The Knicks would send three starters -- Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, and Raymond Felton -- to Denver for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams and Anthony Carter, sources said Sunday. The Nuggets would get the Knicks' first-round pick in 2014, while Minnesota would get Eddy Curry's expiring contract and Anthony Randolph from New York. Curry would then be waived, and the Knicks would send as much as $3 million to Minnesota to pay his freight. Carter must approve the trade and waive his Bird rights for the deal to be approved.

Confident that a Friday night meeting between Anthony, his representatives, and a Nets contingent led by Russian owner Mikhail Prokhorov and hip-hop mogul Jay-Z did not result in a commitment from Anthony to sign an extension with New Jersey, the Knicks are drawing the line. They are not offering rookie Landry Fields or Russian center Timofey Mozgov, two pieces Denver has asked for at various times in the negotiations, sources said.

The Anthony drama now rests in the hands of Nuggets executives Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri, who must decide whether to accept the Knicks' offer, continue pursuing other avenues, or keep Anthony beyond Thursday's trade deadline.

As the Knicks' pursuit of Anthony reached a tipping point Sunday, the team released a joint statement from Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan, president Donnie Walsh, and coach Mike D'Antoni saying all three were in agreement on the Anthony discussions. In a rare and obscure step, the statement also asserted that "no one from outside our organization" was involved in the Anthony process -- an obvious reference to former team president Isiah Thomas, whose input Dolan has received since Thomas was replaced by Walsh in 2008.

With so many agendas and obfuscation attempts at play, it was difficult to predict Sunday how Denver would respond. But Nuggets executives have signaled that they want a resolution to the Anthony matter by the end of All-Star weekend -- a timetable that Anthony publicly stated that he favored, as well.

Just as the Knicks' negotiating strategy was sidetracked by Dolan's decision to get involved in the negotiations and meet with Anthony Thursday night in Los Angeles, so have the Nuggets' efforts been influenced by agendas affecting their still complicated hierarchy. Sources say Denver's reluctance to deal with New York throughout the process was prompted more by a feeling among some segments of the team's power structure that they should not give Anthony what he wants -- a three-year, $65 million extension with the team of his choice. But sources also assert it will be difficult for Denver to turn down what could be the best offer they will receive for Anthony -- one that gives them a quality point guard, Felton, on a better contract than the Nets' Devin Harris; a young, promising frontcourt player, Chandler, who is more polished than New Jersey's Derrick Favors; a hard-nosed, floor-spacing shooter, Gallinari, instead of multiple first-round picks from New Jersey whose ultimate value is undetermined; and $20 million in immediate savings.

The Nuggets' basketball staff is said to have preferred the Nets' long-standing offer centered around Favors and multiple picks, which would set the team up for a long-term rebuilding process -- whereas the Knicks' offer provides assets better suited to a quicker turnaround after Anthony's departure. But the Nets' competing offer ran its course with Friday night's obligatory meeting between Anthony and New Jersey officials, which CBSSports.com reported was allowed as a condition of Anthony receiving permission to meet with Dolan on Thursday.
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/27587236

I didn't see anything about the Knicks getting a pick back from Minny in this new scenario either. In my opinion this is worse than the prior report of the deal with Minny's pick.

Anthony Carter is an underrated part of the deal IMO and he will be very usefull here and TD will be able to spend his minutes at SG.

I don't like losing Gallo but he's really the only loss, what with the Felton-Billups shortterm swap and the loss of Chandler regardless and I therefore consider it the cost of doing business.

I really hope this us a take-it-or-leave-it deal. If Denver says no now, it's time to move on.

useless

spreeeewell wrote:Who knows? Maybe Walsh has a deal with Minnesotta and another team. cause we have to get something back if we are sending Curry and Randolph to Minnie. And by the way. WHERE IS TMS?

TheGame wrote:I don't understand why we would give up Randolph if we are not getting a pick from Minny. If we give Minny $3 mill, then pretty much most of Curry's remaining salary would be paid by us. Why give them Randolph unless we are getting a pick back? We need to get at least a protected first round pick or two second round picks from Minny.

So it would seem that we can't even get Denver to take on Curry in this deal, and instead of trading Randolph for a #1, we are giving him to Minny so they will take Curry's contract, AND, we are basically paying Minny to take on Randolph and Curry... perhaps getting a trade exception.

Seems to me that we are being pretty generous to Denver, who has a star who no longer wants to play with them, and Minny, who is getting $3M, a young player who may still have an upside, and an expiring contract.

There are 4 "players" in involved, and 3 of them- Denver, Minny, and Melo, seem to be winners, while the Knicks, who thought they might be getting a FA star next summer for the cost of a contract, are fleeced for at least 3 starters, a prospect (Randolph) $3m, and OUR OWN 2014 #1.

Yeah, thank god Isiah Dolan stepped in to bring a little sanity to these negotiations.

spreeeewell wrote:Who knows? Maybe Walsh has a deal with Minnesotta and another team. cause we have to get something back if we are sending Curry and Randolph to Minnie. And by the way. WHERE IS TMS?

Bitter feud...http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=38091&page=1

(did not see earlier post)

C-Mosgov

F amare

F Melo

G Fields

G Billups

6 Douglas

Can donnie go get me Grant Hill and Dalembart?we need a 2nd/3rd move. If we are going to go for it--go for it!!