I can offer 2 #1's and 2#2's and take back balkman and throw in 3mm in cash--otherwise Im sitting it out. Im not giving them Gallo or Fields--either one.

I think it might be best for us to get an asset for Chandler--you dont want to kill a guy in a slump because hes a nice player but were not paying him 8=10mm and we have a good # of SF's

Now chandler is the odd man out..

I said this before with this season. Can't get too high or too low with these guys.. especially chandler... he is a goodplayer, and not an allstar, but definately not as bad as he has been lately..

tkf wrote:funny, weeks ago, you wanted to ship gallo out, and chandler was an allstar..

Now chandler is the odd man out..

I said this before with this season. Can't get too high or too low with these guys.. especially chandler... he is a goodplayer, and not an allstar, but definately not as bad as he has been lately..

100% Agree.

tj23 wrote:I'm really loving Gallo's improvement. He seems to be taking the next step whereas Chandler could just be slumping a little but he can't create nearly as well as Gallo right now. I can't see giving Will a big contract. I wouldnt give him more than mid level so I kinda hope we let him walk unless we get him dirt cheap. I would hate to take Gallo off of the perimeter and put him at the 4. His defense is too good. That would mean Fields would come off the bench, which wouldn't be a bad thing but we would also need a 4.

The Knicks will also be much better after the deadline when the Melo drama is over and their heads are clear. Its affecting the young guys for sure

Ira wrote:Chandler, Curry, AR and a draft pick - take it or leave it.

Word. That's the best deal from our end. Probably some wiggle room to add $$ and/or take back bad paper (e.g., Harrington). But the more I think on it, the more I realize we'd be better off turning Chandler into a big, trading TD, Turiaf and Buke for a backup PG (or Mayo if he's on the outs - can he play spot minutes at the 1?) and waiting for Melo this summer. THat's the best path forward. Denver are chumps for not trading sooner. Idiots, really.

Ira wrote:Chandler, Curry, AR and a draft pick - take it or leave it.

That sounds like an offer Donnie will make -- Walker may be in there as well. Could also include something else and take back something from Denver but your offer would be the basis of what Walsh will offer.

I don't think he offers Gallo or Fields.

In Walsh's mind -- both AR and Chandler are valuable young players. He doesn't view Chandler as a great loss though because of salary cap issues and Melo playing same position. Both Gallo and Fields are perfect compliment players -- I'm sure Walsh places a great value on both.

Now - if he can hold onto Randolph and trade say Chandler and Fields he might do it because he could use AR for something else.

LivingLegend wrote:

Ira wrote:Chandler, Curry, AR and a draft pick - take it or leave it.

That sounds like an offer Donnie will make -- Walker may be in there as well. Could also include something else and take back something from Denver but your offer would be the basis of what Walsh will offer.

I don't think he offers Gallo or Fields.

In Walsh's mind -- both AR and Chandler are valuable young players. He doesn't view Chandler as a great loss though because of salary cap issues and Melo playing same position. Both Gallo and Fields are perfect compliment players -- I'm sure Walsh places a great value on both.

Now - if he can hold onto Randolph and trade say Chandler and Fields he might do it because he could use AR for something else.

Chandler, Curry, AR, Walker, 1st round draft pick in 2013, second round draft pick in 2011 and 2012, plus $3 mill in cash. That is the most I would offer. I would stand firm on Fields. If Denver wants Gallo instead of Chandler, I would do that also.

~Henry

TheGame wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

Ira wrote:Chandler, Curry, AR and a draft pick - take it or leave it.

That sounds like an offer Donnie will make -- Walker may be in there as well. Could also include something else and take back something from Denver but your offer would be the basis of what Walsh will offer.

I don't think he offers Gallo or Fields.

In Walsh's mind -- both AR and Chandler are valuable young players. He doesn't view Chandler as a great loss though because of salary cap issues and Melo playing same position. Both Gallo and Fields are perfect compliment players -- I'm sure Walsh places a great value on both.

Now - if he can hold onto Randolph and trade say Chandler and Fields he might do it because he could use AR for something else.

Chandler, Curry, AR, Walker, 1st round draft pick in 2013, second round draft pick in 2011 and 2012, plus $3 mill in cash. That is the most I would offer. I would stand firm on Fields. If Denver wants Gallo instead of Chandler, I would do that also.

~Henry

DAMN That's a LOT

SupremeCommander wrote:

TMS wrote:our team needs a drastic upgrade in talent if we want to be serious contenders

that's it, really. I don't understand all this arguing over bit parts and role players. Hold onto as much as you can but do what you need to do to inject more elite talent into the team

Even some of the guys that supported the "give up all assets for cap space" are arguing against "give up assets for a superstar." The funny thing is if Melo gets here, the Knicks will have a better supporting cast because you then can recruit guys like Shaq and Antonio McDyess and Grant Hill

i agree... adding another star not only makes us better but also makes us more attractive destination for other guys to play for... now if someone wants to argue that we're better off waiting to sign him as a FA rather than trading for him, fine, i can buy into that logic as long as it's a done deal that Melo's gonna sign here this summer... but i can't buy into this silly notion that we're not somehow a better basketball team if we get Melo & have to give up a couple of our young guys to do it... that's like the whole David Lee at lesser dollars makes more sense than Amare at the max line of thinking... the way some guys talk about Melo around here you'd think the guy has been accumulating big statlines on horrible teams his whole career instead of the 50 win teams he's been on.