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MaseInYourFace
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2/4/2004  1:59 AM
Can you post the latest Ford story with the headline "Are the NBA firesale's about to begin?"
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2/4/2004  3:28 AM
Celtics are latest suitor for Brent Barry

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Brent Barry
Sonics
Celtics Feb. 3 - According to several newspaper accounts, the Celtics are the latest team to show interest in Brent Barry -- offering Chris Mills' expiring contract in return. The Tacoma News Tribune reported over the weekend that the Sonics were interested in re-signing Barry, but so far, the Sonics are willing to give Barry only a two-year contract. A trade for Mills is significantly less than what the Sonics were hoping to get in return, but given Barry's uncertain status (he's out five weeks with a broken finger) and future contract demands when he hits free agency this summer (reportedly 4 years, $23 million), there may not be anything better out there.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Rasheed Wallace
Blazers
Warriors
Mavericks
Knicks
Hawks
Cavs
Rockets
Nets Feb. 3 - The San Francisco Chronicle and the Oregonian reported on Thursday that the Blazers and Warriors are involved in talks that would send 'Sheed to Golden State for Nick Van Exel and Erick Dampier. However, sources told ESPN Insider that so far the Blazers are balking -- or more accurately -- waiting patiently to see if a better deal comes along. The move is an obvious cap-cutting attempt by the Warriors that could leave them around $20 million in cap room next season.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Nick Van Exel
Warriors
Blazers Jan. 30 - Van Exel's agent, Tony Dutt, put the odds at 60-40 that Van Exel will be moved before Feb. 19 trade deadline. "My gut feeling is that they're going to try to make a deal that makes sense for Nick and makes sense for them," Dutt told the San Francisco Chronicle. Dutt is in Houston right now with Van Exel, who left the team early this week to deal with a "family matter." According to the Chronicle, Warriors GM Garry St. Jean and Warriors president Robert Rowell are believed to have met with the Blazers' Nash on Saturday. Dutt told the paper that "there is no question" the Blazers were one of the teams talking trade with the Warriors.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Dale Davis
Blazers
Raptors
Mavs Jan. 30 - Davis has been a huge problem in Portland of late, and the Blazers are eager to move him. The problem has been the inability to get a big man in exchange. If the Blazers can land Erick Dampier in a trade, the team would be free to move Davis to the highest bidder. The Raptors and Mavericks have shown the most interest in Davis, and if the Blazers can get back a contract that expires after next season and a prospect, they'll pull the trigger.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Cavs
Knicks
Mavericks
Blazers Jan. 30 - Is Zydrunas off the block? With so many teams in need of a big man, Ilgauskas has been a pretty hot commodity. The Mavs (for Antawn Jamison), Knicks (for Keith Van Horn and Frank Williams) and Blazers (for Rasheed Wallace) have all tried to pry Ilgauskas away, but so far GM Jim Paxson isn't biting.

For the second time in as many weeks the Cavs reiterated that Ilgauskas is no longer on the trading block. "We are where we're going to be," coach Paul Silas told the News Herald. "(That won't change) unless something crazy comes about. I never say never. But, basically, we're not looking to do anything. We're settled in. Everyone is playing well. It's coming together."

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Jamal Crawford
Bulls
Clippers
Knicks Jan. 29 - The Bulls and Clippers began discussions about a week ago on a way to get big man Melvin Ely to Chicago. Since then, however, talk of a larger Bulls-Clippers swap has taken hold. Bulls GM John Paxson likes Clippers' combo guard Marko Jaric and has tried to get him worked into the deal. The Clippers are balking unless the Bulls throw in their combo guard, Jamal Crawford.

Can the two sides make a deal? If the Clippers were willing to substitute local product Quentin Richardson for Jaric, the Bulls would give up Crawford in a heartbeat. However, it's very unlikely that the Clippers would do that, even with the possibility of landing Kobe Bryant to replace Richardson this summer. More realistically, Ely, Jaric and Keyon Dooling for Fizer and Crawford works salary-wise and would address the needs of both clubs.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Shandon Anderson
Knicks
??? Jan. 29 - How desperate is Isiah Thomas to trade Shandon Anderson? According to Newsday, Thomas has tried to pawn him off on the Blazers (for Ruben Patterson, a convicted felon), the Mavericks (for Tariq Abdul-Wahad who basically can't play) and the Raptors (for Lamond Murray).

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Juwan Howard
Magic
T-Wolves
Cavaliers
Raptors
Sonics
Nuggets
Pistons Jan. 26 - GM John Gabriel has been shopping Howard, along with swingman Gordan Giricek, since mid December. According to the Orlando Sentinel, the Magic may be interested in swapping Howard for T-Wolves center Michael Olowokandi.

