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foosballnick
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2/22/2011  4:00 PM
Oye....

I guess people on this board must have short memories.....

Gallo - has been blasted when he was drafted and throughout his career. When the kid had back problems everyone thought his career was over. There were comments that the Knicks drafted him because was a friend of the family and the only reason people liked him was because he was tall and white like Larry Bird or that he is not in the same league as Dirk and is a poor man's Kukoc. Waste of the #6 Overall Pick.

Felton - when he was aquired I distinctly remember someone saying he was slow and had short arms. They posted a picture of a T-Rex as a comparison LOL. He did relatively little for Larry Brown and was a waste of a contract and cap space.

Moz - When he was aquired and people looked at the YouTube Clips - many made fun of his lack of athletic abilities, bad temper and bad hands. A certain poster lambasted him and clamored continually for Barron based on his 11 or so game stint last year. Many thought he was a project at best who would never see any PT.

AR - most loved the trade and had high hopes for AR. Some comments compared him favorably to Camby's skillset. When he continued to ride the pine for MDA - most now bash him.

Chandler - over the years - many have questioned his decision making, competitiveness and desire.

Now all of a sudden most are clammoring for these "assets" are like they were budding all stars.

Most here now were lukewarm or hated the Amare pickup. Selfish player, Lack of Maturity, Knee Problems will give us only 3 years. Good Scorer but does not play Defense. Not a team player. David Lee is as good if not better in the Knicks system.

Now on The Melo Trade. He is one dimensional, the next Bob McAdoo in a Knicks Uniform - who will not be able to play alongside Stat nor in MDA's system. How we gave up way too much of our young homegrown assets - guys we love.... I guess everyone forgot how much they disliked those moves when the players listed above were acquired....or is it that people like to complain in general about everything.

The team has not won a championship in 40 years, I think we can all wait 20 more games to give the new roster a chance to gel a bit and see what happens. How about we give it a chance and see what happens before we boo or denounce our Knick fanhood?

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2/22/2011  4:02 PM
foosballnick wrote:or is it that people like to complain in general about everything.

I think this option nails it

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2/22/2011  4:07 PM
I was a young boy the last time the Knicks won a title. I'm so happy that we signed Donnie and he cleaned up the mess and changed our direction. I'm happy with Amar'e and how the team was improving. I'm ecstatic about the trade. Finally after the sad way we never found Ewing a Co-Star, we got Amar'e one inside his 1st year!!!! Do fans realize how freakin amazing that is?
foosballnick
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2/22/2011  7:44 PM
nixluva wrote:Finally after the sad way we never found Ewing a Co-Star, we got Amar'e one inside his 1st year!!!! Do fans realize how freakin amazing that is?

Nope - they don't. I didn't love the trade - gave up too much. However the upside can be tremendous if it works.

PS - forgot to add that many complained about Donnie during all his salary dump moves. Now they are calling for him to Quit as he Dolan is ruining all the good moves he has made LOL.

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2/22/2011  7:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2011  7:49 PM
Best I've felt about the Knicks in YEARS! It's no longer hope, it's expectation...I feel like a different fan altogether.

Like a lakers fan complaining they might not win 3 in a row.

I feel like what I actually am...a Yankees fan.

Thanks to Donnie Walsh...nice job...I have to say I was skeptical he could get two stars here with those wasted cap space years.

I can't believe we have Carmelo Anthony AND Amare.

Literally blown away guys.
I'm ecstatic...will have a jersey as soon as his number is announced.

Blown away.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
babyKnicks
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2/22/2011  7:53 PM
I don't remember what it's like having Chandler. I had everyone traded mentally weeks ago.

Loved gallo...really was beginning to love his drives to the paint and getting to the line and natural Italian fire.

He's the only one that spoke to the press yesterday. all moxie.

Loved mozgov as well, but just like Frazier said, love affair with the 12th man.

Melo will be winning games for us NIGHTLY.

You guys have to understand...we can officially complain about losses to sub .500 teams and not have to sugar coat it.

We should only lose to Boston and Miami tops from here on out.

That same feeling when amare was rampaging for 30 point games.

That feeling "we are winning this game."

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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2/22/2011  8:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2011  8:01 PM
babyKnicks wrote:I can't believe we have Carmelo Anthony AND Amare.

agreed. we traded role players for one of the best offensive players in the league. i'm willing to give donnie some time to replenish the depth.
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2/22/2011  8:07 PM
Our record pre trade 28-26

Can anyone in the history of basketball find me a team that traded


their starting C SF PG 6th man off of a wiining team? We gave up 7-1 6-10 6-11 6-8 i could go on here my man. This has never happened in basketball young team that was going to grow. Now you have two players who play the same way--ball dominant medium range jump shooters no size for a coach who plays different style LOL

there is no way i will root against the Knicks but I think we just had a major league FU. AND if anyone goes down--thats not part of fate--we took that risk when we gaev away a whole etam of deptha nd assets.

role players role players are NOT felton chandler and gallo role player = bill walker

