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MSG3
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1/28/2011  10:05 AM
....starring Danillo Galinari and Wilson Chandler.

Through last month I was saying that my preference was to keep Wilson had it been the Knicks choice between giving up him or Galo in any Melo deal. Obviously, Galo has really stepped up lately and Wilson has been attrocious for a while now (besides the Washington game).

I still think Wilson has better tools than Galo and is more versitile. But maybe he's showing he's got weak fortitude. Confidence was never a question with Galo, but it seems like ever since the trade talk really heated up Wilson has crawled into a shell and look slike a rookie again.

I'm really confused now as to who I would keep if the decision was mine. You take both players' peaks, and I think Wilson wins that battle. But when both players have good skill sets and potential to be great in this system, how much does swagger count for? I still say I'd be happy keeping either one if we got Melo, but I'm not as adamant about keeping Wilson anymore.

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1/28/2011  10:08 AM
they're both good players, but neither is as good as melo.

the trade stuff gets to everyone - heck melo certainly had some truly awful games when the nets talk reached that fever pitch a few weeks back.

trade deadline can't come soon enough for these knicks.

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1/28/2011  10:09 AM
I would trade both. Get Melo here using chandler or Galo. Then trade who ever is left over for a center.
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1/28/2011  10:09 AM
so wilson has a hot streak and he's untradeable and then when he goes through a lull and we want to deal him? maybe instead we should exhibit some more patience and look at the whole player instead of such small sample??
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1/28/2011  10:12 AM
Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

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1/28/2011  10:21 AM
The MSG3's point, I think Chandler had played more and the opposition may be starting to figure out how to contain him along WITH the trade rumors. Danilo has played more sporadically and has gotten over the same head issues regarding trade rumors that he was involved at the beginning of the season. I the long run, both guys are great complimentary players that are nowhere near Melo's level individually. Together they are only marginally better, if even as good, since they don't have killer games on the court together with any regularity (if at all).
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1/28/2011  10:44 AM
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

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1/28/2011  10:47 AM
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

How so? What does Chandler do that Gallo can't?

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1/28/2011  10:57 AM
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.


Fundamentally, Gallo is a better basketball player. Wil is a better athlete.

Gallo is not smooth. But he is more effiecient. He rebounds well but does not rebound often because he is on the parimeter. HIs coach tells him where to go.

Gallo is still growing and last nite he finally FELT the power of success. This should help him. He and fields came up big at the big time.

Gallo is what he is and its not a knock on WIlson nor does it diminish his skills. IF Melo should arrive and you have to pick between Gallo and WIlson Im looking at who brings what. Seems to me Melo and Wil have similar skill sets but Melo is better at it. Gallo has an intangable that I believe would work. Fields is very obvious to what he brings.

Gallo is more valuable in trade and perhaps that might be his exit visa.

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1/28/2011  10:59 AM
Danilo Gallinari doesn't have the athletic ability to make this type of plays for example.

I know the blob and fish and all the other crazy Gallinari homers who think he's Jesus won't admit this fact but he's very average athletically. That's why he double pumps and flops on most of his drives to the hoop. He doesn't have the hang-time or athletic ability to finish. The back injury hurt him. But not a big deal since he still sells the flop and get's to the line.

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1/28/2011  11:03 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

How so? What does Chandler do that Gallo can't?

Chandler is better on the fast break than Gallo. Chandler can finish when he goes to the basket. Chandler just has more athleticism.

but lately i'm starting to question Chandler's mental toughness. eh i say send em both packing for melo.

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1/28/2011  11:11 AM
SlimChin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

How so? What does Chandler do that Gallo can't?

Chandler is better on the fast break than Gallo. Chandler can finish when he goes to the basket. Chandler just has more athleticism.

but lately i'm starting to question Chandler's mental toughness. eh i say send em both packing for melo.

Wilson Chandler also has a midrange and post-up game. Danilo Gallinari doesn't. He either shoots the 3 or drives to the hoop.

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1/28/2011  11:14 AM
iSergio wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

How so? What does Chandler do that Gallo can't?

Chandler is better on the fast break than Gallo. Chandler can finish when he goes to the basket. Chandler just has more athleticism.

but lately i'm starting to question Chandler's mental toughness. eh i say send em both packing for melo.

Wilson Chandler also has a midrange and post-up game. Danilo Gallinari doesn't. He either shoots the 3 or drives to the hoop.


Yes, Wilson does the mid range things Gallo better.

But your basially saying the "highlight" dunks and ally oops make him a better player.

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1/28/2011  11:20 AM
Nalod wrote:
iSergio wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

How so? What does Chandler do that Gallo can't?

Chandler is better on the fast break than Gallo. Chandler can finish when he goes to the basket. Chandler just has more athleticism.

but lately i'm starting to question Chandler's mental toughness. eh i say send em both packing for melo.

Wilson Chandler also has a midrange and post-up game. Danilo Gallinari doesn't. He either shoots the 3 or drives to the hoop.


Yes, Wilson does the mid range things Gallo better.

But your basially saying the "highlight" dunks and ally oops make him a better player.

