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GucciKnick8
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11/5/2001  10:58 AM
WOW! March on . . .I am down for any plan that rids us of Scott, I can't improve the Knicks Layden".
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11/5/2001  1:09 PM
Posted by GucciKnick8:

WOW! March on . . .I am down for any plan that rids us of Scott, I can't improve the Knicks Layden".
But who are we going to get to GM the Knicks - we need someone with leverage, and Scott has none.
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11/5/2001  1:37 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

But who are we going to get to GM the Knicks - we need someone with leverage, and Scott has none.

I don't think it's the the case that we need someone with leverage, we need players that a GM can leverage with. From the land of double negatives that make no sense: we ain't got no one.
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11/5/2001  2:37 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Caseloads:

But who are we going to get to GM the Knicks - we need someone with leverage, and Scott has none.

I don't think it's the the case that we need someone with leverage, we need players that a GM can leverage with. From the land of double negatives that make no sense: we ain't got no one.
I think right now we have alot of tradeable elements on our team if we'd only let them be traded:
Anderson
Camby
Eisley
Harrington
Houston
Mark Jackson
Sprewell
KT
Charlie Ward
Weatherspoon

GMs around the league would have interest in any of those players. How much interest is the key component, but all of these players have worth, maybe just not worth as much as we are paying them.
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11/6/2001  10:15 AM
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Caseloads:

But who are we going to get to GM the Knicks - we need someone with leverage, and Scott has none.

I don't think it's the the case that we need someone with leverage, we need players that a GM can leverage with. From the land of double negatives that make no sense: we ain't got no one.
I think right now we have alot of tradeable elements on our team if we'd only let them be traded:
Anderson
Camby
Eisley
Harrington
Houston
Mark Jackson
Sprewell
KT
Charlie Ward
Weatherspoon

GMs around the league would have interest in any of those players. How much interest is the key component, but all of these players have worth, maybe just not worth as much as we are paying them.

I dont know:

  • Ward - big contract, bad knees, bad play

  • Mark Jackson - Old and 2 more years on his contract (although he would be a good mentor)

  • Houston - Gargantuan contract and a smooth stroke (and nothing else)

  • Harrington - Othella is a player, but because of the size of his contract (small) I would submit that it makes him untradeable in the sense of equity in return for ability.
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11/6/2001  12:03 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Caseloads:

But who are we going to get to GM the Knicks - we need someone with leverage, and Scott has none.

I don't think it's the the case that we need someone with leverage, we need players that a GM can leverage with. From the land of double negatives that make no sense: we ain't got no one.
I think right now we have alot of tradeable elements on our team if we'd only let them be traded:
Anderson
Camby
Eisley
Harrington
Houston
Mark Jackson
Sprewell
KT
Charlie Ward
Weatherspoon

GMs around the league would have interest in any of those players. How much interest is the key component, but all of these players have worth, maybe just not worth as much as we are paying them.

I dont know:

  • Ward - big contract, bad knees, bad play

  • Mark Jackson - Old and 2 more years on his contract (although he would be a good mentor)

  • Houston - Gargantuan contract and a smooth stroke (and nothing else)

  • Harrington - Othella is a player, but because of the size of his contract (small) I would submit that it makes him untradeable in the sense of equity in return for ability.

Houston - portland would take him
Mark Jackson - Wizards (especially Jordan) would take him
Ward - ATL and GSW would take him.
Harrington - he's an equalizer throw in, like Ward+Harrington for someone decent/better than average with a larger salary - or to make an offer more attractive.
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11/7/2001  5:17 AM
I really don't think Layden is capable of instigating a big-time trade that would help us.

There is surely a more competent GM out there to replace him with...
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11/7/2001  8:36 AM
Posted by MCfan23:

There is surely a more competent GM out there to replace him with...

Jerry West...paging Jerry West, where are you?
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11/7/2001  8:53 AM
fugeddaboutit..

Red Auerbach still has his wits right or is he too old?

Bill Bradley?

Pat Croce?

Clyde Drexler?
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11/7/2001  1:22 PM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

fugeddaboutit..

Red Auerbach still has his wits right or is he too old?

Bill Bradley?

Pat Croce?

Clyde Drexler?
Red's too old. Bill's in politics. Clyde's in Denver (you didn't know this, he's like assistant GM to Kiki).

PAT CROCE, you're our man
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11/7/2001  1:23 PM
PAT CROCE, you're our man
Jimmy D (James Dolan) pick up the phone and dial...
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11/7/2001  1:34 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

PAT CROCE, you're our man

Wasn't Pat the President...not the GM. I don't think he had much to do with player evaluation and trades. He would be a good addition to the NY organization regardless.
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11/7/2001  1:48 PM
Posted by Andrew:
Posted by Caseloads:

PAT CROCE, you're our man

Wasn't Pat the President...not the GM. I don't think he had much to do with player evaluation and trades. He would be a good addition to the NY organization regardless.
Well, Layden is President and GM - he (Pat Croce) had a great amount of player input into the 76'ers. And was able to pull of big trades and wasn't afraid. We could make Pat Croce President and GM of the knicks - he has the necessary leverage around the league to get our deals done, and not get bullied - like Layden and JVG! Checketts never got bullied, and neither did Ernie.
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