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2/1/2011  5:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  5:55 PM
NEWARK, N.J. -- In the arena he could have called his temporary home, Carmelo Anthony added another layer of intrigue to the ongoing MeloDrama by saying he never received a text message from Amare Stoudemire telling him he wants Anthony to play alongside him in New York.
"I've read that, that he supposedly texted me," Anthony said after scoring 37 points in a 115-99 loss to the New Jersey Nets. "I didn't get it. I didn't get that text."

Anthony's comment refuted a report by Yahoo! Sports from mid-January that the Knicks All-Star forward had reached out to Anthony via text message after hearing Anthony express doubts that the Knicks even wanted him. But Anthony limited his comments Monday night to whether a text message was sent and/or received, and he did not address whether he had spoken with any members of the Knicks.

New York has continued to pursue a trade for Anthony, knowing they are Anthony's preferred destination, but neither Anthony nor Denver coach George Karl would assign a probability percentage regarding where they expect the four-time All-Star to be playing on Feb. 25 -- the day after the NBA trade deadline.

Monday night's loss ended a 3-2 Eastern road swing for the Nuggets, dropping their record to 28-20. They remain in playoff position in the Western Conference, and both Anthony and coach George Karl spoke of the possibility that Anthony may end up finishing the season in Denver before re-assessing his options.

"I have always felt from the way beginning of the season that the chance of that happening was far greater than all you all thought -- of being with our team the whole year," Karl said. "I just felt that way from the first day of training camp, from September, I've always felt that way. I'm trying to be prepared for anything, but if that happens we can get excited about being a very, very good team.

Asked why he believes an Anthony trade is not a fait accompli, Karl responded: "Just my experiences in the NBA. Making a big trade in the middle of the season is not an easy thing to do."

Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri and vice team president John Kroenke attended Monday night's game, but Anthony said he hadn't spoken to either of them in recent days about new developments.

Anthony all but closed the door on the possibility of being dealt to the New Jersey Nets, saying Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov seemed genuine when he pulled the Nets out of the bidding nearly two weeks ago, bringing an abrupt halt to multi-team trade talks that had been ongoing since the beginning of training camp.
"Prokhorov took a load off a lot of guys on the Nets and the Nuggets, and now guys can just go out there and play and see what's the next steps from here," Anthony said. "He took a real strong stance by holding that press conference straight off the plane. Obviously, he felt strongly that this wasn't going to happen."
One of the suspected reasons for the end of trade talks with the Nets was Anthony's supposed disinterest in meeting with New Jersey's brass, a rumor refuted by Anthony on Monday.
"I would take that meeting. As far as anything else, I really can't speak on that," Anthony said while remaining non-commital about his desire to sign an extension with Denver before playing for the Nets.

"I really don't know where that came from, as far as if I was to come here the extension wasn't going to be signed. I really don't know who started that," Anthony said. "There's a lot of things that are being said out there that I don't know where they came from. Sources, I guess. As far as the extension, if that trade were to go through, who knows what would've happened. I can't really answer that."

Asked what he believes the next step may be, Anthony pleaded ignorance.

The Nuggets have been exploring trade options because they fear losing Anthony with nothing in return if he opts out of his contract after this season and becomes an unrestricted free agent. But nobody in the NBA knows what the free agency rules will be when a new collective bargaining agreement is in place, and Anthony could be risking several million dollars if he indeed opts out of the $18 million he is due to receive next year and refuses to sign the nearly $65 million, three-year extension that would keep him under contract through the 2014-15 season.

"The CBA is in the back of my mind, but as far as being a free agent to play this out, if that's what it's going to take, then so be it. I'm with that," Anthony said. "If it's playing this year out and then going back to the drawing table, sitting down with Denver and trying to figure it out, or if I basically move on, I'm willing to do that.
"If I sit here and say I'm willing to lose 15 or 20 million dollars, I'd be lying to you," Anthony said. "But at the same time this has never been about money. In my career so far I think I've made enough money. Now I'm focused on trying to win a championship. That's the only thing that's on my plate and on my mind right now."

