Ira wrote:I'm very happy with the job he's been doing in Billups' absence. It's true that he's not a classic point guard in the John Stockton mode. But he's showing more ability in that respect and brings so much else to the table. His d is very good; he pushes the ball up well and he has a good outside shot. Buying that pick and using it on Douglas was a big plus for the Knicks.

Toney's shot is not really good. He's a streak shooter shooting 41% from the field, 34% from 3. These aren't good numbers. His defense is overrated. All he does is try to go for a steal most of the time and gets lost on assignments.

Anthony Carter is a better defender. Carter is also a better point guard. I would prefer he start and play more minutes than Toney.

I am not sold yet but I am happy with his production right now. I hope he continues.

Apparently the "defense-optional" memo New York sends everybody never reached Douglas. On a team full of marginal defenders, Douglas' ferocious D stands out even more, and his role is increasing now with 34-year-old Chauncey Billups unlikely to bear the insane minutes load that Raymond Felton did.

He's not a natural point guard and he's a bit small for the 2, but at either spot he guards like crazy (witness the Orlando game last week, when Chris Duhon could barely get the ball across half court against him). Additionally, the Melo trade may benefit him by allowing him to play off the ball and spot up for 3s more, something he does quite well. He already has three 20-point games since the trade and he had only four such games before the trade.

Sat out a year after leaving Auburn. He was a high 16-20 a game as a freshman scoring guard. He wanted to play point.
They would not bend he transfers to FSU and sits a year.

At FSU he plays for Leonard Hamilton. The same Michael Jordan chose for his coach when he bought into the Wizards
Who also coached Starks at Oklahoma State Great defensive coach ...Seminoles have not been known for offense since they teamed Sura, Cassell and Ward in the backcourt (nice back court eh?)

Toney really came on strong his sophomore year. He and Al Thornton keyed up for several victories and a likely NCAA run
Douglas broke a bone in his hand and went NIT without him. They upset Florida (that's national champ Noah, Horford, Lee Brewer etc) and Duke that year.

The next year they were 4 guards. NIT

His last year they took in 6 freshman and made the NCAA tourney. Wisconsin vs FSU was as slow as it gets. Wisconson got the no-calls and the win But TD took them to the first ACC Championship game. Many felt he was shafted on ACC POY since Lawson was a Carolina product.

Toney will kill you late game if you give him -any- room. He can shoot off the dribble, ball denial is awesome, pressures on the ball well. His floater is a work in progress but this is a full time gig and TD does work. Expect him to get there.

I do feel his progress has been hampered by injury He's tough though Not often you see a guy pop in a dislocated shoulder then handle the ball and get an assist.

mreinman wrote:everyone loves TD when his shot is on and can't stand him when he is off. a true feast or famine player. I find such inconsistency too frustrating.

The guy needs to get his PG skills up before I give him any props, other then "good job".

He has one double digit assist game in his 1st 100 or so games. I know he doesn't start and he's only been in the league a year and a half, but I have a hard time with a shoot first pg, unless your marbury(in his prime) or AI.

When we drafted him, I couldn't find a single highlight were he made a nice assist, as a matter a fact, I couldn't find a single highlight where he pass the ball at all. He's going to be a career back up, if he doesn't learn how to run a team, because he's way to streaky and 2 small to every be a true SG.

His defense is a little overated and his IQ needs to improve a lot on defense. Too many times he's too aggressive and some times too shallow. That was totally evident against the cavs, he overplayed sessions, and backed off of baron, one shot 3's the other penetrated.

knicks1248 wrote:Go figure, I point out yesterday that TD never had a double digit assist game in his Basketball career(college or the pro's), and he gets 10 assits the very next night against Memphis, THINK THEY READ THIS FORUM..

You need to point that out before every game. The team is depending on you.