2012 Amare makes $20mm. Melo would be more than $20mm. Mosgov (if not traded) makes $2.7mm

So we have $45mm sucked up there.

Am I missing something? Where is the max cap space to sign Chris Paul, Dwight Howard or Deron Williams

fishmike wrote:If we trade for Melo is the assumption that he's signing the 3 year $65mm extension that Denver has on the table for him?

2012 Amare makes $20mm. Melo would be more than $20mm. Mosgov (if not traded) makes $2.7mm

So we have $45mm sucked up there.

Am I missing something? Where is the max cap space to sign Chris Paul, Dwight Howard or Deron Williams

I just asked the same question in another thread...And why are we so in a hurry to get rid of Felton??

Nalod wrote:Superfriends took a pay cut to be in that boy band.

I don't see happening here. Amare is max and Melo seems to want nothing to do with a pay cut,

I see This year as the Celts last stand and Miami is very thin.

East can be had next year but I think the way to beat miami is to do it with depth. Run them down.

Felton gives you a lot of what Paul does but he needs a backup.

My fear is if we bring in Paul (if even possible) and play him big minutes in SSOL ball he too will wear out.

SSOL requires depth.

Totally agree..

All of u are stressing for no reason.. He's going to the Nets come trading deadline..

BigSm00th wrote:MDA only plays 6 guys anyway.

BUt look at what depth gives you.

Mozzy was able to grow on the bench, Williams promoted himself. AR was a big piece coming in and depth allowed us to not have to play him.

fishmike wrote:This is my line up to compete w/ the elite:
PG Felton
SG Melo
SF Gallo
PF Amare
C Mosgov
bench: Douglas, Turiaf, Williams

That's an interesting starting lineup and reserves list. Losing Chandler and Fields kind of hurts though...

fishmike wrote:

grillco wrote:

fishmike wrote:This is my line up to compete w/ the elite:
PG Felton
SG Melo
SF Gallo
PF Amare
C Mosgov
bench: Douglas, Turiaf, Williams

That's an interesting starting lineup and reserves list. Losing Chandler and Fields kind of hurts though...

sure it hurts... but you get Melo back. Dude's an elite scorer. Lets see him play next to another star.

Chandler and Fields are so much easier to replace than Gallo and Mosgov. People have no idea how lucky we got to have Mosgov. Dudes getting better all the time and having a positive impact on games. Thabeet is one year younger and was the 2nd pick in the draft and the dude is terrible. We got Mosgov for cash. Wow.

Damn you and your sound logic!!!

Bippity10 wrote:Yeah, people need to be banged over the head with something before they see it. When Mozgov figures out teh US game he is going to be a very good center. YOu can already see it.

At this point it looks like Mosgov is a nice fill the stat sheet type center with nice skills and great size. A 12ppg, 10 rebound, 2 blocks, shoot 55% in 28-32 minutes type of guy, and thats the down side. The upside? Well I would say its pretty good... leave it at that

fishmike wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Yeah, people need to be banged over the head with something before they see it. When Mozgov figures out teh US game he is going to be a very good center. YOu can already see it.

he's got a rare combo of physical tools, already present skills, work ethic, desire and passion for the game. If Eddie Curry had Mosgov's focus and work ethic he would be Shaq. This stuff matters and counts.

At this point it looks like Mosgov is a nice fill the stat sheet type center with nice skills and great size. A 12ppg, 10 rebound, 2 blocks, shoot 55% in 28-32 minutes type of guy, and thats the down side. The upside? Well I would say its pretty good... leave it at that

Can't say i didn't look at curry with same forcast for his future 4 years ago.

When it comes to big men, they usually start out dominating and become unguardable, mosgov is in the same boat as Spencer hawes and kristic, he's no more then a good back up

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Yeah, people need to be banged over the head with something before they see it. When Mozgov figures out teh US game he is going to be a very good center. YOu can already see it.

he's got a rare combo of physical tools, already present skills, work ethic, desire and passion for the game. If Eddie Curry had Mosgov's focus and work ethic he would be Shaq. This stuff matters and counts.

At this point it looks like Mosgov is a nice fill the stat sheet type center with nice skills and great size. A 12ppg, 10 rebound, 2 blocks, shoot 55% in 28-32 minutes type of guy, and thats the down side. The upside? Well I would say its pretty good... leave it at that

So the question for me for you and Bip and everyone is this: is he good enough of a defensive C to cover the mistakes and weaknesses of Amare, Melo to get the Knicks past second round?

I think his downside is 10/8/1.5 and he should pan out towards 14/10/2 at 35 minutes. I am most impressed with his motor, willingness to get better and 15" jumpshot.

Mos has confidence issues and gets down on himself, but your right, he's got a great motor, skills and work ethic.

If you think about it the future hinges on Mos as much as any player we have for those reasons. Its possible he can fail, but when he did already what happened? He worked harder and came back better. If thats not the sign of a guy who can make it in this league what is?

He's no softy... tell you that.

I really think the key to competing for a title is get Melo while keeping Mos and Gallo. Thats the mix of size and skill the GREAT teams have.

Yes... Mos has shown me enough to make that investment in terms of patience and keeping the position open enough for him to keep those minutes.