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BRIGGS
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1/15/2011  7:40 PM
Carmelo Anthony says the opportunity to win an NBA title is more important to him than money.

That is why Anthony has held off on signing a three-year, $65 million extension, which the Nuggets offered him last summer.

He is still weighing his options as rumors linking him to the Nets continue to run wild.

On Saturday, Anthony said he will only sign an extension with a team that gives him a chance to win a championship.


"I'm going into my ninth season. I have no time to waste right now," Anthony said. "I want to see the light at the end of the tunnel in my future. That light is a championship."

Anthony added that bringing a title to Denver has always been his dream, but that it may be fading.

"If I feel I can't do it here, I don't think this is the right thing to do," the forward said. "It's just the uncertainty in the future of the organization. It's a lot of things that come into play, contracts, not knowing what's going to happen in the future."

He later reiterated that no contract extension will be about the money.

"At first, a lot of people were saying it's a money situation. It has nothing to do with no type of money," Anthony said. "I don't care about the money. My ultimate at the end of the day is to win and win a championship. Whether I feel like I can do that here, whether I feel like I need to go somewhere else and do it, that's my own ultimate decision.

"You have to have a decision what's best for you and best for your career. Right now, whatever decision I make is going to be the best decision for me."

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/71172/20110115/title_is_more_important_than_money_to_carmelo/#ixzz1B9c0XI4k

If this is the case--then I would just offer the Nuggets Curry Randolph(or a second 1) 3mm and a 2014# 1 and sign Carmelo to a 5 years 85 mm$ extension. Whats better 2 first round picks + cash or nothing. Why would I up the ante. Ill pay him on the same level LBJ was paid and Ill give the Nuggets 2 1's Im not giving my team away for a guy who will come here for nothing. Either take the 1's or will see whats up in FA.

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1/15/2011  7:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/15/2011  8:09 PM
so wait... all this time you've been totally against getting Melo because according to you he would cost us at a bare minimum all 4 of our top young players & multiple picks... anyone who thought different was in "fantasy land" as you put it... now u think we can get him for Curry, AR, cash & a future late 1st round pick? that's like 1 extreme to the other.

IMO the reality lies somewhere in between... i don't think there's any way we're gonna get Melo in any trade for that kind of package... we will likely have to give up at least 1 of Wilson or Gallo, if not both... otherwise if DW decides to wait for Melo to come as a free agent he's still gonna have to renounce or trade Wilson Chandler... either way, we're gonna be losing at least 1 of our top 3 young players.

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1/16/2011  2:47 AM
good. then sign in fa for 16.5. screw 22 mill
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1/16/2011  2:50 AM
He won't get to free agency though.. The nuggets are not going to make the same mistake cleveland did.
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1/16/2011  8:37 AM
Melo had decided not to stay in Denver. OK. The situation with the Nets would be marginally better.

Ownership -- better with the Nets
Current Roster -- better with the Nuggets
Max Extension - -equal
OK he would be in Brooklyn in a year
edge to the Nets but it my opinion an just an edge, why would he move then -- for him as it was with Lebron -- it's time for him to make the right move

Advantage -- NY Knicks -- waiting for Free Agency
Current Roster - -better with the Knicks -- add him -- -ready for a run
Ownership/GM - -Knicks
Max Extension - - New CBA - -?????????
In The Garden

Pretty Clear -- if he waits for Free Agency the only issue could be the New CBA -- everything else is Advantage Knicks!!

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1/16/2011  10:01 AM
Well, as it stands, the Knicks will need to renounce some players or come up with some interest trades to get a core of Stoudemire, Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Fieds, AND Carmelo on the team. Mountains will need to be moved - or both Carmelo and Chandler will need to take notably less money than expected.
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1/16/2011  10:03 AM
Melo: "Thank you Nuggs, I have decided My max extension is not a priority And I want to got to Knicks.
This means my value is diminished that you can rent me out for the rest of the season which does not yield much, and I'll sign with Knicks, or work something out."

Thats it. Funny how Melo says this the day after Walsh and Leon Rose had a few words. Donnie told him no way we bring him in at full salary cuz we need a big and they are not cheap. And He likley told him if he wants the money to to Jersey.

Thats my take. Being patient has its benefits. Donnie is not going to jump into it so fast.

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1/16/2011  10:05 AM
Talk is cheap. Prove it. If you truly don't care about money and want to contend for a title, the choice is so easy. Force your ass to New York. With Amar'e Stoudemire and Raymond Felton, you have a chance to one day contend. You no chance with New Jersey. And even if Carmelo Anthony contends, nobody will care. Just like nobody cared when Jason Kidd took the Nets to the Finals. And moving to Brooklyn isn't going to change that.
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1/16/2011  10:07 AM
Nalod wrote:Melo: "Thank you Nuggs, I have decided My max extension is not a priority And I want to got to Knicks.
This means my value is diminished that you can rent me out for the rest of the season which does not yield much, and I'll sign with Knicks, or work something out."

Thats it. Funny how Melo says this the day after Walsh and Leon Rose had a few words. Donnie told him no way we bring him in at full salary cuz we need a big and they are not cheap. And He likley told him if he wants the money to to Jersey.