The Chicago Tribune reported that Jalen Rose has been pushing the Raptors to make a trade for Howard. The Cavs, Sonics, Nuggets and Pistons have also reportedly shown interest.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Melvin Ely
Clippers
Bulls Jan. 26 - The O.C. Register reported Friday the Clippers were shopping little-used power forward Melvin Ely, who's mired on the bench behind Elton Brand, Chris Wilcox, Chris Kaman and Peja Drobjnak. "It's hard to get all the minutes around at that position," coach Mike Dunleavy said. "We have Brand, we have Kaman, Wilcox and Drobnjak. On a given night, you're only going to play three, maybe four guys."

The Chicago Tribune reported Monday the Bulls might be interested in an Ely-for-Marcus Fizer swap. Fizer is in the last year of his contract, which would allow the Clippers to get further under the cap this summer to make a run at Kobe Bryant.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Eddy Curry
Bulls
Mavs
Sonics
Blazers
Jan. 21 - On Tuesday Insider first reported that Bulls GM John Paxson had recently dangled Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler in trade discussions. While sources claimed that Paxson was in no way giving the Baby Bulls away, the fact that the two were no longer untouchable was significant. Paxson essentially confirmed the story in Wednesday's editions of the Chicago Sun-Times. "I played with one guy who was untouchable or untradeable," Paxson said of Michael Jordan. "There are maybe a handful of guys in the league right now who fit in that category. The fact we're 12-29 answers whether any of our guys are untouchable."

While Paxson said he's not inclined to deal Curry or Chandler, he's got to start looking at the opportunities. "I'm disappointed, and I know our fans are disappointed," Paxson said. "But I can't afford to panic. When you look at our two big, young kids, it's hard to make an argument to give up on them. They're still in their infancy in this league. . . I'm not panicking. But I'm not going to be super-cautious, either. You just have to believe that what you do will significantly help your team."

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Keith Van Horn
Knicks
Blazers?
Cavs? Jan. 20 - It sure sounds like Keith Van Horn's days in New York are numbered. Isiah Thomas keeps talking about landing an athletic forward to run with Stephon Marbury -- a not so subtle dig at Van Horn. The question is whether Thomas can get someone to take on the last two years, and $30 million of Van Horn's contract. Thomas has tried to convince Portland and Cleveland to take him, to no avail. Is there another team out there that wants Van Horn? Conventional wisdom says no.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Eric Snow
Sixers
??? Jan. 20 - The Sixers quietly have been exploring a Snow trade for the last few weeks, but they aren't finding any takers. While a number of teams love him as a player, the five years remaining on his contract are a killer.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Ron Mercer
Spurs
Pistons Jan. 20 - The Spurs have been trying to move Mercer for about a month. The Pistons have been trying to get him from San Antonio, but don't have anything the Spurs want in return. The two teams have tried to find a third team to make something happen, but so far, nothing has worked out.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Antawn Jamison
Mavericks
Blazers
Cavaliers Jan. 19 - He's safe for now. Trade talks with the Blazers broke off over the weekend, meaning Jamison can breathe a little easier for now. The Cavs also have shown some interest, and the Mavs have pursued Zydrunas Ilgauskas in the past, but Mavs owner Mark Cuban continues to claim he's happy with the team and isn't inclined to make a trade.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Hawks
Cavs
Blazers
Sonics
Jazz
Warriors? Jan. 19 - The interest in Abdur-Rahim around the league is enormous. The Akron Beacon Journal reported Sunday that Abdur-Rahim wants out and the Cavs wouldn't mind taking him off the Hawks' hands. The New York Post reported the Blazers are trying to send Rasheed Wallace to Atlanta for Abdur-Rahim and Chris Crawford.

The question is whether the Hawks actually will trade him. Don't count on it, unless two things happen. One, the sale of the team finally is approved by the league sometime in January. And two, the Hawks find takers for Theo Ratliff and Jason Terry. If they can get those guys off the books, trading Abdur-Rahim gives them lots of cap flexibility.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Tracy McGrady
Magic
Blazers Jan. 15 - The Orlando Sentinel reports the Blazers called the Magic about a McGrady-for-Rasheed Wallace swap. GM John Gabriel denied McGrady was on the block. McGrady's response to the rumor? "I don't believe any of that, but I did hear the Rasheed rumor," McGrady said. "I think there would be a lot of disappointed Orlando fans if that happened." No kidding.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Marcus Camby
Nuggets
Knicks Jan. 15 - Isiah Thomas called Nuggets GM Kiki Vandeweghe over the weekend about Camby's availability but reportedly was shut down. The Nuggets are leaning toward keeping Camby around, given their success in the West this year. That doesn't mean Camby isn't available at the right price, but the Knicks have nothing the Nuggets really want.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Jason Terry
Hawks
Blazers?
Pacers? Jan. 15 - Terry has been pushing Hawks management to make a trade, even if he has to be included in it. Plenty of teams are interested, but Terry is a base-year compensation player, making a one-for-one swap virtually impossible. Unless he's paired up with someone like Theo Ratliff or Shareef Abdur-Rahim in a blockbuster-type trade, Terry's going to have to ride out the storm in Atlanta.