The Nets did have one surprise awaiting Anthony when Denver's team bus arrived.

Placed strategically along the hallway leading to the visiting locker room, and again in the hallway leading from the locker room to the court, were poster-sized artists' renditions of what the Nets' new arena in Brooklyn will look like when completed, plus one photo showing the construction progress made thus far.
"That was interesting," Anthony said. "That was interesting."

Source:http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6078092

LOL Carmelo dropping more quotes as the deadline approaches.

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2/1/2011  5:46 PM
where does he nix any knicks talk or is this you putting your own spin on it?
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2/1/2011  5:55 PM
That was the title of the article.
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2/1/2011  5:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  6:12 PM
nyk4ever wrote:where does he nix any knicks talk or is this you putting your own spin on it?

They used a misleading headline in the original article. Melo putting some pressure on the Nuggets with his willingness to take this to free agency. Let's hope he isn't bluffing.

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2/1/2011  5:58 PM
AnubisADL wrote:That was the title of the article.

ah ok, thanks for clearing that up. chris sheriden is putting his own spin on his own article then becuase he didn't write anything about the knicks.

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2/1/2011  6:11 PM
Chris Sheridan is a jerkoff that picked the Celtics to win it all last year. So we all know he's full of shyt.
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2/1/2011  6:17 PM
does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?
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2/1/2011  6:19 PM
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.

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2/1/2011  6:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  6:24 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.

just that some of Melo's quotes about him not wanting to come here & ruining what the Knicks have got going a few weeks ago when the press was openly questioning whether or not he'd make this team better & after Amare came out w/those comments about not needing to add too much to get this team to the next level... i wonder what he & Amare have spoken about behind the scenes, if they have at all, about his potentially joining up w/the Knicks.

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JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.


I wouldn't think so, especially after his wedding over the summer. I think STAT has made it known that he wants Melo. I just think Melo is having a tough time sifting through all the crap that's been splattered by the media the past couple of months...even if he's responsible for a third of it.
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2/1/2011  6:29 PM
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.

just that some of Melo's quotes about him not wanting to come here & ruining what the Knicks have got going a few weeks ago when the press was openly questioning whether or not he'd make this team better... i wonder what he & Amare have spoken about behind the scenes, if they have at all, about his potentially joining up w/the Knicks.

Melo and Amar'e are no fools, far from it. They BOTH know Carmelo on this team makes them a bigtime Eastern Conference threat. I think the press always has some sort of influence on how stars would be willing to adjust with one another. If he and Amar'e have spoken to one another, hopefully its been about winning and nothing else. Both Amar'e and Melo are at the point of their careers where winning should supercedes any individual accomplishment.

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2/1/2011  6:34 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.

just that some of Melo's quotes about him not wanting to come here & ruining what the Knicks have got going a few weeks ago when the press was openly questioning whether or not he'd make this team better... i wonder what he & Amare have spoken about behind the scenes, if they have at all, about his potentially joining up w/the Knicks.

Melo and Amar'e are no fools, far from it. They BOTH know Carmelo on this team makes them a bigtime Eastern Conference threat. I think the press always has some sort of influence on how stars would be willing to adjust with one another. If he and Amar'e have spoken to one another, hopefully its been about winning and nothing else. Both Amar'e and Melo are at the point of their careers where winning should supercedes any individual accomplishment.

i would hope so, but u never know w/the ego's of today's athletes... just thinking maybe Amare is happy with the team he's got & the chemistry they've got going w/him being the unquestioned leader & main offensive option & doesn't want to ruin what he's got going here by bringing in another top flight scorer to steal some of his thunder?... probably reading way too deep into this on my part, just throwing it out there for consideration.

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2/1/2011  6:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  6:43 PM
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.

just that some of Melo's quotes about him not wanting to come here & ruining what the Knicks have got going a few weeks ago when the press was openly questioning whether or not he'd make this team better... i wonder what he & Amare have spoken about behind the scenes, if they have at all, about his potentially joining up w/the Knicks.

