Berman wrote:ORLANDO, Fla. -- Outspoken Magic coach Stan Van Gundy unintentionally took a shot at former Knicks center Timofey Mozgov of Russia yesterday during a rant about the Carmelo Anthony blockbuster.
Van Gundy was defending the Knicks' decision to give up all the pieces they did in the trade for Anthony and Chauncey Billups, incredulous that fans, media and the front office nearly blew up the deal by not adding Mozgov, the 7-foot-1 rookie.
"I always look at trades like this: It usually comes down to who gets the best player, in my mind," Van Gundy said before the Knicks' 116-110 loss to the Magic last night. "New York got the two best players in the trade. I love [Danilo] Gallinari, [Raymond] Felton and [Wilson] Chandler. I thought Raymond was playing great.

"But it was a little bit funny to me all the consternation at the end was over Mozgov," Van Gundy added. "No, really. You can't throw him in? The guy's a good young player, but when you're getting Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony? If you're telling me you can't throw in Chandler, or you can't throw in Gallinari, I at least would understand the thought process. But if we don't give up Mozgov, we'll be OK? I was a little taken aback by that one."
The Knicks were initially firm in their refusal to give up the fan favorite Mozgov, according to sources, but realized the Nuggets would have traded Anthony to the Nets had they not ponied up yet another young asset and the lone center on their roster. The Knicks still don't have a 7-footer after signing 6-foot-10 Jared Jeffries and 6-foot-8 Derrick Brown yesterday.
Anthony was willing to sign a contract extension if the Nuggets favored the Nets' deal.
The recent clamor among coaches and executives is how Billups became overshadowed in the deal.
"They got two great veteran players," Van Gundy said. "The guys they gave up were good players. Denver did a good job of getting good players, but it seems to be New York made a great deal. They got the two best players in the trade. There's not too many times you can do that."

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If Mosgov is such a non-factor, then why would Denver hold up the deal because he wasn't included?
Why don't you worry about your own team and just STFU.

Panos wrote:

Berman wrote:ORLANDO, Fla. -- Outspoken Magic coach Stan Van Gundy unintentionally took a shot at former Knicks center Timofey Mozgov of Russia yesterday during a rant about the Carmelo Anthony blockbuster.
Van Gundy was defending the Knicks' decision to give up all the pieces they did in the trade for Anthony and Chauncey Billups, incredulous that fans, media and the front office nearly blew up the deal by not adding Mozgov, the 7-foot-1 rookie.
"I always look at trades like this: It usually comes down to who gets the best player, in my mind," Van Gundy said before the Knicks' 116-110 loss to the Magic last night. "New York got the two best players in the trade. I love [Danilo] Gallinari, [Raymond] Felton and [Wilson] Chandler. I thought Raymond was playing great.

"But it was a little bit funny to me all the consternation at the end was over Mozgov," Van Gundy added. "No, really. You can't throw him in? The guy's a good young player, but when you're getting Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony? If you're telling me you can't throw in Chandler, or you can't throw in Gallinari, I at least would understand the thought process. But if we don't give up Mozgov, we'll be OK? I was a little taken aback by that one."
The Knicks were initially firm in their refusal to give up the fan favorite Mozgov, according to sources, but realized the Nuggets would have traded Anthony to the Nets had they not ponied up yet another young asset and the lone center on their roster. The Knicks still don't have a 7-footer after signing 6-foot-10 Jared Jeffries and 6-foot-8 Derrick Brown yesterday.
Anthony was willing to sign a contract extension if the Nuggets favored the Nets' deal.
The recent clamor among coaches and executives is how Billups became overshadowed in the deal.
"They got two great veteran players," Van Gundy said. "The guys they gave up were good players. Denver did a good job of getting good players, but it seems to be New York made a great deal. They got the two best players in the trade. There's not too many times you can do that."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/van_gundy_amazed_mozgov_was_holdup_imkcMNnfr0HdkeumcqVnpK#ixzz1FSP2RVqm

If Mosgov is such a non-factor, then why would Denver hold up the deal because he wasn't included?
Why don't you worry about your own team and just STFU.

Yup Yup.

Panos wrote:

Berman wrote:ORLANDO, Fla. -- Outspoken Magic coach Stan Van Gundy unintentionally took a shot at former Knicks center Timofey Mozgov of Russia yesterday during a rant about the Carmelo Anthony blockbuster.
Van Gundy was defending the Knicks' decision to give up all the pieces they did in the trade for Anthony and Chauncey Billups, incredulous that fans, media and the front office nearly blew up the deal by not adding Mozgov, the 7-foot-1 rookie.
"I always look at trades like this: It usually comes down to who gets the best player, in my mind," Van Gundy said before the Knicks' 116-110 loss to the Magic last night. "New York got the two best players in the trade. I love [Danilo] Gallinari, [Raymond] Felton and [Wilson] Chandler. I thought Raymond was playing great.