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Theo Ratliff
Hawks
Blazers
Grizzlies
Bucks?
Celtics? Jan. 15 - Ratliff's ongoing feud with coach Terry Stotts has put him in the crosshairs. There's talk the Blazers want Ratliff and would be willing to swap Rasheed Wallace for him if the Hawks also included Terry. Terry is a base-year player, which makes that trade more difficult, but it is doable with the right add-ons.

The Grizzlies also have interest in Ratliff, but they're running out of ammo to get him. A combo of Stromile Swift, Jake Tsakalidis and Shane Battier might be enough, but is the injury-prone Ratliff really worth that price?
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2/4/2004  3:46 AM
seems as I suspected-nothing doing for the knicks.

I did love this:

Shandon Anderson
Knicks
??? Jan. 29 - How desperate is Isiah Thomas to trade Shandon Anderson? According to Newsday, Thomas has tried to pawn him off on the Blazers (for Ruben Patterson, a convicted felon), the Mavericks (for Tariq Abdul-Wahad who basically can't play) and the Raptors (for Lamond Murray).

haha


how many good games does KVH need to do to get some job security? he's pulling down boards, scored 30 the other night, playing over 40 minutes a game. why isn't the 5 spot being looked at getting upgraded? mutumbo is like a dried up dead tree, i hear the squeaks everytime he does his slow baby hook.

its a shame we didn't get darius, thats the type of guy that really can run and would be able to thrive in msg.

[Edited by - MaseInYourFace on 02/04/2004 03:52:10]
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2/4/2004  8:49 AM
KVH & Frank for Ilgaukus would be a disaster once he gets injured. Plus he's not even all that good. The guy who wrote this is smoking the pipe.
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2/4/2004  9:25 AM
I dont get it... all those rumors are about a month old
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2/4/2004  11:16 AM
Don't worry too much about Darius Miles. IF he's healthy, DerMarr Johnson probably has nearly as much upside as Miles... that said, both would have trouble cracking our rotation for meaningful minutes, though Miles might've been a better fit with his NBA experience of playing some PF (in spite of his rail thin body).

I like Shandon for Patterson--- Patterson is a little younger (I think) and a little bigger... and has the strength and length to defend against some PFs.

Keep in mind that jail time isn't so bad--- Marbury spent some time in jail.
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2/4/2004  11:20 AM
yeah marbury was arrested for a DUI.
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Hawks, Bulls, Warriors ready to unload?

By Chad Ford
NBA Insider
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Updated: February 3
11:13 AM ET

Sixteen days and counting until the NBA trade deadline, and after months of unprecedented high-profile wheeling and dealing, the phones suddenly have gone quiet.

Huh?

"It's weird, but the calls have really tapered down into a trickle," one GM told Insider. "Usually now is the time when everything heats up, but so many deals have already been done, maybe there aren't that many left that make much sense."

Insider talked with several league executives who were reporting the same thing -- the sound of silence. Some believe the parity in the league right now is starting to put a kibosh on things. Others think we're just in the calm before the storm. When GMs get together in Los Angeles next week before the All-Star Game, things will begin heating up again.

"There are so many teams that believe they have a shot at the playoffs," another league executive told Insider, "that very few are willing to give up a valuable asset or two. Everyone is looking for another team's fire sale. With a few exceptions, most teams aren't ready to write off the season yet."

The few exceptions? Read on ...

2004 Fire Sales

# Atlanta Hawks: Everyone agrees the folks in Atlanta are ready to pull the plug. The holdup has been the never-ending approval process for the sale of the team. Time Warner recently issued a statement claiming all of the details have been worked out between the two sides. The new owners claim they are just waiting for approval from the Board of Governors. That could take place next week in Los Angeles.


Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Power Forward
Atlanta Hawks
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2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
49 19.7 9.3 2.3 .483 .883

The new owners, led by Boston businessman Steve Belkin, know they have several coveted assets -- Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Theo Ratliff and Jason Terry -- and have been figuring out the best way to "deploy them," as one Hawks source told Insider.

