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1/20/2011  10:24 AM
Business Insider via KnicksTweets:

http://knickstweets.net/knicks-rumors/knicks-anthony-randolph-indiana-bound/

A source with direct knowledge of Randolph’s situation now tells us that the Knicks have agreed to a deal that will send Randolph to the Indiana Pacers….

While the move was far from shocking, many wondered which team would actually trade their first-rounder for Randolph, a bench player that coach Mike D’Antoni has lost interest in. The Timberwolves were the presumed front-runner. Now we know the Pacers, Walsh’s former employer, were the team prepared to acquire the 6-foot-11 Randolph.

The Pacers are pretty deep in frontcourt players, but none can match Randolph’s raw athletic ability. It’s up to Indiana to accomplish what New York and Golden State couldn’t over the last three seasons: convert his vast potential into consistent production.

Interesting...

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1/20/2011  10:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2011  10:26 AM
Im not going to lie. If Randolph blows up like Jermaine O'neal then I'll be pretty salty.

Now Randolph at least gets to play PF there.

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1/20/2011  10:27 AM
Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.
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1/20/2011  10:30 AM
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

Second that. Kid never really got a shot.

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1/20/2011  10:30 AM
Not a surprise if true, Walsh gave Larry his job so they have a good relationship with each other.

Sad to see AR go if this goes down as I would have liked to give him a longer look but at the same time, he just doesn't seem to have the mental tools to thrive here in NY and doesn't seem to fit. Hopefully this helps us out in the Melo chase.

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1/20/2011  10:34 AM
s3231 wrote:Not a surprise if true, Walsh gave Larry his job so they have a good relationship with each other.

Sad to see AR go if this goes down as I would have liked to give him a longer look but at the same time, he just doesn't seem to have the mental tools to thrive here in NY and doesn't seem to fit. Hopefully this helps us out in the Melo chase.

Agreed. Now its all about converting that pick into Melo. Will be disappointed if Randolph blows up and Melo is elsewhere.

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1/20/2011  10:36 AM
If its an unprotected pick or at least one in the 15 range we can probably get a better player than AR anyway.
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1/20/2011  10:36 AM
Full disclosure via tweets:

Tommy Dee nor Hahn have heard anything. Hahn is checking into it.

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1/20/2011  10:38 AM
VDesai wrote:If its an unprotected pick or at least one in the 15 range we can probably get a better player than AR anyway.

Yeah you are right. But this is a now team with Amare here can we really wait on a rookie to get good quickly.

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1/20/2011  10:48 AM
And if it's unprotected 2012 pick, allows us to trade 2011 and/or 2013 picks to Denver.

So either way if this deal goes through, should help our chances with Melo (which honestly, is the only reason I'd trade AR this early and hopefully Donnie agrees).

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1/20/2011  10:52 AM
s3231 wrote:And if it's unprotected 2012 pick, allows us to trade 2011 and/or 2013 picks to Denver.

So either way if this deal goes through, should help our chances with Melo (which honestly, is the only reason I'd trade AR this early and hopefully Donnie agrees).

Agreed. Whether Melo or not, this is a move to make things happen by the trade deadline. I think Walsh and D'Antoni know the Knicks aren't as good or as bad as they've looked at times. They're a solid team but we have a chance to move into that next level. Get it done DOnnie.

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1/20/2011  10:53 AM
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

+1

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1/20/2011  11:02 AM
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

Second that. Kid never really got a shot.

the time he did get he was terrible.

Unless that pick is a key to another trade I hope we keep AR. To me it doesnt matter if he plays again this year. He knows what he has to do and taking a year to learn and work on his game is a positive. He's 21 and I see him as part of a pipeline.

You see a lot of guys like AR come into the league too early, and when they are 24-25 suddenly resurface as really good players. Especially bigs. People like to blame coaches and teams but sometimes players simply arent ready.