Melo and Amar'e are no fools, far from it. They BOTH know Carmelo on this team makes them a bigtime Eastern Conference threat. I think the press always has some sort of influence on how stars would be willing to adjust with one another. If he and Amar'e have spoken to one another, hopefully its been about winning and nothing else. Both Amar'e and Melo are at the point of their careers where winning should supercedes any individual accomplishment.

i would hope so, but u never know w/the ego's of today's athletes... just thinking maybe Amare is happy with the team he's got & the chemistry they've got going w/him being the unquestioned leader & main offensive option & doesn't want to ruin what he's got going here by bringing in another top flight scorer to steal some of his thunder?... probably reading way too deep into this on my part, just throwing it out there for consideration.

I agree with you, which is why I mentioned ego issues in my inital post. I think the most successful teams come from teams that have very defined roles, such as Jordan and Pippen (where Scottie knew he could never overcome Jordan's skill and mentality on the basketball court). Between Amar'e and Melo, its a little closer, which is why Melo could be contemplating a move to NYC.

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If nets were done they would not put those pictures out for him to see.

Sounds like he wants that meeting.

Melo would be stupid to discuss Amare or any texts.

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2/1/2011  6:51 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.

just that some of Melo's quotes about him not wanting to come here & ruining what the Knicks have got going a few weeks ago when the press was openly questioning whether or not he'd make this team better... i wonder what he & Amare have spoken about behind the scenes, if they have at all, about his potentially joining up w/the Knicks.

Melo and Amar'e are no fools, far from it. They BOTH know Carmelo on this team makes them a bigtime Eastern Conference threat. I think the press always has some sort of influence on how stars would be willing to adjust with one another. If he and Amar'e have spoken to one another, hopefully its been about winning and nothing else. Both Amar'e and Melo are at the point of their careers where winning should supercedes any individual accomplishment.

i would hope so, but u never know w/the ego's of today's athletes... just thinking maybe Amare is happy with the team he's got & the chemistry they've got going w/him being the unquestioned leader & main offensive option & doesn't want to ruin what he's got going here by bringing in another top flight scorer to steal some of his thunder?... probably reading way too deep into this on my part, just throwing it out there for consideration.

I agree with you, which is why I mentioned ego issues in my inital post. I think the most successful teams come from teams that have very defined roles, such as Jordan and Pippen (where Scottie knew he could never overcome Jordan's skill and mentality on the basketball court). Between Amar'e and Melo, its a little closer, which is why Melo could be contemplating a move to NYC.

just as a casual observer of this situation, i think Melo REALLY wants to be a Knick & wants to play in NYC & his wife wants that too... i'm not so sure that Amare wants him here though, but i'm probably just drawing conclusions based on unrelated quotes from him... i'm getting more & more of a sense that Donnie wants Melo to wait til free agency so he doesn't have to gut the team to get him here... & i think MDA wants that too... as a coach, how could u not want a prolific scorer like that to add to your arsenal? i think if Amare makes it clear to Melo that he wants him on this team, he's gonna be a Knick guaranteed... maybe he's done that already behind the scenes... these guys are supposedly good friends so i'm sure they've discussed the idea at some point.

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2/1/2011  7:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  7:02 PM
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:does anyone get the feeling Melo isn't sure whether Amare even wants him playing on the Knicks next year?

Yea. I'm sure Melo feels that. With the amount of money these guys make, their ego questions every basketball decision they make.

Melo is asking himself if he wants to be Amar'e second banana every night before bed.

just that some of Melo's quotes about him not wanting to come here & ruining what the Knicks have got going a few weeks ago when the press was openly questioning whether or not he'd make this team better... i wonder what he & Amare have spoken about behind the scenes, if they have at all, about his potentially joining up w/the Knicks.

Melo and Amar'e are no fools, far from it. They BOTH know Carmelo on this team makes them a bigtime Eastern Conference threat. I think the press always has some sort of influence on how stars would be willing to adjust with one another. If he and Amar'e have spoken to one another, hopefully its been about winning and nothing else. Both Amar'e and Melo are at the point of their careers where winning should supercedes any individual accomplishment.

i would hope so, but u never know w/the ego's of today's athletes... just thinking maybe Amare is happy with the team he's got & the chemistry they've got going w/him being the unquestioned leader & main offensive option & doesn't want to ruin what he's got going here by bringing in another top flight scorer to steal some of his thunder?... probably reading way too deep into this on my part, just throwing it out there for consideration.