No I'm not. I posted those vids to show that Wilson Chandler is better athletically. I'm not wasting my time today explaining why he's a better PLAYER than Danilo Gallinari. Homers like blob and fish never admit they are wrong.

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1/28/2011  11:21 AM
I would really like to keep both of these guys, If there's a trade then take you pick, either one can go just like either one can say.

There not significantly better then each other, niether of them will amount to melo's level, but both are capablee of raising there level of play to an all star.

It's funny how Shawne williams(who plays the same position) and as the abilty to be just as good as Chandler and Gallo (giving the mins) but doesn't get compared to them.

We have the abilty to keep all three, and thats what we should be hoping and praying for.

melo, gallo, chandler, williams...4 players who can play multiple positons, would make us the most dangerous team in the league for the next 5 seasons

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1/28/2011  11:21 AM
isergio, woops i mean trueblue is up to his old tricks i see..
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1/28/2011  11:24 AM
nyk4ever wrote:isergio, woops i mean trueblue is up to his old tricks i see..

I don't even know who that is.

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1/28/2011  11:26 AM
iSergio wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

How so? What does Chandler do that Gallo can't?

Chandler is better on the fast break than Gallo. Chandler can finish when he goes to the basket. Chandler just has more athleticism.

but lately i'm starting to question Chandler's mental toughness. eh i say send em both packing for melo.

Wilson Chandler also has a midrange and post-up game. Danilo Gallinari doesn't. He either shoots the 3 or drives to the hoop.

I'll give you the midrange part, but Chandler's game is still mostly the three and drives to the bucket like Gallo. I wish he used it more. I disagree about Chandler being better on the fast break unless he has a clear path. He plays sometimes with his back to the bucket but he isn't close enough to the rim to really call that a post up game.

Gallo has a better handle and can go around a defender more easily than Chandler in half court and full court. Gallo is a better finisher around the rim, part of that is because he is taller. Chandler is a better defender.

There is no doubt Chandler can ball but I don't see passion, I don't see someone getting his teammates fired up, its more than just swagger, teammates feed off energy. Look at what Gallo's three did at the end of last night's game, the whole team responded and they put away the Heat. Chandler doesn't need swagger but he needs more attitude.

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1/28/2011  12:38 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
iSergio wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Wilson doesn't even have better tools than Gallo. Gallo is taller, more crafty in using his body, he's a smarter baller. He's definitely more athletic and much more skilled than Chandler.

Wilson Chandlers are a dime a dozen in the NBA league, Gallinaris are a very rare.

Danilo Gallinari is nowhere near as athletic as Wilson Chandler.

How so? What does Chandler do that Gallo can't?

Chandler is better on the fast break than Gallo. Chandler can finish when he goes to the basket. Chandler just has more athleticism.

but lately i'm starting to question Chandler's mental toughness. eh i say send em both packing for melo.

Wilson Chandler also has a midrange and post-up game. Danilo Gallinari doesn't. He either shoots the 3 or drives to the hoop.

I'll give you the midrange part, but Chandler's game is still mostly the three and drives to the bucket like Gallo. I wish he used it more. I disagree about Chandler being better on the fast break unless he has a clear path. He plays sometimes with his back to the bucket but he isn't close enough to the rim to really call that a post up game.

Gallo has a better handle and can go around a defender more easily than Chandler in half court and full court. Gallo is a better finisher around the rim, part of that is because he is taller. Chandler is a better defender.

There is no doubt Chandler can ball but I don't see passion, I don't see someone getting his teammates fired up, its more than just swagger, teammates feed off energy. Look at what Gallo's three did at the end of last night's game, the whole team responded and they put away the Heat. Chandler doesn't need swagger but he needs more attitude.

WHAT some people fail to realize with chandler is that he doesn't have a lot of natural basketball skills. things don't come natural to him. Chandler had to work on a lot of "simple" basketball skills when he got into the league.. things that gallo could do when he was 16... Part of chandlers problems right now is that he has no plan "B"... his jumper isn't falling, and people are playing him for his right hand drive.. so what can he do? exactly, the same thing he has been doing.. forcing and hoping it goes in.. Gallo has more natural skills. The game comes easier. Classic example, you can't play gallo to go one way, he also understands space better than chandler, and how to draw contact,keep defenses off balance.. this comes with basketball savy? this can't always be taught... showing highlight reels of chandler dunking is pointless...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/28/2011  12:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2011  12:59 PM
Gallo is long, skilled, and like clyde said has mastered the art of getting to the line. Gallo still has zero jumper off the dribble and Will's is pretty bad too. Will doesn't always show a good first step but once he gets going he has the breakaway speed and vertical. And he has become a very good spot up shooter. Will is a better shot blocker and is more versatile defensively, but Gallo is an excellent perimiter defender and Will is just average. They both have had consistency issues. But now, the difference is that Gallo isn't just hitting open shots, he's getting dunks, layups, and free throws every game without them being assisted. He gets the ball on the perimeter and mkaes things happen on his own. I've always favored Will over Gallo. Will has improved this year but Gallo has made really big strides.
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