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2/1/2011  1:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  1:44 PM
I didn't see this posted elsewhere.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/sports/basketball/01knicks.html?_r=1&ref=sports

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Walsh Eager to Finish Job, if Knicks Let Him
By HOWARD BECK
Published: January 31, 2011

From his elevated perch in the final row of Section 16, Donnie Walsh’s view is clean, unobstructed and thoroughly enjoyable.

Amar’e Stoudemire, the charismatic star he signed last summer, is dunking and delighting the Madison Square Garden crowd. Raymond Felton, the deft point guard, is threading passes in the lane. Danilo Gallinari is flinging 3-pointers. Landry Fields is pouncing on stray balls. And Timofey Mozgov, the towering Russian rookie, has suddenly morphed into Patrick Ewing, inspiring raucous chants of “Moz-gov!”

The Garden is alive. The Knicks are thriving. Walsh, the 69-year-old team president, should be beaming.

Walsh constructed this team, the Knicks’ best in a decade, practically from scratch over the last two years.

He extricated the franchise from years of misery and mismanagement and restored respect.

The Knicks are relevant again, competitive, entertaining, worthwhile — worth smiling about, even. But Walsh has been an executive too long to indulge his pride, at least in January.

“I love a lot of the games I see them play,” Walsh, sitting closer to the court, said before a victory over the Detroit Pistons on Sunday.

“But I always reserve to the end of the year to see what happens.”

Wait-and-see is part of Walsh’s nature, but it may also be a matter of practicality. Walsh’s contract expires June 30, and he has received no indication from ownership that he will be retained. The team has until April 30 to pick up Walsh’s option for the 2011-12 season.

It would be shocking if the Knicks let Walsh walk away, but the Garden chairman, James L. Dolan, is famously unpredictable. Those inside or outside the Garden are unsure what his thoughts are regarding Walsh.

Dolan has not spoken to reporters in four years. A Garden spokesman declined to comment on Dolan’s intentions regarding Walsh.

“As a policy, we don’t comment on anybody’s contractual situation,” said the spokesman, Barry Watkins, the Garden’s executive vice president for communications.

The ambiguity surrounding Walsh’s status is creating unease among some Knicks officials and employees, who revere the New York-born Walsh for saving the franchise from the humiliation of the Isiah Thomas era.

There are fears, as well, that Dolan will attempt to bring Thomas back to run the team. Dolan tried to hire Thomas as a consultant last August — over Walsh’s objections — but the arrangement was nullified by the N.B.A. because Thomas, as the coach at Florida International University, has a conflict of interest.

Walsh replaced Thomas in April 2008, at the behest of Commissioner David Stern. But if Thomas resigns his coaching job, there is nothing to prevent Dolan from bringing him back.

In the meantime, Walsh seems to have full authority to continue shaping the front office. This season, he promoted Allan Houston (a potential heir) to assistant general manager. He is in the process of hiring Mark Warkentien, the former Denver Nuggets general manager, to bolster the scouting operation. Warkentien will be named assistant to the president — the title that Houston previously held.

Team officials insist that Warkentien’s arrival has nothing to do with the Carmelo Anthony trade talks or with Walsh’s future. But Warkentien clearly has the experience to run the team if Walsh is pushed out.

If Walsh is troubled by the uncertainty and the speculation, he will not say so. But then, Walsh generally disdains attention and articles about him. When it was suggested that fans might take up his cause in the coming months, Walsh cringed.

He said he would not ask to have his situation clarified.

“I never have; I don’t think about that,” Walsh said, but he confirmed that he wanted to continue. “If I’m the right guy, probably. But I’m not in charge of that, so I don’t worry about it. I feel good at this point, about how this has gone for the Knicks.”

Despite undergoing hip and neck operations last year, Walsh remains energetic and committed. And there is work to be done, to take the Knicks from a probable playoff team to a contender.

At 25-22, the Knicks are seven wins better than they were through 47 games last season. They have already won more games than they did under Thomas in 2007-8, and with a payroll (about $58 million) that is half of what it was during the Thomas era. They are on pace for 44 victories, their highest total since 2000-1.