Thats my take. Being patient has its benefits. Donnie is not going to jump into it so fast.


Maybe he also wants the Nuggets to know that he'll sign a cheaper max contract with the Knicks after the season ends rather than doing an S & T with Denver/NY, which would enable him to get a bigger contract and Denver to get something. That means Denver must trade him before the trade deadline to get something for him.
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1/16/2011  10:08 AM
iSergio wrote:Talk is cheap. Prove it. If you truly don't care about money and want to contend for a title, the choice is so easy. Force your ass to New York. With Amar'e Stoudemire and Raymond Felton, you have a chance to one day contend. You no chance with New Jersey. And even if Carmelo Anthony contends, nobody will care. Just like nobody cared when Jason Kidd took the Nets to the Finals. And moving to Brooklyn isn't going to change that.

If he really does take a cheaper contract because he wants to win that will impress me. Few players do that.
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1/16/2011  10:10 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Melo: "Thank you Nuggs, I have decided My max extension is not a priority And I want to got to Knicks.
This means my value is diminished that you can rent me out for the rest of the season which does not yield much, and I'll sign with Knicks, or work something out."

Thats it. Funny how Melo says this the day after Walsh and Leon Rose had a few words. Donnie told him no way we bring him in at full salary cuz we need a big and they are not cheap. And He likley told him if he wants the money to to Jersey.

Thats my take. Being patient has its benefits. Donnie is not going to jump into it so fast.


Maybe he also wants the Nuggets to know that he'll sign a cheaper max contract with the Knicks after the season ends rather than doing an S & T with Denver/NY, which would enable him to get a bigger contract and Denver to get something. That means Denver must trade him before the trade deadline to get something for him.

Thats why I am implying. You figured it out! You connected the dots! You found my encrypted clues!

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1/16/2011  10:36 AM
Nalod wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Melo: "Thank you Nuggs, I have decided My max extension is not a priority And I want to got to Knicks.
This means my value is diminished that you can rent me out for the rest of the season which does not yield much, and I'll sign with Knicks, or work something out."

Thats it. Funny how Melo says this the day after Walsh and Leon Rose had a few words. Donnie told him no way we bring him in at full salary cuz we need a big and they are not cheap. And He likley told him if he wants the money to to Jersey.

Thats my take. Being patient has its benefits. Donnie is not going to jump into it so fast.


Maybe he also wants the Nuggets to know that he'll sign a cheaper max contract with the Knicks after the season ends rather than doing an S & T with Denver/NY, which would enable him to get a bigger contract and Denver to get something. That means Denver must trade him before the trade deadline to get something for him.

Thats why I am implying. You figured it out! You connected the dots! You found my encrypted clues!

The question now is, who wants to gamble?

Giving up assets for a one-year title run is a tad risky... Dallas maybe?

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1/16/2011  10:48 AM
gr33d wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Melo: "Thank you Nuggs, I have decided My max extension is not a priority And I want to got to Knicks.
This means my value is diminished that you can rent me out for the rest of the season which does not yield much, and I'll sign with Knicks, or work something out."

Thats it. Funny how Melo says this the day after Walsh and Leon Rose had a few words. Donnie told him no way we bring him in at full salary cuz we need a big and they are not cheap. And He likley told him if he wants the money to to Jersey.

Thats my take. Being patient has its benefits. Donnie is not going to jump into it so fast.


Maybe he also wants the Nuggets to know that he'll sign a cheaper max contract with the Knicks after the season ends rather than doing an S & T with Denver/NY, which would enable him to get a bigger contract and Denver to get something. That means Denver must trade him before the trade deadline to get something for him.

Thats why I am implying. You figured it out! You connected the dots! You found my encrypted clues!

The question now is, who wants to gamble?

Giving up assets for a one-year title run is a tad risky... Dallas maybe?

This goes under the situation of a reality of Melo leaving and Denver gets nothing. So if a contender wants to give some yoot or a pick to go all in for a championship this season (dallas) and hope the whole situation is so wonderful that Melo at a ticker tape parade devotes his love to want to say based on emotions.

Or take the Knicks offer which is a bit better!

Dallas would not have to give up a lot cuz its a "better than nothing" offer.

I think Chandler is better long term than anything Dallas or another contender would, should or could do.

If Melo is willing to get paid less, then its a whole new ball game.

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1/16/2011  12:50 PM
gr33d wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Melo: "Thank you Nuggs, I have decided My max extension is not a priority And I want to got to Knicks.
This means my value is diminished that you can rent me out for the rest of the season which does not yield much, and I'll sign with Knicks, or work something out."

Thats it. Funny how Melo says this the day after Walsh and Leon Rose had a few words. Donnie told him no way we bring him in at full salary cuz we need a big and they are not cheap. And He likley told him if he wants the money to to Jersey.

Thats my take. Being patient has its benefits. Donnie is not going to jump into it so fast.