"But it was a little bit funny to me all the consternation at the end was over Mozgov," Van Gundy added. "No, really. You can't throw him in? The guy's a good young player, but when you're getting Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony? If you're telling me you can't throw in Chandler, or you can't throw in Gallinari, I at least would understand the thought process. But if we don't give up Mozgov, we'll be OK? I was a little taken aback by that one."
The Knicks were initially firm in their refusal to give up the fan favorite Mozgov, according to sources, but realized the Nuggets would have traded Anthony to the Nets had they not ponied up yet another young asset and the lone center on their roster. The Knicks still don't have a 7-footer after signing 6-foot-10 Jared Jeffries and 6-foot-8 Derrick Brown yesterday.
Anthony was willing to sign a contract extension if the Nuggets favored the Nets' deal.
The recent clamor among coaches and executives is how Billups became overshadowed in the deal.
"They got two great veteran players," Van Gundy said. "The guys they gave up were good players. Denver did a good job of getting good players, but it seems to be New York made a great deal. They got the two best players in the trade. There's not too many times you can do that."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/van_gundy_amazed_mozgov_was_holdup_imkcMNnfr0HdkeumcqVnpK#ixzz1FSP2RVqm

If Mosgov is such a non-factor, then why would Denver hold up the deal because he wasn't included?
Why don't you worry about your own team and just STFU.

Stan is right on the money. If the Knicks ultimately had declined trade simply because they didn't want to lose Mozgov and Melo entertained the thought of signing elsewhere this offseason, this would have been one of the biggest blunders in NBA history.

Panos wrote:

Berman wrote:ORLANDO, Fla. -- Outspoken Magic coach Stan Van Gundy unintentionally took a shot at former Knicks center Timofey Mozgov of Russia yesterday during a rant about the Carmelo Anthony blockbuster.
Van Gundy was defending the Knicks' decision to give up all the pieces they did in the trade for Anthony and Chauncey Billups, incredulous that fans, media and the front office nearly blew up the deal by not adding Mozgov, the 7-foot-1 rookie.
"I always look at trades like this: It usually comes down to who gets the best player, in my mind," Van Gundy said before the Knicks' 116-110 loss to the Magic last night. "New York got the two best players in the trade. I love [Danilo] Gallinari, [Raymond] Felton and [Wilson] Chandler. I thought Raymond was playing great.

"But it was a little bit funny to me all the consternation at the end was over Mozgov," Van Gundy added. "No, really. You can't throw him in? The guy's a good young player, but when you're getting Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony? If you're telling me you can't throw in Chandler, or you can't throw in Gallinari, I at least would understand the thought process. But if we don't give up Mozgov, we'll be OK? I was a little taken aback by that one."
The Knicks were initially firm in their refusal to give up the fan favorite Mozgov, according to sources, but realized the Nuggets would have traded Anthony to the Nets had they not ponied up yet another young asset and the lone center on their roster. The Knicks still don't have a 7-footer after signing 6-foot-10 Jared Jeffries and 6-foot-8 Derrick Brown yesterday.
Anthony was willing to sign a contract extension if the Nuggets favored the Nets' deal.
The recent clamor among coaches and executives is how Billups became overshadowed in the deal.
"They got two great veteran players," Van Gundy said. "The guys they gave up were good players. Denver did a good job of getting good players, but it seems to be New York made a great deal. They got the two best players in the trade. There's not too many times you can do that."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/van_gundy_amazed_mozgov_was_holdup_imkcMNnfr0HdkeumcqVnpK#ixzz1FSP2RVqm

If Mosgov is such a non-factor, then why would Denver hold up the deal because he wasn't included?
Why don't you worry about your own team and just STFU.

because they could get more. mozgov has potential. that's the reason.

according to nbatv most nba coaches felt the same way about having mozgov being a holdup, as svg stated.

he COULD be good, that's the point. they traded for some more potential, knew the knicks would prob be willing to do it, and that's how it is.

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Finestrg wrote:

LandarryFieldsForever wrote:
Stan is right on the money. If the Knicks ultimately had declined trade simply because they didn't want to lose Mozgov and Melo entertained the thought of signing elsewhere this offseason, this would have been one of the biggest blunders in NBA history.

Agreed..No way you let Mozgov hold up that deal..SVG was correct in what he said.

I think whether it's a big blunder remains to be seen. You saw flashes of what Mozgov could do, and have you seen the Nuggets play recently? They seem very cohesive pretty early.

I have seen highlights of the Nuggets play and Felton/Gallo/Chandler look good. But I've also seen they aren't really letting Mozgov on the court. 4 games and 3 DNP-CDs for him. I have no doubt he can be a servicable center down the road but not much beyond that. Servicable centers shouldn't stop you from guaranteeing the services of Carmelo Anthony.