BlueSeats wrote:

technomaster wrote:
Billups cons:
* Really only one: Age. Will be 35 at the start of the 2011-2012 season. He was a late bloomer, though, and his mature style of play may allow him to be effective into his mid-late 30's.

Agreed. His style of play was never really ball-to-the-walls either, meaning it doesn't rely on great athleticism, explosiveness or speed. I think he can be a cagey vet longer than most.

I think he has 2 more years in him, which is all we need him for.

My only problem with the swap is that if we do strike out on Paul/Deron, or don't have the cap space to acquire them (more likely), we're in the hunt for a starting PG again. And Melo/Amar'e NEED a PG more than say LeBron/Wade or even Kobe/Gasol.

As much flak as Felton got lately, he could've been a legit long-term solution for us. I also like the fact that we'd have two NCAA championship winners in Felton/Melo.

scoshin wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

technomaster wrote:
Billups cons:
* Really only one: Age. Will be 35 at the start of the 2011-2012 season. He was a late bloomer, though, and his mature style of play may allow him to be effective into his mid-late 30's.

Agreed. His style of play was never really ball-to-the-walls either, meaning it doesn't rely on great athleticism, explosiveness or speed. I think he can be a cagey vet longer than most.

I think he has 2 more years in him, which is all we need him for.

My only problem with the swap is that if we do strike out on Paul/Deron, or don't have the cap space to acquire them (more likely), we're in the hunt for a starting PG again. And Melo/Amar'e NEED a PG more than say LeBron/Wade or even Kobe/Gasol.

As much flak as Felton got lately, he could've been a legit long-term solution for us. I also like the fact that we'd have two NCAA championship winners in Felton/Melo.

Agreed. He's only a short term "solution" (not sure there was a problem with Felton) But Billups is a very economical player from an energy-expenditure perspective. There's little wasted movement. I don't know if he'll have the longevity of a Stockton, Nash or Kidd, but while his minutes will drop his performance wont fall off the cliff like it did with guys like Francis and Marbury.

If this trade goes down, I'm not sure we will have the kind of team he envisioned, and I'm not sure he will be wanted by Walsh's replacement.

Just some thoughts...

technomaster wrote:
* Doesn't need to push the ball at hyper speed to be effective

I'm not sure Chauncey can play at hyper speed anymore. The Nuggets have the luxury of giving Ty Lawson major minutes, so Chauncey doesn't have to worry about getting worn out. If this trade goes through, Billups will have to play major minutes and pretty quick pace for us. I'm not sure he can do it.

Olbrannon wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

technomaster wrote:
* Doesn't need to push the ball at hyper speed to be effective

I'm not sure Chauncey can play at hyper speed anymore. The Nuggets have the luxury of giving Ty Lawson major minutes, so Chauncey doesn't have to worry about getting worn out. If this trade goes through, Billups will have to play major minutes and pretty quick pace for us. I'm not sure he can do it.

Umhmm Chauncey has been an excellent teacher for Lawson and will be as well for Douglas. In fact I recall when TD first played against him Chauncey took a liking to Toney. Other than Sam Cassell I can't think of anyone I'd rather have teaching him or Nash.

I know Melo has already played under d'A Didn't Chauncey this summer as well?

FistOfOakley wrote:given his reluctance to move away from denver he'd probably be 'coerced' into a trade to ny meaning his heart wouldn't be into it..

he'd be a good fit if we get a career average performance from him... someone who can knock down open 3's and hit an open man... of which he'll get plenty of.... and someone who doesn't need to dribble half the shot clock to make a decision...

Billups has not issue with leaving Denver. He wants his $14m 2011 option picked up. That's what his little proclamation a couple of months ago was really about.

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=38130

illustrates the problems felton is giving our team right now.

he is shooting poorly from outside, and it's affecting amar'e, especially.

here's the quotes i posted from the knickerblooger article:

on average each percentage point increase in Felton’s TS% increases Stoudemire’s TS% by 0.24 points. In other words, the more efficiently Felton scores, the better Amaré is.

If Felton can’t prove to them that he is a dangerous shotmaker, they lay off of him and commit to keeping Stoudemire out of the paint. The statistics bear this out: Stoudemire is taking a lot more shots out of isolation plays. Last year in Phoenix, 61% of his baskets came off assists. This year, only 48% of them do.

in mda's offense the pg has to be able to hit a 20-27 foot jumper consistently.

we've been struggling with his bad shooting of late.

billups is a far superior shooter, and could potentially thrive in this offense.

he is older, but the question then becomes will felton be a better shooter?

if i'm him, if he doesn't get traded, i work my ass off on my outside shooting.