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JohnWallace44
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2/17/2011  2:44 PM
Given the current chaos of the Melo situation; if you're a GM of an NBA team that's out of it, are you dangling your players to the Knicks to see if you can grab above value prospects from the Knicks in the potential aftermath of a botched deal for Melo?

If so, who are those teams and those players?

Biedrins
Maggette
Baron Davis
Camby
Pryzbilla
Zacholph
Barbosa
Heinrich
R Evans
Dunleavy
Foster
Odom

With Amare, the new improved Gallo and Maggette off the bench at the 2... would teams ever be able to keep us off the stripe? Zach would be one of the more perfect fits in the front court for STAT. Not great defense, but better than a lot of our other options.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Nalod
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2/17/2011  2:56 PM

IM not trying to fix the team in one fell swoop.

with less than 30 games im going with Mozzy and Turiaf and I might not be looking to train a new back up point.

TD is not perfect but a change is not always better. It took all of preseason and 13 games for Felton to get it.

I'd look for a big like Foster or Barron. Nothing big.

IM looking to the future and magette is not in it.

Ira
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2/17/2011  3:01 PM
The player I'd like from that list is Hinrich. He does a lot of the things that we need in the back court. But his contract would limit our flexibility.
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2/17/2011  3:06 PM
I'm not interested in any over-hyped aging "could have bee"n players or those that were the best players on bad teams. Almost everyone on that list is the type of guy I'd expect Thomas to have acquired and labeled as franchise saviors. Either top shelf support at a reasonable cost or another All-Star. If that's not immediately available, let it go, let the players and coach focus on getting into the playoffs and finding a way to win a series, and then start focusing on the draft and other off-season acquisitions.
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2/17/2011  3:07 PM
there are some good pieces there... Biedrins could be a very nice piece next to Amare. I like Heinrich alot also and I think he would be a stud here. The other guy that would be really good is Reggie Evans. Dude would be perfect here for 25 minutes a night off the bench.

I'm not giving up Chandler, Gallo, Fields or Mosgov though... not for those guys. I know that limits what I can aquire. I would be open to moving one of them for a bigger piece like Javale McGee or OJ Mayo

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JohnWallace44
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2/17/2011  3:09 PM
All the Knicks killed it last night except for Felton. I still don't think he's the answer.

Still infatuated with Maynor, but I don't know what it would take to get him. Chandler still really needs to be traded if he's not going to be re-signed.

I've been posting for a while that there should be a fit between the Knicks prospects and OKC's Mullens and Maynor. Ray and AR for Mo Pete/Mullens/Maynor would be bold and might propel both teams to the next level.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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2/17/2011  3:25 PM
if the plan suddenly becomes pawning off our flexibility for B or C level talent, I'd target Ben Gordon and Tayshuan Prince. Austin Daye can move in for Prince and they overpaid Gordon. Chandler/Gallo, Turiaf, Buike, and Curry and cash for Gordon and Prince.

Felton/Gordon
Fields/Gordon
Prince/Gallo or Chandler
Amar'e/Gallo or Chandler
Mozgov/????

Leaves AR, TD, Williams, Douglas, Walker, and Gallo/Chandler all available for a trade. Maybe something like Mozgov + AR for Gortat

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2/17/2011  3:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/17/2011  3:33 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:All the Knicks killed it last night except for Felton. I still don't think he's the answer.

Still infatuated with Maynor, but I don't know what it would take to get him. Chandler still really needs to be traded if he's not going to be re-signed.

I've been posting for a while that there should be a fit between the Knicks prospects and OKC's Mullens and Maynor. Ray and AR for Mo Pete/Mullens/Maynor would be bold and might propel both teams to the next level.

I must be watching different games from y'all but Felton had a great game last night. He was everywhere on defense and outside of Gallo and Douglas (and himself) everyone else had a great shooting night, while Felton had 11 assists. How did Felton have a bad game last night?

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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2/17/2011  3:45 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:All the Knicks killed it last night except for Felton. I still don't think he's the answer.

Still infatuated with Maynor, but I don't know what it would take to get him. Chandler still really needs to be traded if he's not going to be re-signed.

I've been posting for a while that there should be a fit between the Knicks prospects and OKC's Mullens and Maynor. Ray and AR for Mo Pete/Mullens/Maynor would be bold and might propel both teams to the next level.

I must be watching different games from y'all but Felton had a great game last night. He was everywhere on defense and outside of Gallo and Douglas (and himself) everyone else had a great shooting night, while Felton had 11 assists. How did Felton have a bad game last night?

For me, I wouldn't necessarily say he had a bad game, but he could certainly have had a better game.

16 shots for one, this is a trend recently. Now, I understand that for the PnR to be dangerous, the PG gotta be able to hit the open jumper to make sure the opposing defender doesn't sag way under the pick, but Felton also has to realize that when there are 16 seconds in the shotclock left he can run another PnR set and see if he can get a better shot for his teammates or self.

Also, no giving Amare the ball on the move outside of the 3point area, bad things always happen: 1/3 of the time he gets a charge, 1/3 of the time he gets a TO.

When giving Timo passes, you need eye contact and/or a near perfect or simple passable ball to him, did you see the 12-foot-high whip pass? Just as Timo was starting to turn his head? You learn to not make that pass in college or high school.

Felton gives up once he is screened; never recovers quickly.

THis is all about playing within his game and also playing within his teammates' game; this is what separates Deron, CP3, Kidd, Nash from Felton, Baron, Harris, etc. outside of athleticism: decision-making.

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2/17/2011  3:46 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:All the Knicks killed it last night except for Felton. I still don't think he's the answer.

Still infatuated with Maynor, but I don't know what it would take to get him. Chandler still really needs to be traded if he's not going to be re-signed.

I've been posting for a while that there should be a fit between the Knicks prospects and OKC's Mullens and Maynor. Ray and AR for Mo Pete/Mullens/Maynor would be bold and might propel both teams to the next level.

I must be watching different games from y'all but Felton had a great game last night. He was everywhere on defense and outside of Gallo and Douglas (and himself) everyone else had a great shooting night, while Felton had 11 assists. How did Felton have a bad game last night?

16 shots, 13 points - that's not good from your point guard

This guy is just as good a defender and a more natural PnR guard.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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2/17/2011  3:57 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:All the Knicks killed it last night except for Felton. I still don't think he's the answer.

Still infatuated with Maynor, but I don't know what it would take to get him. Chandler still really needs to be traded if he's not going to be re-signed.

I've been posting for a while that there should be a fit between the Knicks prospects and OKC's Mullens and Maynor. Ray and AR for Mo Pete/Mullens/Maynor would be bold and might propel both teams to the next level.

I must be watching different games from y'all but Felton had a great game last night. He was everywhere on defense and outside of Gallo and Douglas (and himself) everyone else had a great shooting night, while Felton had 11 assists. How did Felton have a bad game last night?

i'm with you SC, i don't see how u can complain about Felton's play last night, he was orchestrating the offense getting other guys involved, not trying to do too much on isolation, there was solid ball movement throughout the game & guys weren't just settling for chucking up 3's all game long as we've seen in other games they've lost this season... his shooting could be better but all in all i think he was 1 of the reasons we won last night, we didn't win in spite of him.

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