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If you could keep 1 of Williams or Walker in the rotation, who would you keep?
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TMS
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1/18/2011  8:26 PM
Let's just say DW is able to add another big to address our need in the frontcourt, who in the current rotation does he replace? We have seen that MDA only likes to go with a max of 9 man rotation, which means either Williams or Walker will likely be the odd man out. Who do u prefer to keep in the rotation & why?
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1/18/2011  8:40 PM
Tough call because I think the jury is still out on Williams. Still waiting to see how he responds when they key in on him. Walker shoots a better pct 3 at home and Williams has a better pct on the road. Walker seems better at taking it to the rim than Williams but I haven't seen Walker do too much of that lately. I guess it would depend on the schedule.
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1/18/2011  8:49 PM
1 thing about Walker is that he plays horrible defense... Williams at least puts forth some kind of effort, & he's got better size to guard guys in the post than Walker does... i like both of their ability to shoot the 3's... i think Williams would probably get the nod over Walker for me.
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1/18/2011  8:52 PM
Walker; unless Amare is in foul trouble.

Mainly because he can play the 2&3, which would mean less minutes for Douglas at SG.

Dude is bad enough at the point, now I have to watch him brick open jumpers and not finish at the rim. He can have his 10 minutes behind Felton and learn something. Maybe it's the shoulder, I dunno...

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1/18/2011  9:02 PM
TMS wrote:1 thing about Walker is that he plays horrible defense... Williams at least puts forth some kind of effort, & he's got better size to guard guys in the post than Walker does... i like both of their ability to shoot the 3's... i think Williams would probably get the nod over Walker for me.

Yep, Walker isn't as good defensively. I'd play them depending on whether the game is at home or away, but that's not your question. I'll say Walker because in the last month he is putting up roughly the same numbers as Williams in about 6 minutes less per game and shooting a higher pct from 3.

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1/18/2011  9:10 PM
gr33d wrote:Walker; unless Amare is in foul trouble.

Mainly because he can play the 2&3, which would mean less minutes for Douglas at SG.

Dude is bad enough at the point, now I have to watch him brick open jumpers and not finish at the rim. He can have his 10 minutes behind Felton and learn something. Maybe it's the shoulder, I dunno...

that's a good point too... with Gallo back in the rotation it may well make more sense to keep Walker to have more depth at the SG.

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1/18/2011  9:15 PM
TMS wrote:
gr33d wrote:Walker; unless Amare is in foul trouble.

Mainly because he can play the 2&3, which would mean less minutes for Douglas at SG.

Dude is bad enough at the point, now I have to watch him brick open jumpers and not finish at the rim. He can have his 10 minutes behind Felton and learn something. Maybe it's the shoulder, I dunno...

that's a good point too... with Gallo back in the rotation it may well make more sense to keep Walker to have more depth at the SG.

Yup. Give Walker some of TD's minutes.

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1/18/2011  9:17 PM
Not so long ago I would have said Williams, no question, but he has shown some cracks in his game recently, especially some inconsistency in his shot.

Walker is a pretty confident player on O, but plays little D, while Williams shows the desire to guard an opponent, even if he makes mental mistakes now and then. On D I respect effort, and expect consistency in decision making to come later.

Given the fact that Walker can play the 2/3, and Williams the 3/4, it seems like they can coexist.

If push comes to shove I lean toward Williams because of his defensive ability.

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1/18/2011  10:04 PM
Paladin55 wrote:Not so long ago I would have said Williams, no question, but he has shown some cracks in his game recently, especially some inconsistency in his shot.

Walker is a pretty confident player on O, but plays little D, while Williams shows the desire to guard an opponent, even if he makes mental mistakes now and then. On D I respect effort, and expect consistency in decision making to come later.

Given the fact that Walker can play the 2/3, and Williams the 3/4, it seems like they can coexist.

If push comes to shove I lean toward Williams because of his defensive ability.

if MDA goes to a 10 man rotation then we can accomodate another big & both the W boys in the current rotation... but if he goes to a 9 man, which has been his max so far from what i've seen, we have to remove 1 of those guys

C - Turiaf or other big
PF - Amare
SF - Gallo
SG - Fields
PG - Felton
6 - Wilson
7 - Douglas
8 - Turiaf or other big
9 - Walker or Williams

u could always go with GustavBahler's idea & play one or the other (or the other big) depending on matchups & away/home splits too

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1/18/2011  10:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2011  11:29 PM
Walker is very poor mans JR Smith.

Williams is currently a rich mans Kapono.

I think Williams wins this on size alone.

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1/18/2011  11:00 PM
TMS wrote:1 thing about Walker is that he plays horrible defense... Williams at least puts forth some kind of effort, & he's got better size to guard guys in the post than Walker does... i like both of their ability to shoot the 3's... i think Williams would probably get the nod over Walker for me.

tough call, but I pretty much agree with what you said...

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1/18/2011  11:02 PM
I think Walker doesn't get enough credit for how he rebounds. Guy has been boxing out and coming down with the ball. I guess his defense is pretty bad though.
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1/18/2011  11:26 PM
if only they could be genetically merged into a single player...with shawne william's brain
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1/19/2011  8:19 AM
TMS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:Not so long ago I would have said Williams, no question, but he has shown some cracks in his game recently, especially some inconsistency in his shot.

Walker is a pretty confident player on O, but plays little D, while Williams shows the desire to guard an opponent, even if he makes mental mistakes now and then. On D I respect effort, and expect consistency in decision making to come later.

Given the fact that Walker can play the 2/3, and Williams the 3/4, it seems like they can coexist.

If push comes to shove I lean toward Williams because of his defensive ability.

if MDA goes to a 10 man rotation then we can accomodate another big & both the W boys in the current rotation... but if he goes to a 9 man, which has been his max so far from what i've seen, we have to remove 1 of those guys

C - Turiaf or other big
PF - Amare
SF - Gallo
SG - Fields
PG - Felton
6 - Wilson
7 - Douglas
8 - Turiaf or other big
9 - Walker or Williams

u could always go with GustavBahler's idea & play one or the other (or the other big) depending on matchups & away/home splits too

Considering MDA does some strange things in terms of matchups, who really knows?

Like you say, both guys could still possibly get pt. He might not want to lose one completly and they both can stroke it from long range.

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1/19/2011  5:20 PM
MSG3 wrote:I think Walker doesn't get enough credit for how he rebounds. Guy has been boxing out and coming down with the ball. I guess his defense is pretty bad though.

his rebound avg pro-rates to 6.5 reb per 48... Williams is actually a better rebounder

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