected - second round 37th

Keith Benson, Oakland - Senior

Forward/Center- 6'11, 225

18.2 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 3.4 bpg, 52.3% FG, 70.9% FT

Offense

Post Skills- Benson has developed into a reliable low-post scoring option over the last few years. Though he doesn’t have ideal strength or bulk, he uses his body very well getting position on the blocks. He has developed an impressive array of post moves, including the ability to make a move over either shoulder, and his movements are very smooth into the shot. He has a nice touch around the rim, though he often settles for fade-away shots instead of going strong to the rim. He runs into issues when he is being defended by someone stronger than him, as he tends to get pushed away from the blocks and is forced into a jumper. He has the ability to face-up in the post and hit the short jumper or take his man to the rim, though again, he needs to finish stronger at the rim.

Footwork- Benson moves his feet well in the post, though there is still room for improvement. He is much stronger making movements over his left shoulder than right, and it shows in the awkwardness of his movements. He also runs into problems when he sees the double-team coming, where he tends to become very tentative in his movements and gets caught in bad situations.

Ballhandling/Hands/Penetration- Benson has soft hands and does a good job creating a big target and handles most passes well. His ballhandling skills are adequate, though if he is forced away from the basket, he has a tendency to start taking needless dribbles which often work against him. He has the ability to draw his man to outside and get by him with his dribble, though he gets a little wild if help defenders come over to stop him. He then tends to either force a bad shot, or get caught in a bad situation.

Perimeter Shooting- Benson has become a reliable mid-range jump shooter, with the ability to consistently hit from 15 feet. The combination of his length and his release point make stopping his jumper extremely tough, and if he can speed up his release time a little bit, he could be very dangerous at the next level. He has shown that he can move out to the three-point line and hit, though it is not ideal as he seems to lack confidence when he takes that shot.

Rebounding/Passing- Benson is an excellent rebounder, who has the room to become even better. He is very good at anticipating where the miss is going to go and he goes after the ball strong, at times almost snatching it off the rim. Where he has problems, again, have to do with his strength. Even when he does grab the offensive rebound, he doesn’t always have the strength to muscle a put back up in a crowd. Once he develops more upper body strength, he should be able to do more with these rebounds. While he sees the court well, his passing ability, especially out of the double team, isn’t great. He needs to react quicker and sense where the open man will be when he is doubled.

Free Throw Shooting - Benson is a good free throw shooter, and most important, he gets to the line regularly. Again, once he becomes stronger, he should be able to draw more contact down low and get to the line even more than he does now.

Defense

Post Defense- Benson does a good job defending the post, especially using his long arms to deny entry passes in. However, this is something that he needs to do out of necessity, as he lacks the strength to stop most other post players from backing him down once they get the ball. He moves his feet well, and does a good job anticipating where the offensive player will make his move, though he needs to get to the spot quicker to avoid silly fouls, and his long arms make it difficult to get easy shots. He is also a very strong help defender out of the post, anticipating well and being able to rotate over quickly to make a play.

Perimeter Defense- Benson is still a bit awkward when guarding out from around the lane, though he has improved. The main thing he needs to work on is hedging better on the high pick and roll. He seems to never make a clear decision once the screen is set, and he is either a second late jumping out on the ballahndler or a second late recovering to his man. His footwork has improved though, and he has done a much better job at recovering once his man makes a move by him.

Rebounding/Blocking- As on the offensive end, Benson is a great rebounder, anticipating well and going after the ball strong, but his lack of strength leaves him vulnerable to getting pushed out of position, even when he boxes out well. He is an excellent shot blocker, with great timing and the ability to go after the ball without fouling and keeping the block alive for his teammates to recover it.