They are doing it with a roster built almost entirely by Walsh, who spent two years stripping the payroll to make this rebirth possible. He acquired every significant player except Wilson Chandler (who was drafted by Thomas).

Stoudemire is the best player to wear a Knicks uniform since Ewing was in his prime. Felton is the Knicks’ best point guard in more than a decade. Fields, a second-round pick, is one of the league’s top rookies. Gallinari is blossoming.

Although Pat Riley is a virtual lock to win executive of the year, Walsh will be on any shortlist of candidates. Barring a sudden collapse, the Knicks will be playing deep into April, perhaps with a lame duck in the front office.

“I see the beginning of a team that I think can end up being a contending team someday,” Walsh said. “And I see the kind of guys that I think should represent the city and the franchise.”

He is too modest to say the same of himself and too experienced to fret about job security.

“It’s not that,” Walsh corrected. “It’s that — how do I say it? — it might be nice to live a real life. So I’m O.K. with that.”

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2/1/2011  1:45 PM
It's scary to think that the possibility of Dolan not picking up Walsh's option and bringing Isiah back actually looms.
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2/1/2011  1:48 PM
If it happens, Knick fans should go viral on Dolan.
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2/1/2011  1:52 PM
If Walsh is not renewed, there will be blood.

I mean, seriously, he's the organization's White Knight. And it's not like he's geting ousted by a Black Knight like Gordon Gecko... he'd be getting outsed by a con man

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2/1/2011  1:52 PM
my guess is that there is no time and no reason for either Dolan or Walsh to talk extension until after this years' trade deadline passes. No worries, it makes sense for both sides.
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2/1/2011  1:54 PM
Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

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2/1/2011  1:55 PM
Knicks finish 6th in east he should be exec of the year! Masterful job!
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2/1/2011  1:56 PM
Nalod wrote:Knicks finish 6th in east he should be exec of the year! Masterful job!

Either him... or Dwayne Wade.

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2/1/2011  1:57 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

The plan was always to shed contracts to be in play for the greatest FA era of our time. No getting around it or painting it differently.

2 year free pass? As if there was another option?

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2/1/2011  2:03 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

Why do you insist that the two years was only about Lebron? Donnie never said that in any way. Sure, we wanted to take a run at Lebron, but it was never a lock. Donnie said he wanted to build a contender, and he's doing exactly that. LeDouche can suck an egg in South Beach. Donnie Walnuts is the man, regardless of the attitudes of overly cynical NYK fans.

However, he is old, and part of the rebirth of our team should be bringing youth and vigor to the front office. I don't know much about Warentien, but that's probably a move in the Bye Bye Donnie saga. Dolan will pick up his option, then MAYBE extend him one year to see everything through. He deserves as much for rescuing the Knicks from embarrasing themselves with Isaiah.

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martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

The plan was always to shed contracts to be in play for the greatest FA era of our time. No getting around it or painting it differently.

2 year free pass? As if there was another option?

Dolan did not approve wasting to years for Amare or Chris Bosh. Summer 2010 was all about Lebron from day one.

Oh and why was it the greatest FA summer of all time? Because Wade and Lebron James were potentially available.

There are ALWAYS multiple options.

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2/1/2011  2:09 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

The plan was always to shed contracts to be in play for the greatest FA era of our time. No getting around it or painting it differently.

2 year free pass? As if there was another option?

Dolan did not approve wasting to years for Amare or Chris Bosh. Summer 2010 was all about Lebron from day one.

Oh and why was it the greatest FA summer of all time? Because Wade and Lebron James were potentially available.

There are ALWAYS multiple options.

you are making that up, and then the rest of your post doesn't make sense.

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2/1/2011  2:09 PM
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Nalod wrote:Knicks finish 6th in east he should be exec of the year! Masterful job!

Either him... or Dwayne Wade.

lol... it's funny because it's so true

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2/1/2011  2:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  2:11 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

The plan was always to shed contracts to be in play for the greatest FA era of our time. No getting around it or painting it differently.