Maybe he also wants the Nuggets to know that he'll sign a cheaper max contract with the Knicks after the season ends rather than doing an S & T with Denver/NY, which would enable him to get a bigger contract and Denver to get something. That means Denver must trade him before the trade deadline to get something for him.

Thats why I am implying. You figured it out! You connected the dots! You found my encrypted clues!

The question now is, who wants to gamble?

Giving up assets for a one-year title run is a tad risky... Dallas maybe?

the Rockets might be another team... they own our draft pick in 2012 & their own pick that they can use... for a rental of Melo to make noise in the playoffs & maybe convince him to stay for the longhaul might be worth it for them.

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1/16/2011  2:46 PM
at dudes trying to read into quotes from Carmelo. I guess most learned nothing from the Lebron situation.

Im pretty sure Carmelo knows what he is going to do already. I wouldn't read into any of these quotes.

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1/16/2011  9:04 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Carmelo Anthony says the opportunity to win an NBA title is more important to him than money.

That is why Anthony has held off on signing a three-year, $65 million extension, which the Nuggets offered him last summer.

He is still weighing his options as rumors linking him to the Nets continue to run wild.

On Saturday, Anthony said he will only sign an extension with a team that gives him a chance to win a championship.


"I'm going into my ninth season. I have no time to waste right now," Anthony said. "I want to see the light at the end of the tunnel in my future. That light is a championship."

Anthony added that bringing a title to Denver has always been his dream, but that it may be fading.

"If I feel I can't do it here, I don't think this is the right thing to do," the forward said. "It's just the uncertainty in the future of the organization. It's a lot of things that come into play, contracts, not knowing what's going to happen in the future."

He later reiterated that no contract extension will be about the money.

"At first, a lot of people were saying it's a money situation. It has nothing to do with no type of money," Anthony said. "I don't care about the money. My ultimate at the end of the day is to win and win a championship. Whether I feel like I can do that here, whether I feel like I need to go somewhere else and do it, that's my own ultimate decision.

"You have to have a decision what's best for you and best for your career. Right now, whatever decision I make is going to be the best decision for me."

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/71172/20110115/title_is_more_important_than_money_to_carmelo/#ixzz1B9c0XI4k

If this is the case--then I would just offer the Nuggets Curry Randolph(or a second 1) 3mm and a 2014# 1 and sign Carmelo to a 5 years 85 mm$ extension. Whats better 2 first round picks + cash or nothing. Why would I up the ante. Ill pay him on the same level LBJ was paid and Ill give the Nuggets 2 1's Im not giving my team away for a guy who will come here for nothing. Either take the 1's or will see whats up in FA.

I thought you were hoping he would get traded to the Nets? Curious, very curious...

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1/16/2011  9:33 PM
AmsterdamKnicksFan wrote:He won't get to free agency though.. The nuggets are not going to make the same mistake cleveland did.

It's not up to the Nuggets really, though they may try to get the press and fans to believe that. If Melo is not willing to sign paper, the Nuggets have no say in the matter.

Rose is not the answer.
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1/16/2011  9:53 PM
knickstorrents wrote:
AmsterdamKnicksFan wrote:He won't get to free agency though.. The nuggets are not going to make the same mistake cleveland did.

It's not up to the Nuggets really, though they may try to get the press and fans to believe that. If Melo is not willing to sign paper, the Nuggets have no say in the matter.

They can trade him to anyone willing to give up assets though, even if he refuses to sign an extension.

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1/16/2011  10:22 PM
gr33d wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:
AmsterdamKnicksFan wrote:He won't get to free agency though.. The nuggets are not going to make the same mistake cleveland did.

It's not up to the Nuggets really, though they may try to get the press and fans to believe that. If Melo is not willing to sign paper, the Nuggets have no say in the matter.

They can trade him to anyone willing to give up assets though, even if he refuses to sign an extension.

exactly... which is why we can't just present the Nuggets with some insulting offer like Curry, AR & cash + 2nd rd picks for Melo in a trade... we have to come with at least enough of an offer so that other teams that would be willing to give up 1st round picks to get him for even a rental won't be able to outbid us... that means we'll have to include at least 1 of our top young guys at the bare minimum.

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1/17/2011  2:01 PM
TMS wrote:
gr33d wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:
AmsterdamKnicksFan wrote:He won't get to free agency though.. The nuggets are not going to make the same mistake cleveland did.

It's not up to the Nuggets really, though they may try to get the press and fans to believe that. If Melo is not willing to sign paper, the Nuggets have no say in the matter.

They can trade him to anyone willing to give up assets though, even if he refuses to sign an extension.

exactly... which is why we can't just present the Nuggets with some insulting offer like Curry, AR & cash + 2nd rd picks for Melo in a trade... we have to come with at least enough of an offer so that other teams that would be willing to give up 1st round picks to get him for even a rental won't be able to outbid us... that means we'll have to include at least 1 of our top young guys at the bare minimum.

I think we start at Chandler, Curry, 1st round pick, second round pick, and $3 mill and we stop at Chandler, Douglas, Walker, Curry, 1st round pick, second round pick, and $3 mill. I would fight hard to keep Fields and either Gallo or Chandler.

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