They're going to have to adjust the tempo a bit to suit the way those guys play. It's not unlike what Mike did with Duhon and early on when Chan and the other young guys were having trouble playing fast. Mike has shown the willingness to adjust, but people overlook this fact. Still if it doesn't work we won't have to trash what we've built cuz it would only work one way. That's a very good thing.

nixluva wrote:is that with this trade the team is setup MUCH better for life after D'Antoni. For those who don't like him and don't think he'll survive here, this team is now capable of playing just as well for another coach with a more traditional system and style of play. Having a Half court capable player like Melo changes things. This team isn't stuck in the STAT or 3pt shot deal. They can post and go midrange with Melo. There's an in between component to the offense now. The same goes for Billups.

They're going to have to adjust the tempo a bit to suit the way those guys play. It's not unlike what Mike did with Duhon and early on when Chan and the other young guys were having trouble playing fast. Mike has shown the willingness to adjust, but people overlook this fact. Still if it doesn't work we won't have to trash what we've built cuz it would only work one way. That's a very good thing.

A lot will depend on if Billups wants to put in the effort at PG.

This may become a very boring team to watch on offense, with Melo and Amare taking turns as to who will take the shot.

And get ready to be frustrated on D, that is not a priority for Melo.

Paladin55 wrote:

nixluva wrote:is that with this trade the team is setup MUCH better for life after D'Antoni. For those who don't like him and don't think he'll survive here, this team is now capable of playing just as well for another coach with a more traditional system and style of play. Having a Half court capable player like Melo changes things. This team isn't stuck in the STAT or 3pt shot deal. They can post and go midrange with Melo. There's an in between component to the offense now. The same goes for Billups.

They're going to have to adjust the tempo a bit to suit the way those guys play. It's not unlike what Mike did with Duhon and early on when Chan and the other young guys were having trouble playing fast. Mike has shown the willingness to adjust, but people overlook this fact. Still if it doesn't work we won't have to trash what we've built cuz it would only work one way. That's a very good thing.

Not MDAs kind of team, bro, no matter how much he smiles and gushes about Melo at a press conference.

A lot will depend on if Billups wants to put in the effort at PG.

This may become a very boring team to watch on offense, with Melo and Amare taking turns as to who will take the shot.

And get ready to be frustrated on D, that is not a priority for Melo.

palladin--I wasnt quite sure we needed melo PERIOD--I think you remember my threads. This was a good team that needed enhancements at 5 back up 4 3 and 1--we need a bench more like dallas. there was work to do--but a great deal was already in place and YOUNG. We had it and gave it up. these fools who think we just copied Miami are going to be shtting their pants.

If this doesn't work with Mike tho, we won't be stuck with a team that can only play his style of BB. People were worried about that in the past and now we have more flexibility cuz we added halfcourt players. Still don't get it twisted tho. Mike's playbook is not just fastbreaks. Most of his plays are halfcourt plays. There are so many permutations off the basic sets that his style can adapt to many different types of players.

BRIGGS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

nixluva wrote:is that with this trade the team is setup MUCH better for life after D'Antoni. For those who don't like him and don't think he'll survive here, this team is now capable of playing just as well for another coach with a more traditional system and style of play. Having a Half court capable player like Melo changes things. This team isn't stuck in the STAT or 3pt shot deal. They can post and go midrange with Melo. There's an in between component to the offense now. The same goes for Billups.

They're going to have to adjust the tempo a bit to suit the way those guys play. It's not unlike what Mike did with Duhon and early on when Chan and the other young guys were having trouble playing fast. Mike has shown the willingness to adjust, but people overlook this fact. Still if it doesn't work we won't have to trash what we've built cuz it would only work one way. That's a very good thing.

Not MDAs kind of team, bro, no matter how much he smiles and gushes about Melo at a press conference.

A lot will depend on if Billups wants to put in the effort at PG.

This may become a very boring team to watch on offense, with Melo and Amare taking turns as to who will take the shot.

And get ready to be frustrated on D, that is not a priority for Melo.

palladin--I wasnt quite sure we needed melo PERIOD--I think you remember my threads. This was a good team that needed enhancements at 5 back up 4 3 and 1--we need a bench more like dallas. there was work to do--but a great deal was already in place and YOUNG. We had it and gave it up. these fools who think we just copied Miami are going to be shtting their pants.

Stop it. That team you are singing the praises for was average at best, and mind you we lost 12 of our last 20, were embarrased at home to Clips and were in danger of slipping to the 7th seed in the playoffs with the Sixers breathng down our backs. This obsession with potential and what could be is mindboggling to me. We have two top ten players on the same team, right now! And speaking of YOUNG Melo is 26 and Amare is 28. We still have plenty of good years ahead of us....

eViL wrote:one positive that is overlooked is that if a coach that you have staunchly defended gets fired, this team will be more suited for the next coach. hahahahahahahaha!! if he gets fired, you think it's positive?? if D'Antoni gets fired, that means this whole sh!t blew up. c'mon son. getthe****outtaherewitdatbull****.

No it doesn't mean that everything blew up. It could just mean that they didn't go as far as Dolan expected. Suppose we get to the 2nd rd and it's clear the team could've gone further, but he got outcoached? It's all about perception too. The goals and expectations are raised even if it's not realistic. So he could do a good job, but not reach lofty expectations and still get fired.

My point is that the way the teams is built now, it won't negatively effect the next coach coming in, cuz the team is more versatile.

BRIGGS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

nixluva wrote:is that with this trade the team is setup MUCH better for life after D'Antoni. For those who don't like him and don't think he'll survive here, this team is now capable of playing just as well for another coach with a more traditional system and style of play. Having a Half court capable player like Melo changes things. This team isn't stuck in the STAT or 3pt shot deal. They can post and go midrange with Melo. There's an in between component to the offense now. The same goes for Billups.

They're going to have to adjust the tempo a bit to suit the way those guys play. It's not unlike what Mike did with Duhon and early on when Chan and the other young guys were having trouble playing fast. Mike has shown the willingness to adjust, but people overlook this fact. Still if it doesn't work we won't have to trash what we've built cuz it would only work one way. That's a very good thing.

Not MDAs kind of team, bro, no matter how much he smiles and gushes about Melo at a press conference.

A lot will depend on if Billups wants to put in the effort at PG.

This may become a very boring team to watch on offense, with Melo and Amare taking turns as to who will take the shot.

And get ready to be frustrated on D, that is not a priority for Melo.

palladin--I wasnt quite sure we needed melo PERIOD--I think you remember my threads. This was a good team that needed enhancements at 5 back up 4 3 and 1--we need a bench more like dallas. there was work to do--but a great deal was already in place and YOUNG. We had it and gave it up. these fools who think we just copied Miami are going to be shtting their pants.

He is a great offensive talent, and will give us some great moments, but he is primarily an isolation player, and he cares little about playing D. Who on this Knicks team will kick him in the ass to get him playing?

I was on record as wanting us to get him in FA.

It will be ironic if in a couple of years Mosguv turns out to be the 5 you may have been looking for.

I would have loved Billups as a backup for Felton, by the way. A good leader with an outside shot- but I'm not sure he has it in him at this point to lead this team.

We will see.