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2/22/2011  8:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Our record pre trade 28-26

Can anyone in the history of basketball find me a team that traded


their starting C SF PG 6th man off of a wiining team? We gave up 7-1 6-10 6-11 6-8 i could go on here my man. This has never happened in basketball young team that was going to grow. Now you have two players who play the same way--ball dominant medium range jump shooters no size for a coach who plays different style LOL

there is no way i will root against the Knicks but I think we just had a major league FU. AND if anyone goes down--thats not part of fate--we took that risk when we gaev away a whole etam of deptha nd assets.

role players role players are NOT felton chandler and gallo role player = bill walker

You lost all credibility when you were pining for Barron and blasting away at Moz at the beginning of the season. It would make you a hypocrite to now pine for the loss of Moz. Further is is only a starter in name and out of need on a mediocre roster. We gave up a starting PG for a better (albeit older) starting PG. Any argument otherwise is just folly. MDA's system has a habit of making offensive players produce better stats so you have to take into account the entire body of work. We traded a starting SF for a better starting SF. Whether they mesh into a winning combination remains to be seen.

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2/22/2011  8:25 PM
you are over rating what the knicks had. they could have developed into good players but a lot of other things could have happened as well. i am willing to put my faith in donnie walsh and let him continue to work his magic.
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2/22/2011  8:44 PM
The only player of real value we lost was gallo as he has the potential to be a superstar. He was really getting to the line well but he is no melo and he was up for a contract after next year. Melo couldn't play with gallo anyway, I don't think. I'll take a billups rental over a felton rental any day of the week. They are both gone after next season. Chandler is not a bright player nor is Randolph, they are not important parts.

We may have overpaid in the sense that we could maybe have gotten melo for free but how would any of us really know that?

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2/22/2011  8:50 PM
Cash wrote:The only player of real value we lost was gallo as he has the potential to be a superstar. He was really getting to the line well but he is no melo and he was up for a contract after next year. Melo couldn't play with gallo anyway, I don't think. I'll take a billups rental over a felton rental any day of the week. They are both gone after next season. Chandler is not a bright player nor is Randolph, they are not important parts.

We may have overpaid in the sense that we could maybe have gotten melo for free but how would any of us really know that?

I think gallo could play with melo. gallo defers so that would not have been a problem.. I am with briggs, what team in history has traded so much, while having a winning record...?

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2/22/2011  9:08 PM
tkf wrote:
Cash wrote:The only player of real value we lost was gallo as he has the potential to be a superstar. He was really getting to the line well but he is no melo and he was up for a contract after next year. Melo couldn't play with gallo anyway, I don't think. I'll take a billups rental over a felton rental any day of the week. They are both gone after next season. Chandler is not a bright player nor is Randolph, they are not important parts.

We may have overpaid in the sense that we could maybe have gotten melo for free but how would any of us really know that?

I think gallo could play with melo. gallo defers so that would not have been a problem.. I am with briggs, what team in history has traded so much, while having a winning record...?

It felt like so much more than .500. But it wasn't.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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2/22/2011  9:18 PM
tkf wrote:
Cash wrote:The only player of real value we lost was gallo as he has the potential to be a superstar. He was really getting to the line well but he is no melo and he was up for a contract after next year. Melo couldn't play with gallo anyway, I don't think. I'll take a billups rental over a felton rental any day of the week. They are both gone after next season. Chandler is not a bright player nor is Randolph, they are not important parts.

We may have overpaid in the sense that we could maybe have gotten melo for free but how would any of us really know that?

I think gallo could play with melo. gallo defers so that would not have been a problem.. I am with briggs, what team in history has traded so much, while having a winning record...?

So u put amare at center, melo at pf, and gallo at the three? Would that have worked and honestly I am asking a question more than anything?

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2/22/2011  9:30 PM
You guys crack me up. Your acting like we are breaking up the Lakers or the Bulls dynasty. The fact is we broke up a team that had 1 good month this year against mediocre to bad teams and with the exception of the Miami game, lost to the upper echelon of the league. We did not give up 1 All Star in the trade and you can't convince me that any of those guys will make an all star team in their careers. We received the two best players in the trade and we now have 2 of the top twelve players in the league on our roster. Stop complaining and leave your man crushes in Denver and let's see if we can make some noise in the playoffs for the first time since 1999.
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2/22/2011  9:41 PM
I think fans are always going to analyze their team, and criticize faults of the players as well as highlight their strengths. That doesn't mean that giving up a 22 year old averaging 15 and 5 along with a 23 year old averaging 16 and 6 w/1.5 blocks and a 26 year old borderline all star who was averaging 17 and 9 is going to be easy to stomach when the guy you gave them up for was only going to go to your team anyway. Add in Moz, a first rounder, 11 mil in cap space, Randolph, the only tradeable first round pick for the next five years, and two second round picks and I think fans have a really good reason to bitch and moan. When you look at the recent history of this team and how its all in trades have worked out I don't think there is anyway you can say. "Enough".
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