2 year free pass? As if there was another option?

Dolan did not approve wasting to years for Amare or Chris Bosh. Summer 2010 was all about Lebron from day one.

Oh and why was it the greatest FA summer of all time? Because Wade and Lebron James were potentially available.

There are ALWAYS multiple options.

No doubt Lebron was the main objective, but it was never the only one. Dolan is a dummy, but even he realizes that the Knicks didn't have mind control over Lebron. The overarching objective was to fix what Isaiah broke, and Donnie has done that in a most exemplary fashion. Knicks are ballin' again, and it's fun enough to watch every single game this season. We add Melo as a FA, trade the guys we have to renounce, and we are contending for the next 5-10 years... as planned.

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AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

Why do you insist that the two years was only about Lebron? Donnie never said that in any way. Sure, we wanted to take a run at Lebron, but it was never a lock. Donnie said he wanted to build a contender, and he's doing exactly that. LeDouche can suck an egg in South Beach. Donnie Walnuts is the man, regardless of the attitudes of overly cynical NYK fans.

However, he is old, and part of the rebirth of our team should be bringing youth and vigor to the front office. I don't know much about Warentien, but that's probably a move in the Bye Bye Donnie saga. Dolan will pick up his option, then MAYBE extend him one year to see everything through. He deserves as much for rescuing the Knicks from embarrasing themselves with Isaiah.

Walsh didnt need to say anything. Giving away players like Crawford and Randolph for scrubs kind of implies you arent trying to win.

You can sip the koolaid all you like but fact is we are 6th in the East and our star player wears Allan Houston style sized ice pads on his surgically repaired knees most games.

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2/1/2011  2:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  2:15 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

Why do you insist that the two years was only about Lebron? Donnie never said that in any way. Sure, we wanted to take a run at Lebron, but it was never a lock. Donnie said he wanted to build a contender, and he's doing exactly that. LeDouche can suck an egg in South Beach. Donnie Walnuts is the man, regardless of the attitudes of overly cynical NYK fans.

However, he is old, and part of the rebirth of our team should be bringing youth and vigor to the front office. I don't know much about Warentien, but that's probably a move in the Bye Bye Donnie saga. Dolan will pick up his option, then MAYBE extend him one year to see everything through. He deserves as much for rescuing the Knicks from embarrasing themselves with Isaiah.

Walsh didnt need to say anything. Giving away players like Crawford and Randolph for scrubs kind of implies you arent trying to win.

You can sip the koolaid all you like but fact is we are 6th in the East and our star player wears Allan Houston style sized ice pads on his surgically repaired knees most games.

As do MANY players in the NBA. Ice helps reduce swelling, eliminate pain and maintain range of motion. I used ice after games for years because of these prophylactic benefits. It doesn't mean shyte about Amare other than that he needs these benefits. He is bringing it every game at near MVP level. What else would you ask of him?

Donnie saved this franchise, why can't you buy into this direction for our team? I never sensed from you that it was always Lebron or bust?

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2/1/2011  2:28 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

Why do you insist that the two years was only about Lebron? Donnie never said that in any way. Sure, we wanted to take a run at Lebron, but it was never a lock. Donnie said he wanted to build a contender, and he's doing exactly that. LeDouche can suck an egg in South Beach. Donnie Walnuts is the man, regardless of the attitudes of overly cynical NYK fans.

However, he is old, and part of the rebirth of our team should be bringing youth and vigor to the front office. I don't know much about Warentien, but that's probably a move in the Bye Bye Donnie saga. Dolan will pick up his option, then MAYBE extend him one year to see everything through. He deserves as much for rescuing the Knicks from embarrasing themselves with Isaiah.

Walsh didnt need to say anything. Giving away players like Crawford and Randolph for scrubs kind of implies you arent trying to win.

You can sip the koolaid all you like but fact is we are 6th in the East and our star player wears Allan Houston style sized ice pads on his surgically repaired knees most games.