A number of teams have their eyes on those three, with the Hawks looking for young prospects, draft picks and cap room in return.

# Chicago Bulls: GM John Paxson's patience is just about gone. The Bulls have lost 11 of their last 12, and it has become pretty clear that head coach Scott Skiles isn't getting through to the Baby Bulls.

One sequence in Monday night's loss to the Sonics summed up the Bulls' problems. Jamal Crawford was awesome offensively, dropping 31 points on the Sonics in his hometown. At one point during the third quarter, Crawford threw himself a pass off the backboard, caught the rebound and slammed the ball over a defender, drawing a foul.

Crawford hit the free throw, but while he was celebrating, Ray Allen, the man Crawford was supposed to be guarding, ran down the court and nailed a 3-pointer.


Jamal Crawford
Shooting Guard
Chicago Bulls
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2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
47 17.2 3.3 5.5 .393 .836

Afterward, a flabbergasted Skiles didn't know what to think. "Jamal was very good offensively," Skiles told the Chicago Tribune. "Defensively, he wasn't there."

Only five teams give up more points than the Bulls. Unfortunately for Chicago, all five are also in the top 10 in scoring. The Bulls rank 21st in that department, which goes a long way toward explaining their miserable record.

Paxson wants to remake the team in his (and Skiles') gritty image, which means he's going to have to dump players like Crawford and Curry, once believed to be the building blocks of the team.

The Bulls have had some discussion about shipping Crawford and Marcus Fizer to the Clippers for Marko Jaric and Melvin Ely. So far there hasn't been anything close on a Curry trade, although the Grizzlies in particular would love to get their hands on him.

# Golden State Warriors: The goal now, after the ridiculous preseason prediction of the playoffs, is to get well under the salary cap for the summer of 2004. To do it, they've got to move Nick Van Exel off the books. To entice teams to take on the final year and $11.8 million of Van Exel's deal, they're willing to give up Erick Dampier, arguably the third-best center in the league this season.

The talk has centered around a Warriors-Blazers swap for Rasheed Wallace. That would clear roughly $17 million off Golden State's books this summer and put the Warriors in a position to make a run at Kobe Bryant. So far, however, the Blazers are balking -- or, more accurately, waiting patiently to see if a better deal comes along.


Erick Dampier
Center
Golden State Warriors
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2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
46 12.0 11.6 0.7 .511 .638

The Blazers won't be the only team interested in Dampier. The Grizzlies made a strong run at him last summer and would likely be willing to swallow Van Exel's contract to get something done. What's more difficult is finding a deal that makes sense for Golden State. Combined, Van Exel and Dampier earn roughly $18.5 million this season. The Grizzlies don't have enough expiring salaries to make something work, though they could send a number of assets (Stromile Swift, Earl Watson, Shane Battier) along with a contract that expires in 2005 (like Bo Outlaw or Bonzi Wells) to make the deal make some sense for the Warriors.

Unfortunately for the Warriors, the same holds true for almost every other team. With the exception of a team like the Suns, Nuggets or Jazz (who are unwilling to jeopardize their cap space for the summer), no one has enough expiring contracts to make a deal that makes sense for Golden State.

# Orlando Magic: If the player's name isn't Tracy McGrady, he's expendable in Orlando right now. The problem is there's nothing that is going to turn the Magic into contenders overnight or give them the cap space they need to make a run at a top free agent. Grant Hill and McGrady just take up too much room for that to happen.

Talk of trading Juwan Howard, Gordan Giricek, Tyronn Lue and Steven Hunter is all well and good, but what will it get them? Right now the best answer the Magic have been able to come up with is an injured Michael Olowokandi.

Now you know why John Gabriel's days in Orlando appear to be coming to an end.

# Philadelphia 76ers: The Sixers have been working the phones desperately trying to make something happen. Philadelphia's season has been a huge disappointment. Though they're just one-and-a-half games out of the eighth playoff spot in the East, the Sixers have been playing with zero passion and look too old to be a real contender again. That means everyone, including Allen Iverson and Eric Snow, are on the block if the team can get back value and cap flexibility in return.

"There's been a lot of interest in some of our young guys that have played well," Sixers GM Billy King told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "There's been a lot of interest in some of our veteran guys. It's just trying to find a solution that makes sense."

So far King, who has had no problems making trades in the past, is striking out.

"You have teams that are trying to make the playoffs," King said. "You have teams that are trying to preserve cap room. You have teams that are trying not to pay a tax. There's a lot more going into it probably this year than ever before. Everybody in the East thinks they still have a shot, so nobody really wants to do anything."