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1/20/2011  11:05 AM
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

Second that. Kid never really got a shot.

the time he did get he was terrible.

Unless that pick is a key to another trade I hope we keep AR. To me it doesnt matter if he plays again this year. He knows what he has to do and taking a year to learn and work on his game is a positive. He's 21 and I see him as part of a pipeline.

You see a lot of guys like AR come into the league too early, and when they are 24-25 suddenly resurface as really good players. Especially bigs. People like to blame coaches and teams but sometimes players simply arent ready.

i am in this boat.

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1/20/2011  11:06 AM
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

Second that. Kid never really got a shot.

the time he did get he was terrible.

Unless that pick is a key to another trade I hope we keep AR. To me it doesnt matter if he plays again this year. He knows what he has to do and taking a year to learn and work on his game is a positive. He's 21 and I see him as part of a pipeline.

You see a lot of guys like AR come into the league too early, and when they are 24-25 suddenly resurface as really good players. Especially bigs. People like to blame coaches and teams but sometimes players simply arent ready.

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1/20/2011  11:10 AM
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

Second that. Kid never really got a shot.

the time he did get he was terrible.

Unless that pick is a key to another trade I hope we keep AR. To me it doesnt matter if he plays again this year. He knows what he has to do and taking a year to learn and work on his game is a positive. He's 21 and I see him as part of a pipeline.

You see a lot of guys like AR come into the league too early, and when they are 24-25 suddenly resurface as really good players. Especially bigs. People like to blame coaches and teams but sometimes players simply arent ready.

i am in this boat.

It does look like a deal is coming or being offered. Walsh could have tried to trade Randolph straight up for another big or a backup PG but he didn't (if this is true). Don't believe D'Antoni wants to develop any more players

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1/20/2011  11:17 AM
Kendrick Perkins comes to mind.. not similar players but Perkins was a raw big with clear skills who just took 3-4 years to really "get it"

Now he's one of the better defensive bigs in the league and a key part of an elite team. Bos gave him a modest extension to hang onto him also. I think he makes less than MLE type money.

I dont see AR being buried because of some agenda. I see all the players in the rotation ahead of him as simply better, although Williams has been off lately and I think MDA might consider shuffling the bench if that doesnt improve

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1/20/2011  11:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2011  11:22 AM
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

Second that. Kid never really got a shot.

the time he did get he was terrible.

Unless that pick is a key to another trade I hope we keep AR. To me it doesnt matter if he plays again this year. He knows what he has to do and taking a year to learn and work on his game is a positive. He's 21 and I see him as part of a pipeline.

You see a lot of guys like AR come into the league too early, and when they are 24-25 suddenly resurface as really good players. Especially bigs. People like to blame coaches and teams but sometimes players simply arent ready.

I think the Knicks poor start was a factor. I just think everyone was trying to find their way. For some reason AR was the scapegoat of the poor start.

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1/20/2011  11:22 AM
I didn't see anything from Randolph in games that will make me miss him. I must assume that he was equally unimpressive in practice. Not problem letting him go for a real asset (rotation-ready big, 1st round pick, etc.)
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1/20/2011  11:25 AM
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Yeah - for all this talk about the Knicks needing a 6'11" Marcus Camby clone... just ditching AR when he's never gotten a chance is infuriating to me.

Second that. Kid never really got a shot.

the time he did get he was terrible.

Unless that pick is a key to another trade I hope we keep AR. To me it doesnt matter if he plays again this year. He knows what he has to do and taking a year to learn and work on his game is a positive. He's 21 and I see him as part of a pipeline.

You see a lot of guys like AR come into the league too early, and when they are 24-25 suddenly resurface as really good players. Especially bigs. People like to blame coaches and teams but sometimes players simply arent ready.

I think the Knicks poor start was a factor. I just think everyone was trying to find their way. For some reason AR was the scapegoat of the poor start.

there's a big difference between escapegoat and being left out because of poor performance or fit. I think the later happened.

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