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Killa4luv
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2/26/2011  1:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2011  1:58 PM
I'm not one for reinventing the wheel, so I'll quote a poster who I think has done some good work already. I thought his post deserved its own thread. We dont use the D-league and I consider us to be in a desperate situation. We need someone who is 6-11 and up badly!!!
Finestrg wrote:Here's some guys that could immediately address the rebounding problem off the top of my head:

- I'd immediately call up Marcus Cousin, the most promising rebounding/scoring C in the DL at the moment. This is the guy I want the most -- big, skilled, young and just coming into his own now..There could be a nice future here. His 6'11" 255 lb. size, athleticism, rebounding, ability to can mid-range jumpers and overall ability to play both power and finesse would be a huge addition to our frontcourt.

- Call GS up on the phone and see if they're gonna move Troy Murphy or not..Word is they may not now..but get an answer..If they are ask for permission to speak to him about coming here...Shit, if we had any workable assets left I may have traded for this guy at the deadline--that would've insured he wouldn't go to Boston. What else might help Murphy choose us over the Celts is if we tell him that we can offer him regular PT and a starting role at center. Donnie's had him as a player in Indy -- hopefully there's a relationship there. Need to find out right now what GS's plans are for him. If he's available, do whatever you can to add him as long as he's healthy..Very good rebounder and he can shoot the ball.

- It's spilled milk a little bit, but come on, we should've reached out to Jeff Adrien weeks ago and told him how much we wanted to add him to the mix here..I'd be willing to bet that never happened. You think he would've liked playing for the Knicks at the Garden than in GS?? GS got him so that's that..Big loss for us. No longer an option but I have to mention him here because he's just a huge missed opportunity for us.

- DL C Courtney Sims is the 2nd best C left in the DL right now. Danny Ainge already grabbed Chris Johnson outta the NBDL, a nice move--Looks like Doc's gonna play him too..He'll help them. We should've been very much involved for his services. At least Sims is still available.

- Sean Williams looks a lot better than when the Nets had him..Looks like he's taken the DL experience serious. Give this guy a shot as a shot-blocker/rebounder. Why the F not?? Looks like his scoring may be improved as well..He was putting the ball on the floor a little bit in the NBDL all-star game..I don't remember him being able to do that.

- Joe Alexander like Sean Williams looks improved from his time in the NBA. Doesn't have true big man height (he's more of a big 3 that's been playing 4 in the DL), but he's sneaky athletic, he can shoot/score and he's been a very good rebounder this year in the DL.

- Bring back Earl Barron. It's obvious they like him..What the hell are they waiting for? If this is the guy they really want, they should've gotten him weeks ago..WTF. Why wait?

- Not sure what Dwayne Jones is up to...Dude led the DL in rebounding last year at near 16 rpg..I couldn't care less that he can't really score (neither can Turiaf and Jones is probably better offensively than Ronny)..Bottom line is he can grab rebounds, that's his specialty..That's enough for me..If he's been keeping himself in shape, I'm interested.

- Give Shelden Williams a chance..Let him prove that he can't help in this dept. We need to see it...Mike should want to see it.

- What the hell happened with our interest in Vernon Goodridge? I thought they loved this guy? Why the F wasn't he added weeks ago? There are guys that stand out more in the DL but F it, if they think he can help

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2/26/2011  2:34 PM
You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.
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2/26/2011  2:43 PM
AnubisADL wrote:You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.

i rather give those SCRUBS minutes then watch Shawne Williams and Bill Walker play No D and shoot up 3s

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2/26/2011  2:44 PM
Elite wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.

i rather give those SCRUBS minutes then watch Shawne Williams and Bill Walker play No D and shoot up 3s

Yes.

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2/26/2011  2:50 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Elite wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.

i rather give those SCRUBS minutes then watch Shawne Williams and Bill Walker play No D and shoot up 3s

Yes.

If one of those scrubs (esp, Sims, Jones) was on the roster last night and someone put a gun to MDA's head and forces him to play them for 15 mins, we probably win the game. All we needed was a couple of stops on D (which also includes securing a rebound)and game over.

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2/26/2011  4:33 PM
AnubisADL wrote:You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.