Around the League

# Francis not on the block . . .yet: Rumors that the Rockets were ready to ship Steve Francis out of town got a huge boost on Monday when coach Jeff Van Gundy revealed that Francis intentionally missed a team flight to Phoenix so that he could attend the Super Bowl in Houston. However, his agent, Jeff Fried, claimed that Francis wasn't at the Super Bowl but instead stayed in Houston to attend "to an urgent personal family matter."


Steve Francis
Point Guard
Houston Rockets
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2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
46 16.6 5.6 5.9 .395 .750

Friend's statement sent Van Gundy through the roof. "I talked to Steve," Van Gundy told the Houston Chronicle. "He was in the parking lot of the Super Bowl. We had a long discussion about him thinking it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and me talking about the commitment to the team.

"I know what the truth is. Steve knows what the truth is. Everyone involved knows what the truth is. That's up to them if they want to try to spin it a certain way. Everyone knows what happened. What agents say doesn't have any bearing.

"I talked to him last night. He disagreed with the (suspension) decision vehemently. He just thinks it was the wrong decision."

This is just the latest incident for Francis, who has struggled to adapt to Van Gundy's more conservative inside-out offense. Francis' numbers are at all-time lows and he's been complaining about how the team uses him. Van Gundy has been equally unhappy with what he perceives as selfish play by Francis. That's inspired a host of published rumors that Francis could be on his way out of Houston.

The problem with the rumors is that Francis is a base-year player this season. Even though he earns roughly $11 million, his team could take back only $5.5 million in return if he were traded. That makes him virtually impossible to trade unless he's sent to a team with cap room or a much larger, multi-team trade were to go down.

Furthermore, Van Gundy insists that he wants Francis to remain a Rocket for a long time.

"Everyone involved -- me and him, in particular -- knows exactly what happened, and that's it," Van Gundy said. "In those situations, it is never an easy conversation. He was upset about my decision about his decision. It's not the first time a coach and player had a disagreement about decision-making, and it won't be the last.

"When you get a situation like this, you deal with it, you say you were wrong, and you move on. Steve has obviously been our best player. He's a reason I came (to Houston). There's not a problem between me and him."

Still, if the Rockets don't find a way to get Francis and Yao Ming to co-exist, don't be shocked if the Rockets at least explore trade options for Francis when his base-year status expires on August 26th. Francis is still considered one of the most talented combo guards in the league, and a combo of Francis and Cuttino Mobley could land the Rockets a more traditional point guard and a bigger sharp-shooting two guard in return.

# Sonics struggling with Barry decision: Brent Barry's broken finger couldn't have come at a more inopportune time. The Sonics were reportedly in the throes of deciding whether to give Barry a multi-year contract extension or trading him to a team that could give them some value in return. According to the Tacoma Tribune, the Sonics had discussed offering a two-year, $10 million extension to Barry with his agent, Arn Tellam. According to the same report, Barry, who is 31, is looking for a four-year, $23 million deal in return.

That's probably too rich for the Sonics blood . . . meaning ultimately the decision might have been made to trade him instead of losing him for nothing this summer. Barry's injury, however, complicates things. He's no longer able to help the Sonics in their playoff run and Antonio Daniels has stepped in and been great. But has Barry's value taken a major hit because he's out the next five weeks?

According to several newspaper accounts, the Celtics are the latest team to show interest in Barry -- offering Chris Mills' expiring contract in return. That's significantly less than what the Sonics were hoping to get in return, but given Barry's uncertain status and future contract demands, there may not be anything better out there. If that's true, they're probably better off holding onto him.

# What happened to Frank Williams? Wasn't it just a month ago that new Knicks president Isiah Thomas was calling new starting point guard Frank Williams the next Walt Frazier? Since then, Thomas has acquired Stephon Marbury, Moochie Norris and Penny Hardaway and Williams has gone from point guard of the future to a coach's DNP.

Thomas is still reportedly high on Williams (he turned down a Williams-and-Othella Harrington-for-Darius Miles deal a few weeks ago) but new head coach Lenny Wilkens obviously isn't. That has Williams now pining for something, anything, to happen.

Claiming he's ready to "move or stay," Williams wants an explanation. "I wish something would happen," he told reporters. "I wish something would happen real soon."

Williams got his wish on Monday when he met with Wilkens. He was then, however, suddenly sent home with a "sinus infection." Wilkens told the N.Y. Post later that day that he still favored Norris as his back-up because he's a better ball handler.

Thomas, on the other hand, claims that he's still looking at more trades. "It's a simple answer and solution if you want to stay here - play better. The status quo when I came in, it wasn't a very good team. If you're telling me four weeks [later] status quo was acceptable, that was totally unacceptable to me."