I agree with you, which is why I mentioned ego issues in my inital post. I think the most successful teams come from teams that have very defined roles, such as Jordan and Pippen (where Scottie knew he could never overcome Jordan's skill and mentality on the basketball court). Between Amar'e and Melo, its a little closer, which is why Melo could be contemplating a move to NYC.

just as a casual observer of this situation, i think Melo REALLY wants to be a Knick & wants to play in NYC & his wife wants that too... i'm not so sure that Amare wants him here though, but i'm probably just drawing conclusions based on unrelated quotes from him... i'm getting more & more of a sense that Donnie wants Melo to wait til free agency so he doesn't have to gut the team to get him here... & i think MDA wants that too... as a coach, how could u not want a prolific scorer like that to add to your arsenal? i think if Amare makes it clear to Melo that he wants him on this team, he's gonna be a Knick guaranteed... maybe he's done that already behind the scenes... these guys are supposedly good friends so i'm sure they've discussed the idea at some point.

Melo signing with this team as a FA clearly has more of an impact as opposed to gutting the team and then signing him. But at the same time, Amar'e needs help while he is in his prime. And he wants to win. If the Melo to NJ rumors or elsewhere continue to evolve, Donnie will have more of a tougher decision to make. But either way, I've always been a supporter of Melo, because I believe we're better with him signing through free agency or via trade. None of our young players have showed a ridiculous amount of breakout potential even though they're highly talented.

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2/1/2011  7:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  7:05 PM
i agree w/u 1000% dude... i think there's value to be had in getting Melo here now rather than waiting it out... in the end it's DW's call... we'll just have to live w/whatever decision he makes & hope for the best... i think Melo's gonna be a Knick sooner or later though.
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The league needs to stop the collusion of players wanting to form their own AAU style super teams. From an owners perspective I can understand. The Free Agent rules already handicap's movement and I doubt they can do more. If there is a franchise tag style system Melo might be forced to stay. He can stay one more year at 18mm and see what happens.

Staying in Denver without the extension is possible.

Tough for any fan to read this accurate. He says all the right things but he is not going to take a 20mm pay cut even though its not "about money, its about championships".

Simple. Not about money, go free agent to a team that has cap space in a city you want to play for and has a good roster. About money, play for a team that will trade for you but you might suck. Or stay in Denver.

I put a 33% chance he is a knick.

Prokhrov saves face by getting a trade for less than what was on the table two weeks ago. Denver can still do a better deal with them than knicks likely want to go.

Some one is going to win and someone is going to lose. Someone overpays. Warky helps us do a deep mindphuch on Denver but thats no guarantee of anything.

66% chance he does not take his talents to broadway. Nalod wants Melo at the right price. I have a strict no starphuching rule.

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The league needs to stop the collusion of players wanting to form their own AAU style super teams. From an owners perspective I can understand. The Free Agent rules already handicap's movement and I doubt they can do more. If there is a franchise tag style system Melo might be forced to stay. He can stay one more year at 18mm and see what happens.

Staying in Denver without the extension is possible.

Tough for any fan to read this accurate. He says all the right things but he is not going to take a 20mm pay cut even though its not "about money, its about championships".

Simple. Not about money, go free agent to a team that has cap space in a city you want to play for and has a good roster. About money, play for a team that will trade for you but you might suck. Or stay in Denver.

I put a 33% chance he is a knick.

Prokhrov saves face by getting a trade for less than what was on the table two weeks ago. Denver can still do a better deal with them than knicks likely want to go.

Some one is going to win and someone is going to lose. Someone overpays. Warky helps us do a deep mindphuch on Denver but thats no guarantee of anything.

66% chance he does not take his talents to broadway. Nalod wants Melo at the right price. I have a strict no starphuching rule.

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