They may be scrubs, but they are TALL scrubs! A 7'2" gummy bear is better than anything we have in the middle right now!

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2/26/2011  4:35 PM
Elite wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.

i rather give those SCRUBS minutes then watch Shawne Williams and Bill Walker play No D and shoot up 3s

If Azubuike is ready to go and Brewer is given a chance, I'd even buy Mason and Walker out and give a chance at all this scrubs!!

In Scrubs We Trust!

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2/26/2011  5:00 PM
Uptown wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Elite wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.

i rather give those SCRUBS minutes then watch Shawne Williams and Bill Walker play No D and shoot up 3s

Yes.

If one of those scrubs (esp, Sims, Jones) was on the roster last night and someone put a gun to MDA's head and forces him to play them for 15 mins, we probably win the game. All we needed was a couple of stops on D (which also includes securing a rebound)and game over.

Agreed. I was at the game and I couldn't believe how poorly Amare was rebounding. There were some boards he didn't even need to jump to get that Cleveland got because of a lack of effort or awareness.
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2/26/2011  5:03 PM
I'm not sure why Mike doesn't trust Shelden, but as for picking up guys, I don't know if Donnie is looking at the guys that are basically projects. He's gonna want someone that they can be reasonably sure can contribute. Jared, Murphy and if he can't get Murphy, he'll bring in Barron. That's my prediction.
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2/26/2011  5:13 PM
Don't Want No Scrubs

The reason he does not play is because Shelden Williams is not that good a basketball player.

Jared Jeffries was released for a reason. Averaging less than 2 points and 2 rebounds is not worth a mention in any league, including church league.

Troy Murphy is tissue paper weak defensively.

Earl Barron is unemployed for a reason.

Stop the madness.

Discards do not a dynasty make.

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2/26/2011  5:17 PM
misterearl wrote:Don't Want No Scrubs

The reason he does not play is because Shelden Williams is not that good a basketball player.

Jared Jeffries was released for a reason. Averaging less than 2 points and 2 rebounds is not worth a mention in any league, including church league.

Troy Murphy is tissue paper weak defensively.

Earl Barron is unemployed for a reason.

Stop the madness.

Discards do not a dynasty make.

I agree. I think there is a ton of young talent in the d-league. I thought Chris Johnson, now a Celtic, might be a guy worth taking a chance on. However, the Knicks have a very rigid coach and I think Walsh has to look at improving his team with guys that the coach will play. Two of the guys on that list have already played for D'Antoni and the other, Murphy doesn't play d, can hit the three and rebounds so he fits.
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2/26/2011  5:21 PM
this is why MDA plays smalls, because the smalls on this team are decent and the bigs are not. Mosgov worked his way back. Turiaf is made of glass and anything over 20 minutes every 3 days makes him break
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2/26/2011  5:33 PM
misterearl wrote:Don't Want No Scrubs

The reason he does not play is because Shelden Williams is not that good a basketball player.

Jared Jeffries was released for a reason. Averaging less than 2 points and 2 rebounds is not worth a mention in any league, including church league.

Troy Murphy is tissue paper weak defensively.

Earl Barron is unemployed for a reason.

Stop the madness.

Discards do not a dynasty make.

John Starks and Anthony Mason say hello.

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2/26/2011  5:39 PM
Come on we all know that a permanent solution isn't going to be a scrub. Donnie has always had bangers and rebounders on his teams. He's not oblivious to the fact that you need strong rebounding, but you have to start your build from somewhere. They got the parts they wanted and now they can concentrate on the rest of the roster from here on out. I have faith Donnie will get it done. This is actually where he's been his strongest throughout his career. Finding bigs that can perform with lower picks etc.
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2/26/2011  5:45 PM
nixluva wrote:Come on we all know that a permanent solution isn't going to be a scrub. Donnie has always had bangers and rebounders on his teams. He's not oblivious to the fact that you need strong rebounding, but you have to start your build from somewhere. They got the parts they wanted and now they can concentrate on the rest of the roster from here on out. I have faith Donnie will get it done. This is actually where he's been his strongest throughout his career. Finding bigs that can perform with lower picks etc.
There is something to this but I didn't even think Fields was a good pick last year on draft night. I think there are some young guys that if given an opportunity might be a great fit.
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2/26/2011  7:43 PM
misterearl wrote:Don't Want No Scrubs

The reason he does not play is because Shelden Williams is not that good a basketball player.