* Francis suspended for one game
Jonathan Feigen / Houston Chronicle
* Francis lets teammates down with immature act
Fran Blinebury / Houston Chronicle
* SuperSonics, Barry headed toward contract impasse
Frank Hughes / Tacoma News Tribune
* C's may go after Barry
Steve Bulpett / Boston Herald
* Frankly, Williams feels the pinch
Frank Isola / New York Daily News
* Isiah Has More Moves In Mind
Marc Berman / New York Post


Peep Show

By Chad Ford
NBA Insider
Send an Email to Chad Ford Tuesday, February 3
Updated: February 3
8:01 AM ET


Stackhouse
Washington Wizards: After missing only 42 games in is first seven years of NBA play, Jerry Stackhouse was a bit nervous about returning to action after missing 45 games this year alone. "I never really get nervous or anxious about basketball and I was nervous," he told the Washington Post. "I didn't know what to expect from not being on the floor for a long time. Things I normally do, which I react to, I thought about a little bit . . . It's been difficult for me because if I had this happen to me if I was a third- or fourth-year player, my game wouldn't be where it's at," Stackhouse said Friday after a light workout. "But now I feel like I'm missing out on being at the top of my game because I've taken a year out of my prime. I feel like I'm just starting to hit my stride to know the game, to know what I can do to out-think a lot of the players on the floor."

Dallas Mavericks: It seems like the easiest way to beat the Mavs these days is to let them have the lead. "We're an outside-inside team, and we don't have a lot of really great post players," coach Don Nelson said in the Dallas Morning News. "And when the jump shots aren't going and our defense is not strong, that's exactly what you're looking at - lost leads. When we have some cold spells, we're vulnerable." And it's not just the coach talking. "It's more of a mental thing for us," Michael Finley said. "When we get big leads, we kind of forget how we got them. We can't relax on defense. If anything, you want to take up your defensive intensity because the other team knows they have a big hole to get out of so they become even more aggressive."

Boston Celtics: Paul Pierce and the Celtics seem to be going from the frying pan into the fire on a weekly basis. "It definitely humbles you," Pierce said in the Boston Herald. "It's definitely something that can bring out the best or the worst in you. I have a lot of challenges I'm facing. I could use all of these things as an excuse for not getting the job done, but I'm not going to do that. This has probably been the toughest week there has been on me, but I just have to move on from it." Of course, his latest struggle has been the resignation of coach Jim O'Brien. "It was just draining on me," he said. "I was definitely drained by it. There were a lot of things I expected after the trades and our off-court situations. But (O'Brien's resignation) is something I wasn't prepared for. I let it affect me."


Williams
Chicago Bulls: Jay Williams nearly lost his life on a motorcycle last summer, so the $4.7 million he forfeited after the Bulls bought out the remaining $7.7 million on his contract for $3 million this week is the easy part. "No question it's more than fair," agent Bill Duffy said in the Chicago Sun Times. "Usually when you cut a deal, it hurts both parties, but this is great for both parties." The Bulls are said to be looking for a job within the organization for Williams to fill until he can return to play.

Denver Nuggets: Denver fans are wishing David Stern had a vote for Rookie of the Year. "When it's all said and done, you're ultimately judged on whether you've turned your team into a winner," Stern told the Denver Post. "I think Carmelo and (Cleveland rookie guard) LeBron (James) have improved their teams' records dramatically, but I think Carmelo is off to a faster start (because of his team)." They might also wish Stern had a vote for Executive of the Year. "I actually think that building through the draft is the easiest way to go, and having salaries low enough where you can add free agents is intelligent management," Stern said. "I think Kiki is a good (general) manager and a good judge of talent. You have to be patient. He took advantage of a poor team to get a good draft pick, that sly old fox."

Philadelphia 76ers: Jerry Stackhouse didn't work. Neither did Keith Van Horn. So should we really be surprised about Allen Iverson's latest sidekick? "It's the same way it's been, even with Glenn [Robinson]," Iverson said in the Philadelphia Daily News. "The feeling was, if we had Glenn on the floor, it would get a lot easier. But teams play me the same way, just pay more attention to him."

* A Steppingstone for Stackhouse
Steve Wyche / Washington Post
* Mavs look for closure with leads on the line
Eddie Sefko / Dallas Morning News
* Pierce rolls with punches: Changes keep piling up
Mark Murphy / Boston Herald
* Bulls settle Williams' contract
Lacy J. Banks / Chicago Sun-Times
* Commissioner lauds Vandeweghe, Anthony
Marc J. Spears / Denver Post
* Iverson, Robinson looking to click
Phil Jasner / Philadelphia Daily News
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2/4/2004  2:38 PM
"he turned down a Williams-and-Othella Harrington-for-Darius Miles deal a few weeks ago"

i wouldv'e done that in a heartbeat. Othella can be replaced by anyone with a similar body type, and frank williams is meaningless now with marbury. Miles is an incredible athlete that plays well over the rim, something the knicks haven't had ever--spreewell included.

