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raven
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2/20/2011  12:37 PM
I will stop caring and rooting for this team if Thomas the snake comes back again.

We were back to respectability, we want to take shortcuts again and while doing so, will put shame on the guy who brought us back on track, Walsh.

I would have no respect left for what would be a joke of a franchise, I just couldn't take it anymore.

I sincerely hope things will go the right way, that we won't overpay for a player that, although very talented, will only lead us to second round exits.

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crzymdups
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2/20/2011  1:06 PM
+1
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PresIke
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2/20/2011  1:08 PM
and if we're a title contending team will some folks stick to their word?
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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2/20/2011  1:10 PM
raven wrote:I will stop caring and rooting for this team if Thomas the snake comes back again.

We were back to respectability, we want to take shortcuts again and while doing so, will put shame on the guy who brought us back on track, Walsh.

I would have no respect left for what would be a joke of a franchise, I just couldn't take it anymore.

I sincerely hope things will go the right way, that we won't overpay for a player that, although very talented, will only lead us to second round exits.

you and everyone else on the board. But we are not there yet. Frget the hype and focus on the facts, life get's a little easier when you do.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
JamaicanJetFan
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2/20/2011  1:10 PM
I'm out if Isiah returns
BigSm00th
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2/20/2011  1:14 PM
if isiah comes back i won't buy a ticket until jim dolan is no longer affiliated with the franchise. i'll wait however long.

if dolan brings isiah back the NYETS are going to have a lot of fans when they move to BK.

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2/20/2011  1:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/20/2011  1:23 PM
raven wrote:I will stop caring and rooting for this team if Thomas the snake comes back again.

We were back to respectability, we want to take shortcuts again and while doing so, will put shame on the guy who brought us back on track, Walsh.

I would have no respect left for what would be a joke of a franchise, I just couldn't take it anymore.

I sincerely hope things will go the right way, that we won't overpay for a player that, although very talented, will only lead us to second round exits.

34 years for me. Everyone should be getting bad vibes about Thomas' reemergence as a strings-pulling behind the scenes decision-maker for the Knicks. I dismissed all the talk of him becoming GM again when it was a topic of discussion last year, but I obviously underestimated the ties between Dolan and Thomas.

How ironic is it that Walsh, the guy who dug the franchise out of the hole Isiah put us in, has now (seemingly)become marginalized during some of the most important negotiations the team is going through in decades.

Lupica has a comment from a source bringing up the McAdoo/Haywood experiment of many years ago and how that failed. Are we going to be heading in this direction as a team?

If we do sign and extended contract Melo and the cap shrinks, what will that mean for roster flexibility? And what if the new CBA allows teams to put franchise tags on players or are allowed other advantages when trying to resign one of their star players? What will that mean for the future development of this team.

Anthony himself has reconfirmed that some players are only out for the money- how will players react when the team they are on can offer much more $$ than other suitors.

People who have doubts about Isiah's judgement should take note that the present trade particulars may have originated with (or been inspired by)Isiah, the same guy who buried this team only a few years ago. Should the guy who helped make the franchise a laughing stock now be a "player" in this trade?

And even more ironic is the possibility that Isiah may be playing a key part in a trade which includes his greatest mistake- E. Curry.

Lets see what happens. Will sanity, in the steady hands of Walsh, reemerge, or will MSG may once again become the Worlds Most Famous Arena... for the absurd.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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2/20/2011  1:32 PM
raven wrote:I will stop caring and rooting for this team if Thomas the snake comes back again.

We were back to respectability, we want to take shortcuts again and while doing so, will put shame on the guy who brought us back on track, Walsh.

I would have no respect left for what would be a joke of a franchise, I just couldn't take it anymore.

I sincerely hope things will go the right way, that we won't overpay for a player that, although very talented, will only lead us to second round exits.

+1

I said the same thing several times this weekend. If Dolan rules this thing and brings Isiah back after all he's done, I'll be done with the Knicks. And because I like the NBA too much, I might have to find myself a new team to root for. That'd suck, but I just can't stand stupidity like this.

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2/20/2011  1:33 PM
raven wrote:I will stop caring and rooting for this team if Thomas the snake comes back again.

We were back to respectability, we want to take shortcuts again and while doing so, will put shame on the guy who brought us back on track, Walsh.

I would have no respect left for what would be a joke of a franchise, I just couldn't take it anymore.

I sincerely hope things will go the right way, that we won't overpay for a player that, although very talented, will only lead us to second round exits.