No, it doesn't. There is a business concept of synergy. Synergy basically means the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. Similarly, there is a concept of negative synergy. That the parts are worth more if they are split up.

That's why big companies spin units off to be their own company. These businesses don't see a scent from that transaction, but management has deemed that keeping them poses an operational cost. Just by simply letting them go value is realized.

Similarly, acquiring Steve Francis to play in the same backcourt as Stephon Marbury doesn't necessarily imply that you are trying to win or that you will win.

Now, I'm not saying walsh's strategic business outcome here was to net more wins by giving those players up. What I'm saying is your assumptions are flat out wrong.

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Moonangie wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

Why do you insist that the two years was only about Lebron? Donnie never said that in any way. Sure, we wanted to take a run at Lebron, but it was never a lock. Donnie said he wanted to build a contender, and he's doing exactly that. LeDouche can suck an egg in South Beach. Donnie Walnuts is the man, regardless of the attitudes of overly cynical NYK fans.

However, he is old, and part of the rebirth of our team should be bringing youth and vigor to the front office. I don't know much about Warentien, but that's probably a move in the Bye Bye Donnie saga. Dolan will pick up his option, then MAYBE extend him one year to see everything through. He deserves as much for rescuing the Knicks from embarrasing themselves with Isaiah.

Walsh didnt need to say anything. Giving away players like Crawford and Randolph for scrubs kind of implies you arent trying to win.

You can sip the koolaid all you like but fact is we are 6th in the East and our star player wears Allan Houston style sized ice pads on his surgically repaired knees most games.

As do MANY players in the NBA. Ice helps reduce swelling, eliminate pain and maintain range of motion. I used ice after games for years because of these prophylactic benefits. It doesn't mean shyte about Amare other than that he needs these benefits. He is bringing it every game at near MVP level. What else would you ask of him?

Donnie saved this franchise, why can't you buy into this direction for our team? I never sensed from you that it was always Lebron or bust?

Im not talking about after game treatment. Most guys arent sitting on the bench with Massive ice packs wrapped around their knees.

I was never Lebron or bust. The thing is we signed Amare to a 100 million dollar deal. Reality is athletic guys begin to fall off as they get near 30 and isnt always a slow decline.

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SupremeCommander wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

Why do you insist that the two years was only about Lebron? Donnie never said that in any way. Sure, we wanted to take a run at Lebron, but it was never a lock. Donnie said he wanted to build a contender, and he's doing exactly that. LeDouche can suck an egg in South Beach. Donnie Walnuts is the man, regardless of the attitudes of overly cynical NYK fans.

However, he is old, and part of the rebirth of our team should be bringing youth and vigor to the front office. I don't know much about Warentien, but that's probably a move in the Bye Bye Donnie saga. Dolan will pick up his option, then MAYBE extend him one year to see everything through. He deserves as much for rescuing the Knicks from embarrasing themselves with Isaiah.

Walsh didnt need to say anything. Giving away players like Crawford and Randolph for scrubs kind of implies you arent trying to win.

You can sip the koolaid all you like but fact is we are 6th in the East and our star player wears Allan Houston style sized ice pads on his surgically repaired knees most games.

No, it doesn't. There is a business concept of synergy. Synergy basically means the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. Similarly, there is a concept of negative synergy. That the parts are worth more if they are split up.

That's why big companies spin units off to be their own company. These businesses don't see a scent from that transaction, but management has deemed that keeping them poses an operational cost. Just by simply letting them go value is realized.

Similarly, acquiring Steve Francis to play in the same backcourt as Stephon Marbury doesn't necessarily imply that you are trying to win or that you will win.

Now, I'm not saying walsh's strategic business outcome here was to net more wins by giving those players up. What I'm saying is your assumptions are flat out wrong.

Walsh made the trades to clear cap space.

This is the problem I have here. Why try to re-write history since we didnt get Lebron this summer.

"I think that opening up cap space down the road for us is a big plus on our side and I hope our fans understand that that can give us an opportunity to make the team better according to the plan that I've outlined," Walsh said on a conference call. "So I'm trying to be true to what I said from day one, and that's what I'm doing."