Marbury, houston, van horn, miles, kurt thomas (who'd be a fine 5th option)

thats an awesome lineup
Yes! - Marv Albert
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Posted by MaseInYourFace:

"he turned down a Williams-and-Othella Harrington-for-Darius Miles deal a few weeks ago"

i wouldv'e done that in a heartbeat. Othella can be replaced by anyone with a similar body type, and frank williams is meaningless now with marbury. Miles is an incredible athlete that plays well over the rim, something the knicks haven't had ever--spreewell included.

Marbury, houston, van horn, miles, kurt thomas (who'd be a fine 5th option)

thats an awesome lineup
yeah, if we are not going to play Frankie-Baby, we should have just picked up Miles and given him Othella's old minutes
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2/4/2004  3:36 PM
I was kinda disapointed that I didnt see the knicks under Shareef Abdur-Rahim.
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2/4/2004  3:51 PM
Good point Caseloads, unless Isiah has a better deal in the works involving an athletic 4/5.
Darius would've been nice but maybe Demarr can fill that role.

It's a nice option that Van Horn can play the 4, maybe better than the 3, so we can go after either a 3 or 4.

The Knicks can possibly get a low post small forward, who can rebound, like a Al Harrington or Antwoin Jamison.

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Posted by MaTT4281:

I was kinda disapointed that I didnt see the knicks under Shareef Abdur-Rahim.
Man, these guys are bogus half the time. And the other half of the time they are just plain dumb... ESPN, it's for entertainment purposes only... they arent the sports, just the evangalist reporters
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2/4/2004  3:58 PM
The NBA's most overpaid players
By Jeff Merron
Page 2 staff


The All-Star starters are all set, and soon we'll celebrate the NBA's best of the best. So it seems a good time to also make note of some players who don't really earn their paychecks.


We've done this before, but this year we're doing it a little different: the only players eligible for the list are those who haven't missed a significant part (or all) of the season due to injuries.


In other words, they're relatively healthy, their wallets are even healthier, and some owner (or two in some cases) is out a couple of days' interest. Here we go. All salaries are this season's based on best estimates from a variety of sources.


10. Wesley Person, Trail Blazers ($7,700,000)
Lord knows the Blazers can use all the Wesley Persons they can get. Person is a good guy for Portland to have on its roster -- he's a veteran and he won't get into any trouble. But he doesn't add anything, really -- when he's at the tail end of his career, and averaging only six points per game?



Wesley Person can slice and dice -- when he's in the game.
Person's the Blazers' 10th man, playing about 20 minutes a game. But GM John Nash seemed thrilled just to have a guy who he didn't have to bail out of jail in the middle of the night. When Nash traded for Person a few months ago, he said, "His history as a superior perimeter shooter is attractive to us. Equally attractive is the fact that he has a reputation as a real solid citizen and a solid character."


Certainly those qualities are admirable, but are they worth that kind of cash?


9. Eddie Robinson, Bulls ($6,246,960)
Robinson, Chicago's second-highest paid player, makes almost no contribution to the Bulls, one of the worst teams in the NBA. He comes off the bench and puts in three buckets a game, and for this Chicago's committed another $14 million over the next two seasons.


8. Austin Croshere, Pacers ($7,610,000)
The Pacers rewarded Croshere with a hefty contract around the turn of the century, because he had a couple of good seasons. But for the past three years he's been little more than a highly-paid cheerleader while eating up a chunk of salary cap space.


7. Vitaly Potapenko, Calvin Booth and Jerome James, Sonics centers ($15,700,000 combined)
These three guys split center duties for the Sonics, so we decided to add them all up and we came up with this: three big guys making tiny contributions while taking home huge chunks of Seattle payroll.



Vitaly Potapenko, part of Seattle's three-headed "monster" at center.
Potapenko, who at $5.7 million is one of the highest-paid Sonics, averages 4.2 points and 2.8 rebounds. That's when he plays, which is rarely. Booth, who's started more than half Seattle's games, scores 5.4 points and grabs 4.6 rebounds a game, and is right behind Potapenko on the salary list, making $5.4 million. Jerome James uses his 7-foot-1-inch frame to pull down 3.3 rebounds per game. He averages about 5 points. For this he earns about $4.5 million.


