Vmart wrote:That is on MDA dude. He needs to start implementing AR into the Lineup because he is the best rebounder the Knicks have. The offense is to three point threat oriented. He has to lose one three point threat to account for improved rebounding.

Our big are
Turiaf
Amare
Mosgov
AR

Mosgov isnt ready, AR has been terrible and Turiaf is a very poor rebounder for a 6'10 guy with limited offensive skills.

The problem is we dont have any options on the roster that fixes this right now

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:That is on MDA dude. He needs to start implementing AR into the Lineup because he is the best rebounder the Knicks have. The offense is to three point threat oriented. He has to lose one three point threat to account for improved rebounding.

couldnt disagree more. AR has been awful and if you look at 82 games (small sample) he's been outrebounded by his opponents. AR has done nothing, nothing at all to deserve any time except for the fact that he's tall.

Our big are
Turiaf
Amare
Mosgov
AR

Mosgov isnt ready, AR has been terrible and Turiaf is a very poor rebounder for a 6'10 guy with limited offensive skills.

The problem is we dont have any options on the roster that fixes this right now

Rebounding is not about size but about skills and desire.
Phisically you need nothing but big ass to box out.
Our problem is not size but inexpirience and desire to have spectacular block instead of quiet rebond.

fishmike wrote:40-57
44-50
45-48
38-48
49-60
26-36

Yes... those are the rebounding totals. Knicks are getting beat on the boards but just under 10 a game. You cant win when you spot the other team 10 extra possesions.

jrodmc wrote:If this turns into a "oh how I miss DLee" thread, I'm officially going to blow up the board.

And Bip won't be able to fix it, either.

DLee type will be nice to have. Our defense sucks regardless.

arkrud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:If this turns into a "oh how I miss DLee" thread, I'm officially going to blow up the board.

And Bip won't be able to fix it, either.

DLee type will be nice to have. Our defense sucks regardless.

So we'd still be undersized, our defense would definitely get worse (please don't tell me it would stay the same or improve) and we'd have a DLee type getting half the easy rebounds that STAT was getting.

Get some hungry aircraft carrier butt that can box, still run(to keep Pringles happy) and also play something other than "Ole!-getting-out-of-poster-range-quick D. Isn't there some Glen Davis-type floating around in the D-League somewhere?

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:If this losing streak continues, then this is the perfect time to insert AR in the rotation. I saw some quotes from the Knicks that AR has been working hard in practice and the only reason he is not playing right now is because Williams and Walker is just a little better.

this is what I hope happens. 3-8 and MDA changes things up. 0-6 and I hope he does it again.

Yup. If we lose to the Wiz today then MDA has a very good excuse to insert AR in the rotation. If it happens then we will see what kind of player/person AR really is. I hope he excels to the point where he challenges Chandler or Turiaf for the starting lineup.

fishmike wrote:why do you guys want AR in the rotation? The thought of having some young energetic 7 footer that comes in and does nothing but blocks shots and cleans the glass is great. Only problem is AR isnt that guy. He's the guy who commits dumb fouls, takes terrible shots and is constantly in the wrong place.

I (still) love AR's potential and have my hopes but there is nothing to suggest MDA is holding this guy back. Seems like he's holding himself back.

At this point I'm looking for a good deal for Chandler, especially if we are maxing out Melo. DeAndre Jordan has been mentioned and seems like a very good fit. When Kaman comes back Clips dont have a good SF. They play Gomes there. A Chandler/Jordan swap helps both teams IMO

fishmike wrote:why do you guys want AR in the rotation? The thought of having some young energetic 7 footer that comes in and does nothing but blocks shots and cleans the glass is great. Only problem is AR isnt that guy. He's the guy who commits dumb fouls, takes terrible shots and is constantly in the wrong place.

I (still) love AR's potential and have my hopes but there is nothing to suggest MDA is holding this guy back. Seems like he's holding himself back.

At this point I'm looking for a good deal for Chandler, especially if we are maxing out Melo. DeAndre Jordan has been mentioned and seems like a very good fit. When Kaman comes back Clips dont have a good SF. They play Gomes there. A Chandler/Jordan swap helps both teams IMO

Dude AR needs run or all your going to be talking about is how you like his potential. He is the best rebounder the KNicks have. But you keep saying he sucks when the whole team is basically sucking right now, you need him in there to help with the rebounding and he can do that. Its up to MDA to utilize him to the benefit of the team not chalk up he sucks and want nothing to do with him. He is a good player who needs to be told what he can and can't do. Put him out there and tell him to rebound and play decent defense he will give that. Stop with the BS that he sucks he hasn't been allowed to show his capabilities.

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:why do you guys want AR in the rotation? The thought of having some young energetic 7 footer that comes in and does nothing but blocks shots and cleans the glass is great. Only problem is AR isnt that guy. He's the guy who commits dumb fouls, takes terrible shots and is constantly in the wrong place.

I (still) love AR's potential and have my hopes but there is nothing to suggest MDA is holding this guy back. Seems like he's holding himself back.

At this point I'm looking for a good deal for Chandler, especially if we are maxing out Melo. DeAndre Jordan has been mentioned and seems like a very good fit. When Kaman comes back Clips dont have a good SF. They play Gomes there. A Chandler/Jordan swap helps both teams IMO

Dude AR needs run or all your going to be talking about is how you like his potential. He is the best rebounder the KNicks have. But you keep saying he sucks when the whole team is basically sucking right now, you need him in there to help with the rebounding and he can do that. Its up to MDA to utilize him to the benefit of the team not chalk up he sucks and want nothing to do with him. He is a good player who needs to be told what he can and can't do. Put him out there and tell him to rebound and play decent defense he will give that. Stop with the BS that he sucks he hasn't been allowed to show his capabilities.

He is a good player who needs to be told what he can and can't do. Put him out there and tell him to rebound and play decent defense he will give that.

I hope if he does get burn I am 100% wrong and he's improved on the dreadful play he showed in every outing as a Knick so far