Summary & Intangibles

Athleticism – Above Average

BB IQ - Above Average

Benson has turned himself into a NBA-level player during his time at Oakland. His skill-set could make him valuable to many different teams, though his lack of strength could hinder his ability to get serious time, though this is something that can be fixed. His rebounding and blocking skills alone will get him first round consideration, and when you throw in his ability to knock down the 15-footer consistently, I would be surprised if he wasn’t a first round pick in 2011, though I see it being late first round. Of course, if he can get Oakland to the NCAA Tournament and show his stuff to a wider audience, he could make a run to the 21-25 range.

AUTOADVERT
Rookie
Posts: 27026
Alba Posts: 28
Joined: 10/15/2008
Member: #2274

3/8/2011  3:03 PM
Ira
Posts: 24688
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/14/2001
Member: #91
3/8/2011  3:06 PM
I like Benson, but the big man I'm hoping for with our first round pick is Markief Morris. I'm hoping we get/buy a late first round pick and use it on Hansbrough.
Juice
Posts: 21742
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/2/2009
Member: #2968

3/8/2011  3:07 PM
I mentioned him in the thread BRIGGS created about most underrated D-1 prospect right below this one. He's absolutely a must on our big board assuming we can do something in the draft pending records us and Rockets. I've been on him quietly for a while about Mid November after I saw him make clutch play after clutch play on both ends of the floor.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=38499&page=1

Rookie
Posts: 27026
Alba Posts: 28
Joined: 10/15/2008
Member: #2274

3/8/2011  3:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/8/2011  3:23 PM
I was looking for that thread to see if he was mentioned...seems to good a fit here to have been missed

the only knock for me is...looking at his frame, he's never gonna really fill out and be a beast...but he does have above average BB IQ and Athleticism according to scouts.

Finestrg
Posts: 27296
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/1/2006
Member: #1069

3/8/2011  5:20 PM
Rookie wrote:I was looking for that thread to see if he was mentioned...seems to good a fit here to have been missed

the only knock for me is...looking at his frame, he's never gonna really fill out and be a beast...but he does have above average BB IQ and Athleticism according to scouts.

Chad Ford really layed into him in his top 100 over on ESPN calling him a terrible defender that can't guard his own position..That's funny the last time I looked up this dude was leading the country in shot-blocking..Not bad for a guy that plays zero defense I guess, huh Chad?

Rookie
Posts: 27026
Alba Posts: 28
Joined: 10/15/2008
Member: #2274

3/8/2011  9:14 PM
Oakland is on ESPN2 right now if anyone wants to see the kid play
Finestrg
Posts: 27296
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/1/2006
Member: #1069

3/8/2011  9:19 PM
Rookie wrote:Oakland is on ESPN2 right now if anyone wants to see the kid play

Got the DVR rolling..Thanks bro..Good lookin'.

Juice
Posts: 21742
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/2/2009
Member: #2968

3/8/2011  9:41 PM
He's not looking too shabby. Appears to be pacing himself. IQ is there started the game with 2 ast right out of double teams...Anti EY Curry. Kid is smooth
BigDaddyG
Posts: 39886
Alba Posts: 9
Joined: 1/22/2010
Member: #3049

3/8/2011  9:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/8/2011  9:53 PM
Juice wrote:He's not looking too shabby. Appears to be pacing himself. IQ is there started the game with 2 ast right out of double teams...Anti EY Curry. Kid is smooth

He's also the anti-Curry in that I'm actually encouraging him to eat. He's Keon Clark skinny and I'm not sure how much he can fill out.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
Sangfroid
Posts: 24681
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/7/2009
Member: #2784

3/8/2011  10:26 PM
This guy goes before pick 37.
"We are playing a game. We are playing at not playing a game..."
Juice
Posts: 21742
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/2/2009
Member: #2968

3/8/2011  10:39 PM
Sick follow by Benson 10min ago

and

Strong post move off the glass

and

Great hustle going after the ball

Juice
Posts: 21742
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/2/2009
Member: #2968

3/8/2011  10:44 PM
Oh My....Benson totally took over this second half....he's a freak

Oakland is a nasty team in general

simrud
Posts: 23392
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/13/2003
Member: #474
USA
3/9/2011  2:01 AM
He looks more of a PF to me from that youtube video, and a damn good one. Body type looks similar to Bosh. Not sure he would work well with STAT.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
3/9/2011  2:12 AM
simrud wrote:He looks more of a PF to me from that youtube video, and a damn good one. Body type looks similar to Bosh. Not sure he would work well with STAT.