The sad thing for Sonics fans is that all three are signed for next season, too -- with Potapenko and Booth slated for salary boosts.


6. Keith Van Horn ($13,500,000) and Anfernee Hardaway ($13,500,000), Knicks
We've grouped these guys together so this wouldn't turn into an all-Knicks list. Van Horn is the essence of mediocrity, paid a superstar's salary. Hardaway, the essence of lost potential, a 32-year-old five years past his prime. Did Layden take spending lessons from Donald "Oooh, that's shiny" Trump?


5. Kelvin Cato, Rockets ($7,344,000)
Now, to be fair, Cato, a 6-foot-11-inch swingman, is 10th in the NBA -- in technical fouls. What's he so mad about? He's starting, but still gets to relax about half the game (avg: 28 minutes per), and even though he averages 6.2 points and 7.7 rebounds, is guaranteed to make more money next year (and the next, too).


Here's the strange thing, though: even though he was picked 15th in the 1997 draft, there's never been any reason to expect more from Cato -- he's in his seventh NBA season, and having, for him, an above-average campaign.



Allan Houston -- a sharpshooter, and that's about it.
4. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cavaliers ($13,350,000)
As my colleague, Mike Munoz, put it, "He must get paid based on Scrabble points in his name." Although Ilgauskas was an All-Star last year, it's kind of hard to imagine why a 7-foot-3-inch guy who can't rebound, is only a so-so shot blocker, isn't a good passer (even for a center) and scores 14 ppg is worth Kobe Bryant/Allen Iverson-style green.


Or, to put it another way: Ilgauskas' salary alone accounts for nearly 30 percent of the Cavs' payroll. He makes about 2 1/2 times the amount of the next highest paid Cav, Eric Williams, but leads the team in only one statistical category, blocked shots.


3. Allan Houston, Knicks ($15,937,500)
Houston, the fifth-highest paid player in the NBA, gets big bucks to do one thing: score points. And this he does, fairly well, leading the Knicks with a 19.5 average. There's no doubt -- Allan's a great shooter who's worth good money. But he's a one-dimensional player -- he doesn't dish and he doesn't rebound well, even for a guard. In other words, Houston shouldn't be getting the mega-superstar bucks.


2. Dikembe Mutombo, Knicks ($17,894,738)
Once upon a time, as you know, Mutombo could play. And he can still play great D on occasion. But that doesn't make up for his tiny contributions elsewhere (6 points and 7 rebounds a game). He's the third-highest paid player in the NBA (the Nets pick up about 3/4 of the tab), but is worth, at most, a few million.



Vin Baker hasn't done nearly enough of this for the Celtics.
1. Vin Baker, Celtics ($12,975,000)
You're not surprised, are you? Seems like just a month or two ago people were talking about Baker's comeback, how he'd lost weight and had been playing like the Vin Baker of -- well, not the mid-1990s, but the late-1990s. But even if he continued, the truth is that Baker would still be on this list -- c'mon, this guy's making more than Tim Duncan? Alcohol problems, 11 points, rehab woes, half-a-dozen rebounds, and what do the fans have to look forward to? Look at this season: his performance has steadily declined. Look at his career: his performance has steadily declined.


Note that Baker doesn't get paid when he's suspended. But he's already made $5.85 million this season.


Also receiving votes:


Juwan Howard, Magic ($4.9 M)
Scot Pollard, Pacers ($5.3 M)
Tim Thomas, Bucks ($11.8M)
Theo Ratliff, Hawks ($10.1M)
Alan Henderson, Hawks ($7.7 million)
Damon Stoudamire, Trail Blazers ($14.4 million)


Thanks to those in ESPN studio production and ESPN

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http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/overpaidnba.html

Check out some of the nonsense in the above ESPN report. First of all, Cato is not a swingman, he's a Center. Allan Houston makes this list but not Shandon Anderson? Not Eisley? Not Damon Stoudy at about $12 Million per? What about Eddie Jones at ~$14 Mil this season? Or Brian Grant at approximately $14 mil this season? What about Monster "Max Salary" Mash(burn) who keeps missing half a season with injuries, pulling down about 12 mil? What about Camby, making some mean cash?

How can they list Keith Van Horn, when he's been putting up serious #'s.

How about Rasheed Wallace, making $17 mil this season, and being outplayed by Zach Randolph, a guy with less talent? If you're making 17 mil, you should be the all-star on your team, hand down. You dont let your team have a 10+ road game losing streak to start the season....
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2/4/2004  4:18 PM
ESPN Insider is an amusing read, but they are usually wrong. Isiah will probably make a deal out of the blue that hasn't been rumored anywhere.
anyone have ESPN.com Insider?

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