Jared Jeffries was released for a reason. Averaging less than 2 points and 2 rebounds is not worth a mention in any league, including church league.

Troy Murphy is tissue paper weak defensively.

Earl Barron is unemployed for a reason.

Stop the madness.

Discards do not a dynasty make.

You are so right! Ok, so all Walsh has to do right now is sign Camby to start and maybe Dalembert for a backup. Oh, wait...

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2/26/2011  8:40 PM
Hey thanks for the nod Killa..Very cool of you. Appreciate that bro.
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2/26/2011  8:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2011  9:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:Come on we all know that a permanent solution isn't going to be a scrub. Donnie has always had bangers and rebounders on his teams. He's not oblivious to the fact that you need strong rebounding, but you have to start your build from somewhere. They got the parts they wanted and now they can concentrate on the rest of the roster from here on out. I have faith Donnie will get it done. This is actually where he's been his strongest throughout his career. Finding bigs that can perform with lower picks etc.
There is something to this but I didn't even think Fields was a good pick last year on draft night. I think there are some young guys that if given an opportunity might be a great fit.

Agreed Crush..

"Scrubs" is a real funny word to describe some of these guys btw..LMAO -- some of these guys are just starting out, waiting for a shot & some have had nice success in the NBA before and are working very hard for another chance..Others have proven over and over in the DL that's they're ready and more than capable..I think it's way off base and unwarranted to generalize and call all these guys scrubs..Pretty ignorant if you ask me..We're in a position now where the team is what it is. No big changes can be made at this time. There's basically only room for a minor roster move right now (for example, I'd cut Mason Jr and bring in one of these guys to see if they can fill the need). Some of you guys are holding out for David Robinson or something..Show me where that type of player was available..Even if a guy like that was available before the deadline, after the Melo trade what did we really have left to deal? Nothing..I'll tell ya one guy we had that could've helped with the rebounding -- Anthony Randolph...Too bad he never got the opportunity..

Scrubs huh? LOL. That's funny. OK, then gimmie some better alternatives for this squad in our current situation..Those are the parameters I'm working under here, come on..Let's all take a deep breath and concentrate on who's available and who we can add working within the framework, OK?

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2/26/2011  8:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2011  10:00 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
misterearl wrote:Don't Want No Scrubs

The reason he does not play is because Shelden Williams is not that good a basketball player.

Jared Jeffries was released for a reason. Averaging less than 2 points and 2 rebounds is not worth a mention in any league, including church league.

Troy Murphy is tissue paper weak defensively.

Earl Barron is unemployed for a reason.

Stop the madness.

Discards do not a dynasty make.

You are so right! Ok, so all Walsh has to do right now is sign Camby to start and maybe Dalembert for a backup. Oh, wait...

LOL! Exactly...WTF Earl???

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2/26/2011  9:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2011  9:28 PM
Uptown wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Elite wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:You just named a bunch of SCRUBS.

i rather give those SCRUBS minutes then watch Shawne Williams and Bill Walker play No D and shoot up 3s

Yes.

If one of those scrubs (esp, Sims, Jones) was on the roster last night and someone put a gun to MDA's head and forces him to play them for 15 mins, we probably win the game. All we needed was a couple of stops on D (which also includes securing a rebound)and game over.

I agree..When you look at the type of players we're talking about here, this is such an easy fix...10-day contracts, that's what we should be looking to do..I would've doled out about 20 of these minor contracts already in an attempt to find what I was looking for (hopefully I would've hit the mark on the 1st try. If not, sayonara after 10 days and on to the next guy..Pretty simple process we're talking about here)..I have trouble swallowing the fact that they either mistakenly think they have enough or are just so incredibly slow & indecisive in making their decision on who to bring aboard..Usually the adage 'good things to those who wait' rings true...Not in this case however..Make something happen already. WTF are they waiting for? I mean do they wanna lose more games like we did last night? I certainly don't..Unless Shelden Williams can somehow miraculously add something (which is highly unlikely), this problem will not be fixed from within..We really need to do something already.

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