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BRIGGS
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1/25/2011  5:27 PM
I still believe getting a second quality big--more of a scoring type and a quality back up 1-2 would really help us. Differential is a curious thing---you add a 50% 12-15 point 7 reb PF and a guy who can help keep Fleton minutes down and give us a spark could shoot us right back to where we were--especially by presenting more rest for the top guys.

I think Denver is going t0o hold Melo and we can get him in FA if thats the deal but I also want to enhance this team--thought we shouldve done it awhile back. Can we add a carl Landry for an azubuke + 2nd rounder(azu contract is all put paid)--can we add a TJ ford if he is bought out--maybe jefferies. somethi9ng like that--where we add talent and give up basically nothing--we can cut mason and curry @ the deadline to facilitate bringing in guys.

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1/25/2011  5:46 PM
Sorry briggs, there's no way in hell that denver is going to let melo walk as a FA no matter how you write the script...Give me one good reason you would let your super star player walk for nothing.

Get that thought out of your mind completely, they have a slim chance of trading him to a contender, but in all likely hood he'll be here VIA trade of some assortment of players.

If the losing continues, i see a small trade (outside of melo) taken place, maybe for a big.

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1/25/2011  5:54 PM
BRIGGS, I have faith that Donnie is looking into all of the options you laid out.

If we can add a guy that will contribute without compromising flexibility to land Melo, Walsh will certainly look to do that.

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1/25/2011  6:06 PM
2 moves that won't kill our flexibility to go after Melo in free agency:

- Curry, 2nd round pick & $1M cash for Sam Dalembert
- AR, Buike & Mozgov for TJ Ford & 1st round pick

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1/25/2011  6:12 PM
TMS wrote:2 moves that won't kill our flexibility to go after Melo in free agency:

- Curry, 2nd round pick & $1M cash for Sam Dalembert
- AR, Buike & Mozgov for TJ Ford & 1st round pick

essentially that's the equivalent of giving away 2nd round pick, $1M cash and Moz for nothing cause you wouldn't be able to keep Dalembert or TJ Ford without renouncing both to sign Melo.

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1/25/2011  6:17 PM
I don't really feel any pressure about this season. The East is so weak and this team even after the slump is still in a good position. We just need to be patient. 4 weeks from now it will all be said and done and we can think about the future of this franchise in a more concrete way. I'm very confident that we can work something out with Denver and take things from there.

I also think Timo is gonna find a niche and be helpful down the line. So I really ain't too worried about bigman help either. I actually think things are gonna be alright. It's been a tough year to deal with with all the back and forth on the trade, but things are looking better for this franchise.
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1/25/2011  6:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/25/2011  6:23 PM
martin wrote:
TMS wrote:2 moves that won't kill our flexibility to go after Melo in free agency:

- Curry, 2nd round pick & $1M cash for Sam Dalembert
- AR, Buike & Mozgov for TJ Ford & 1st round pick

essentially that's the equivalent of giving away 2nd round pick, $1M cash and Moz for nothing cause you wouldn't be able to keep Dalembert or TJ Ford without renouncing both to sign Melo.

the thread was asking for moves that would address our needs at the C & PG positions w/o killing our flexibility to go after Melo in free agency... losing Mozgov is no big loss, i'd rather have the freed up cap space than a guy who can't get on the court cuz of stage fright

weren't u in favor of trading Wilson, cash & a 2nd rounder to get Dalembert on the other thread but you're not OK w/this?

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1/25/2011  6:28 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Sorry briggs, there's no way in hell that denver is going to let melo walk as a FA no matter how you write the script...Give me one good reason you would let your super star player walk for nothing.

Get that thought out of your mind completely, they have a slim chance of trading him to a contender, but in all likely hood he'll be here VIA trade of some assortment of players.

If the losing continues, i see a small trade (outside of melo) taken place, maybe for a big.

The only reason to hold on to Melo was if they thought they had a legit shot to win the west. Which maybe they do if they stay healthy and play great bsketball. Thye'd have to get past San Antonio, Dalla and LA.

Staying healthy is a BIG if for that team though and if they did I think one of those teams would pick them off. I think he gets moved by the deadline.
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1/25/2011  8:58 PM
Shakur was very impressive last night. Maybe taking a run at a d-league guy to fill one of those needs would be the first step to keep all Melo options open. There are some guys putting up great numbers down there and a lot of former first round picks.
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1/26/2011  12:14 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Shakur was very impressive last night. Maybe taking a run at a d-league guy to fill one of those needs would be the first step to keep all Melo options open. There are some guys putting up great numbers down there and a lot of former first round picks.

Heck yeah, the d league is there for a reason. I want to win this year too but I'll be happy if the Knicks just make the playoffs, play hard and can end the season with hope for the next. There is no way their going to win it all this year but it feels good to watch a game and know they have a chance to win.

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1/26/2011  12:17 AM
CashMoney wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Shakur was very impressive last night. Maybe taking a run at a d-league guy to fill one of those needs would be the first step to keep all Melo options open. There are some guys putting up great numbers down there and a lot of former first round picks.

Heck yeah, the d league is there for a reason. I want to win this year too but I'll be happy if the Knicks just make the playoffs, play hard and can end the season with hope for the next. There is no way their going to win it all this year but it feels good to watch a game and know they have a chance to win.

Thats all Im asking for--I want to see us enhance the roster a bit--give us a better chance. Id like to see us with a tough second big who can play and go 9-10 deep like San Antonio

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1/26/2011  2:22 AM
We are not winning a championship this year. Not sure how much clearer that can get.
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1/26/2011  8:01 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Shakur was very impressive last night. Maybe taking a run at a d-league guy to fill one of those needs would be the first step to keep all Melo options open. There are some guys putting up great numbers down there and a lot of former first round picks.

Heck yeah, the d league is there for a reason. I want to win this year too but I'll be happy if the Knicks just make the playoffs, play hard and can end the season with hope for the next. There is no way their going to win it all this year but it feels good to watch a game and know they have a chance to win.

Thats all Im asking for--I want to see us enhance the roster a bit--give us a better chance. Id like to see us with a tough second big who can play and go 9-10 deep like San Antonio

Maybe it a question not "if" but "when".

Walsh has to stay in the Melo chase incase the price drops down to his level. Like a stock you want to buy. It only makes sense at a certain price.

We don't need any more production from the 3 but Melo is a worthy upgrade as long as walsh can still fulfill his objectives which he clearly states is a big.

Add a big this season along with some maturation of the Moz and we are big again.

I think its better to go quality then quantity. A bad big fit player is worse than going small.
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1/26/2011  8:41 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Give me one good reason you would let your super star player walk for nothing.
because they have no say in the matter. Same reason Cle let Lebron walk, Tor let Bosh walk, Magic let Shaq walk, etc etc

If they dont trade him at the deadline they are in total limbo. Melo isnt signing that contract. What does that tell you?

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