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Knickss208
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2/21/2011  5:54 PM
Im confused. I know it looks like we are giving up everything for this trade, but fields, felton, and gallo are all free agents at the end of next season and chandler is done at the end of this season. Billups is a good player and we still maintain flexibility for the future. These are role players and we can draft and sign more role players for the future. It takes two super stars to win. I hate giving it all up, but what other choice is there?
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2/21/2011  6:03 PM
Fields- he will qualify for Early Bird hence why I said Donnie will deal with him in 2012...

that means the knicks can resign him for 175% of his salary or average salary(MLE), so no doubts Landry will get around 5 mil.

Now I didn't want to dwell, but Landry if he's playing at a high level after next yr can take a one yr MLE then he will have full Bird rights the next yr....or he can sign a min of 2 and max of 5 with 10.5% increases

We WILL retain Fields in 2012. We will have Bird Rights for both Gallo and Felton.
Knickss208
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2/21/2011  6:06 PM
and you think we will have enough money to sign all of them??? come on. we dont even know if bird rights will exist after this season with the new cba
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2/21/2011  6:22 PM
Knickss208 wrote:and you think we will have enough money to sign all of them??? come on. we dont even know if bird rights will exist after this season with the new cba

The NBA cannot take away a team's rights to sign it's own players. I don't mean won't. Can't.

The math doesn't work.

They may have to take less. Teams might have any exceptions. Or have limited ability to sign someone else's free agent. But the league literally comes to a stop if ALL teams lose the ability to sign their own free agents.
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2/21/2011  6:23 PM
Knickss208 wrote:and you think we will have enough money to sign all of them??? come on. we dont even know if bird rights will exist after this season with the new cba

Of course not, we'd have to go over the cap. Sure way to feild a winner. Get locked into a .500 team for the next 4-5 years.

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Moonangie
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2/21/2011  6:37 PM
CashMoney wrote:
Knickss208 wrote:and you think we will have enough money to sign all of them??? come on. we dont even know if bird rights will exist after this season with the new cba

Of course not, we'd have to go over the cap. Sure way to feild a winner. Get locked into a .500 team for the next 4-5 years.

We have plenty of money to exceed the cap if we use Bird RIghts. Of course, that presumes we will have the option of exceeding the cap in the new CBA. ANything's possible right now. But ceteris paribus, we will be able to resign them.
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2/21/2011  6:38 PM
Knickss208 wrote:and you think we will have enough money to sign all of them??? come on. we dont even know if bird rights will exist after this season with the new cba

What I dont understand is why so many people think things like bird rights and money are going to change dramatically under a new CBA. Have you ever seen the money go DOWN? If anything all of these guys have been getting richer. Also, why would the NBA hurt teams who want to keep their star players?

The new CBA probably won't be dramatically different from what we have today. Really the only change I think it needs is to get rid of guaranteed contracts so players like Curry don't hog valuable cap space and bench pine. I doubt that will happen. It would also be nice if they got rid of the cap so NYK could really be a player in the market but that wont happen either - just like players wont lose money under a new agreement.

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2/21/2011  6:41 PM
If the cap situation under the new CBA is as dire as some make it out to be it looks like regardless of whether the trade goes through the Knicks are screwed from fielding a championship contending team unless they hit multiple home runs with draft picks.

Also to consider under a new CBA..if it has a lower cap...a hard cap or both..what does the league do to teams like Miami that have $65M committed next season to just the big 3 +

Mike Miller
Haslem
Joel Anthony
Eddie House
+ 4 guys I've never heard of?

Check it out:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
Moonangie
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2/21/2011  6:44 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:If the cap situation under the new CBA is as dire as some make it out to be it looks like regardless of whether the trade goes through the Knicks are screwed from fielding a championship contending team unless they hit multiple home runs with draft picks.

Also to consider under a new CBA..if it has a lower cap...a hard cap or both..what does the league do to teams like Miami that have $65M committed next season to just the big 3 +

Mike Miller
Haslem
Joel Anthony
Eddie House
+ 4 guys I've never heard of?

Check it out:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

Where did you get that $65mil figure from?
knicks1248
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2/21/2011  6:45 PM
OasisBU wrote:
Knickss208 wrote:and you think we will have enough money to sign all of them??? come on. we dont even know if bird rights will exist after this season with the new cba

What I dont understand is why so many people think things like bird rights and money are going to change dramatically under a new CBA. Have you ever seen the money go DOWN? If anything all of these guys have been getting richer. Also, why would the NBA hurt teams who want to keep their star players?

The new CBA probably won't be dramatically different from what we have today. Really the only change I think it needs is to get rid of guaranteed contracts so players like Curry don't hog valuable cap space and bench pine. I doubt that will happen. It would also be nice if they got rid of the cap so NYK could really be a player in the market but that wont happen either - just like players wont lose money under a new agreement.

Have you been paying attention, the sides are as far off as the colors black and white..

-scaling back exsisting salaries
-Placing franchise tags
-A serious hard cap..

Thats not even 1/10th of the issues they have

ES
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2/21/2011  6:47 PM
A guy like Gallo would probably sign for a more reasonable contract to stay in NY, and I think Chandler might do the same. Just a feeling with these two players.

Something to consider, IMO.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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