He's not strong enough to be an NBA C but he does remind me a bit of Lemarcus Aldridge when he first came into the league at 225-230 or so.

RIP Crushalot😞
Finestrg
Posts: 27296
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/1/2006
Member: #1069

3/9/2011  9:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/9/2011  9:41 AM
Juice wrote:Oh My....Benson totally took over this second half....he's a freak

Oakland is a nasty team in general

His energy level did appear to pick up in the 2nd half..Pretty quiet 28 & 14 though -- all in the flow with a lot of damage done at the foul line it seemed..His lack of bulk is a big concern at the next level..Dude gets pushed around a little underneath. Although he did damage, he didn't really pursue every rebound & block shot opportunity like it was his last--like a Kenneth Faried for example..Faried just shows relentless hustle all the time, every play..These two guys have completely different motors (not sure if anyone has the motor Faried has)..I felt Benson kinda went through the motions a bit in this game, esp in the 1st half..A lot of that has to do with the fact that his team is actually pretty good so he doesn't have to shoulder the whole burden all the time..Reggie Hamilton, Drew Valentine and Will Hudson are all pretty good players..I wouldn't wanna play this team in the tournament. They have a chance to really upset a good team in the 1st round...Benson needs to work on getting stronger, picking up his intensity level a good deal and fix a tiny hitch he has in his FT/jumpshot mechanic..He improves in those areas, he's a player at the next level. The two guys calling the game seemed convinced he's gonna be a lottery pick..Definitely 1st round.

Rookie
Posts: 27026
Alba Posts: 28
Joined: 10/15/2008
Member: #2274

3/9/2011  9:40 AM
kid has skills...but was easily bodied out of position...he's already 23, don't think he's gonna be strong enough to play effectively in the nba...to bad, he's got some talent
Juice
Posts: 21742
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/2/2009
Member: #2968

3/9/2011  10:50 AM
You guys do know Lamarcus Aldridge wasn't Big Body when he came into the league right?

You guys do know Joakim Noah wasn't Big Body when he came into the league to play Center right?

You guys do know Chris Bosh wasn't Big Body when he came into the league and still isn't Big Body right?

You guys do know David Lee wasn't Big Body when he came into the league and he's about average power forward body at the moment right?

You guys do know Serge Ibaka wasn't Big Body when he came into the league manning time at center and has just started to come into his body right?

You guys do know before we traded for him and some of you even after trading him lament over the fact we let Skinny Randolph go who wasn't and still isn't Big Body right?


Last night they were referring to the Benson as sure fire LOTTERY talent. Of course if he is we're probably out of contention to get him but if he's on the board and we pass we're stupid. His presence on the floor is what allows his teammates to get off. I noticed a lot of little things he was doing to help his teammates get off. College is a different game too when considering fouls looked like he was trying to protect himself from building up quick fouls.

BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
3/9/2011  11:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/9/2011  11:23 AM
Juice wrote:You guys do know Lamarcus Aldridge wasn't Big Body when he came into the league right?

You guys do know Joakim Noah wasn't Big Body when he came into the league to play Center right?

You guys do know Chris Bosh wasn't Big Body when he came into the league and still isn't Big Body right?

You guys do know David Lee wasn't Big Body when he came into the league and he's about average power forward body at the moment right?

You guys do know Serge Ibaka wasn't Big Body when he came into the league manning time at center and has just started to come into his body right?

You guys do know before we traded for him and some of you even after trading him lament over the fact we let Skinny Randolph go who wasn't and still isn't Big Body right?