............................

Yet it's clear that future financial flexibility, more than Harrington's potential on-court impact, is foremost in Walsh's thoughts, given how quickly he has parted with two of the most effective contributors in New York's surprising 6-5 start.

"I think this is an unfortunate time to make this kind of trade because you're introducing three new players into the system and in addition to that you're taking out the two guys who are our most successful players in the beginning of the season in Zach and in Jamal," Walsh said. "So this will be a difficult time for our coach, but I think we we're all on the same page as far as trying to get this done."

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3717209


Coincidentally he trades our 2 most productive players, according to him, who just happened to have 2011 for scrubs. Yet he decided to keep Eddy Curry.

Walsh traded the 2011 salary he could move easiest ASAP for cap space. This wasn't addition by subtraction when you are getting back Harrington in a trade.

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AnubisADL wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Walsh's problem is he is old and hasnt been healthy. Plus he basically got a free pass for 2 years so we could have Lebron and company and we ended up with Amare.

Now if we finish the season strong or make noise in the playoffs he might get an extension. More likely he gets his option picked up and that is it though.

Why do you insist that the two years was only about Lebron? Donnie never said that in any way. Sure, we wanted to take a run at Lebron, but it was never a lock. Donnie said he wanted to build a contender, and he's doing exactly that. LeDouche can suck an egg in South Beach. Donnie Walnuts is the man, regardless of the attitudes of overly cynical NYK fans.

However, he is old, and part of the rebirth of our team should be bringing youth and vigor to the front office. I don't know much about Warentien, but that's probably a move in the Bye Bye Donnie saga. Dolan will pick up his option, then MAYBE extend him one year to see everything through. He deserves as much for rescuing the Knicks from embarrasing themselves with Isaiah.

Walsh didnt need to say anything. Giving away players like Crawford and Randolph for scrubs kind of implies you arent trying to win.

You can sip the koolaid all you like but fact is we are 6th in the East and our star player wears Allan Houston style sized ice pads on his surgically repaired knees most games.

No, it doesn't. There is a business concept of synergy. Synergy basically means the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. Similarly, there is a concept of negative synergy. That the parts are worth more if they are split up.

That's why big companies spin units off to be their own company. These businesses don't see a scent from that transaction, but management has deemed that keeping them poses an operational cost. Just by simply letting them go value is realized.

Similarly, acquiring Steve Francis to play in the same backcourt as Stephon Marbury doesn't necessarily imply that you are trying to win or that you will win.

Now, I'm not saying walsh's strategic business outcome here was to net more wins by giving those players up. What I'm saying is your assumptions are flat out wrong.

Walsh made the trades to clear cap space.

This is the problem I have here. Why try to re-write history since we didnt get Lebron this summer.

"I think that opening up cap space down the road for us is a big plus on our side and I hope our fans understand that that can give us an opportunity to make the team better according to the plan that I've outlined," Walsh said on a conference call. "So I'm trying to be true to what I said from day one, and that's what I'm doing."

............................

Yet it's clear that future financial flexibility, more than Harrington's potential on-court impact, is foremost in Walsh's thoughts, given how quickly he has parted with two of the most effective contributors in New York's surprising 6-5 start.

"I think this is an unfortunate time to make this kind of trade because you're introducing three new players into the system and in addition to that you're taking out the two guys who are our most successful players in the beginning of the season in Zach and in Jamal," Walsh said. "So this will be a difficult time for our coach, but I think we we're all on the same page as far as trying to get this done."

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3717209


Coincidentally he trades our 2 most productive players, according to him, who just happened to have 2011 for scrubs. Yet he decided to keep Eddy Curry.

Walsh traded the 2011 salary he could move easiest ASAP for cap space. This wasn't addition by subtraction when you are getting back Harrington in a trade.

Decided??? So you think you could have done a better job? I would have taken free agency last Summer over Zach and Craw anyday. They weren't taking us anywhere.

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