Papabear Says

I kinda think the reason why Dolan likes I.T. is because Isaih did everything Dolan asked of him to do. If you want to stop being a Knicks fan look to Dolan. Zeke can't do anything than Dolan don't approve of. If Isaih comes back I might not like it but I will still be a Knicks fan. He did not destroy this franchise. The franchis was destroyed when Ewing left and we allowed him to leave and we got nothing back. Plus bad trades and giving Alan Houston 100 million and that was before Zeke so stop blaming him for all of the Knicks woes.It was bad before he got here and he was pushed to get a playoff team now! And with D Lee, Zach, Crawford, Marbs that year before Zach and Crawford got traded we would have made the playoffs. We might not have gotten far but we would have made it with a winning record.

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2/20/2011  2:12 PM
Very glad to hear that Cap'n Zeke is bringing his special brand of entertainment back to the garden.
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Biggamer3
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2/20/2011  2:25 PM
Isiah is back And i am off to being a Brooklyn Nets fan
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2/20/2011  2:39 PM
If he does come back I'm going to still be a Knicks fan, just not follow them so closely if they start to lose. I will never abandon ship, just care less.
arkrud
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2/20/2011  2:52 PM
I will continue to follow the Knicks because it will be the greatest joke in town.
As per bbal, I will probably stop wasting time.
NBA as getting more of a joke as a whole thing.
Will concentate more on hockey.
NHL is defenetally heading into right direction and has alot of decent people in the game.
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2/20/2011  3:17 PM
As a long time season ticket holder and lifelong fan, if Isiah comes back I will under no circumstances (Melo or no Melo) renew my season subscription. I will not contribute to that man's salary as a matter of personal pride. I despise Isiah Thomas more than any other human being I can think of for what he did to this franchise. What I don't understand is that if he is such a great talent evaluator and executive why has Detriot, where he had a Hall of Fame career and multiple championships, stay as far away from him as humanely possible? Joe Dumars, an ex teammate wants nothing to do with him, no front office job offer after the Knicks let him go, no scouting title, nothing. Isiah is a man without a country and one friend left in this world, unfortunately for us Knick fans, that friend is none other than Jimmy Dolan. It's bad enough we have to deal with the worst owner this side of Dan Sterling, what compounds the maddness is that moron of an owner has a man crush on the most toxic person in this entire league, if not professional sports.

I hold on to the faint hope that David Stern stepped in once, maybe he will do it again.

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2/20/2011  3:28 PM
PresIke wrote:and if we're a title contending team will some folks stick to their word?

I doubt it.
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2/20/2011  3:37 PM
Silverfuel wrote:
PresIke wrote:and if we're a title contending team will some folks stick to their word?

I doubt it.

Agreed. Also, why is everyone so quick to believe rumors, and sources of some writers as opposed to statements released from Dolan, MDA and Walsh themselves?

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2/20/2011  3:43 PM
I agree with you. I'll be done.

That's my censored version.

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2/20/2011  3:48 PM
Just as my screen name says, i will lose it if this guy comes back. I will root for another team or just give up watching the sport.
I want to leave something that's going to stand for a long timeI want to leave a legacy,I want to leave tradition.I want to leave an imprint,a blueprint in terms of how people play,and how they coach and how they respond when they put on the Knick uni.
raven
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2/20/2011  6:13 PM
PresIke wrote:and if we're a title contending team will some folks stick to their word?

I don't think we can contend to anything without long term thinking. Very rare are examples of franchises built through ''fair'' trades (ie: no gasol gift or Lebron and co) that led to championships.

Dolan is a shame of a owner and Thomas has done us so much harm it's insane he's still around.

We won't contend, our big 3 (that we mayeven not have) can't contend with Miami, so what's the point? I'd rather build aournd youth and try to be like the spurs, good system, good drafting, solid and respected organisation. We are very far from that, and themelo trade would only put even further.

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2/20/2011  6:23 PM
raven wrote:
PresIke wrote:and if we're a title contending team will some folks stick to their word?

I don't think we can contend to anything without long term thinking. Very rare are examples of franchises built through ''fair'' trades (ie: no gasol gift or Lebron and co) that led to championships.

Dolan is a shame of a owner and Thomas has done us so much harm it's insane he's still around.

We won't contend, our big 3 (that we mayeven not have) can't contend with Miami, so what's the point? I'd rather build aournd youth and try to be like the spurs, good system, good drafting, solid and respected organisation. We are very far from that, and themelo trade would only put even further.

I disagree. We got Amar'e and after that the plan was to try and lure Lebron. Once that didn't happen, the next Superstar that was available became the prime target. So if we complete this phase of the process, it's a good thing and makes the team better. our chances for success have improved and that's really all you can do. I actually think we CAN compete with Miami, if we can make a couple more additions. This process is ongoing, but we'll be much closer after this trade than we were before.

After 20 years of beoing a Knicks fan

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