Last night they were referring to the Benson as sure fire LOTTERY talent. Of course if he is we're probably out of contention to get him but if he's on the board and we pass we're stupid. His presence on the floor is what allows his teammates to get off. I noticed a lot of little things he was doing to help his teammates get off. College is a different game too when considering fouls looked like he was trying to protect himself from building up quick fouls.

He's got talent and athletic size--wouldnt be a bad draft pick at all--but you will be waiting on him a bit. I think the Knicks would have to weigh that in. There is no doubt about it he will be bodied and because hes kind of a tweener 4-5 will have some work to do to find what hi niche is in the NBA(and there are motor concerns. I think the Knicks have to weigh in is a kid ready to go now at this point--although Im never opposed to taking BPA if thast what they feel. Hes going round 1 and we could do worse than bringing in 6-11 and 7-1(Jordan) even if we have to wait on them a bit.
I like Kemba Walker if he could truly fall to 17 or whatever(although I dont think he will) Kemba will automatically be in a 9 man rotation and bring tremendous speed defense and the ability to push the ball as fast as anyone in the NBA. He probably has the best body control in the draft--Ive seen all of the Uconn guys practice/play over the years and seeing Kemba up close--hes the fastest guy I have ever seen dribbling. I think hes only around 5-11 but well put together. His jumpshot has gone from D 2 B- in 3 years--you like to see that improvement and his mid range game is right up there--good vision tough re bounder mean in your face defender all in a ready to go package. I think well do well whether we make a pick trade back or trade out--I trust DW.

RIP Crushalot😞
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
3/9/2011  3:52 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Juice wrote:You guys do know Lamarcus Aldridge wasn't Big Body when he came into the league right?

You guys do know Joakim Noah wasn't Big Body when he came into the league to play Center right?

You guys do know Chris Bosh wasn't Big Body when he came into the league and still isn't Big Body right?

You guys do know David Lee wasn't Big Body when he came into the league and he's about average power forward body at the moment right?

You guys do know Serge Ibaka wasn't Big Body when he came into the league manning time at center and has just started to come into his body right?

You guys do know before we traded for him and some of you even after trading him lament over the fact we let Skinny Randolph go who wasn't and still isn't Big Body right?


Last night they were referring to the Benson as sure fire LOTTERY talent. Of course if he is we're probably out of contention to get him but if he's on the board and we pass we're stupid. His presence on the floor is what allows his teammates to get off. I noticed a lot of little things he was doing to help his teammates get off. College is a different game too when considering fouls looked like he was trying to protect himself from building up quick fouls.

He's got talent and athletic size--wouldnt be a bad draft pick at all--but you will be waiting on him a bit. I think the Knicks would have to weigh that in. There is no doubt about it he will be bodied and because hes kind of a tweener 4-5 will have some work to do to find what hi niche is in the NBA(and there are motor concerns. I think the Knicks have to weigh in is a kid ready to go now at this point--although Im never opposed to taking BPA if thast what they feel. Hes going round 1 and we could do worse than bringing in 6-11 and 7-1(Jordan) even if we have to wait on them a bit.
I like Kemba Walker if he could truly fall to 17 or whatever(although I dont think he will) Kemba will automatically be in a 9 man rotation and bring tremendous speed defense and the ability to push the ball as fast as anyone in the NBA. He probably has the best body control in the draft--Ive seen all of the Uconn guys practice/play over the years and seeing Kemba up close--hes the fastest guy I have ever seen dribbling. I think hes only around 5-11 but well put together. His jumpshot has gone from D 2 B- in 3 years--you like to see that improvement and his mid range game is right up there--good vision tough re bounder mean in your face defender all in a ready to go package. I think well do well whether we make a pick trade back or trade out--I trust DW.

Kemba is very good when the opponents plays a more traditional NBA style d. Impossible to guard 1-1 and is a one man fast break but also a solid willing passer.
Last 3 games 29 pts 7 rebounds 4 assists 53%

RIP Crushalot😞
Keith Benson...seems like a fit...needs strength..above average athleticism

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy