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1/11/2011  12:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2011  12:37 PM
The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.
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1/11/2011  12:50 PM
That rocket that TD threw to him during the Lakers game that went thru his hands and hit the rim was not a pass.

The worlds most intersting Moz counted it as a shot on goal! Hit the rim.

The worlds most intersting Moz for a moment crept back in his youth and was trying to deflect a hockey puck into the goal.

Moz does not miss passes, he redirects them.

Does Moz seem to miss his "Pick" on the pick and roll? Seems like he prematurely is cutting to basket. Now Im no coach and I realize this has to happen pretty quick. Moz with the ball on the wing has to execute this play for him to participate in the system. He has to do a lot in the moment and that ball is coming to him from an angle not determined from felton or TD but from what the defense is allowing it. So he has to make the pick, know where to turn, head to basket without offensive foul, recognize where the ball is, and the passing lane to which it can come from, then recognize where he is, feel if he is going to charge a defender, and to to the rim without being stripped. Whew!

Do this 14,000 times in practice and he'll get it soon.

Moz has the tools, just needs the fundamentals in place.
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1/11/2011  12:50 PM
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

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1/11/2011  1:15 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped

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1/11/2011  1:22 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped

most of us were watching to see how much MDA yelled at TD and if it matched in intensity to how he yells at AR. CrushAlot is still reviewing tape and analyzing nuances and length of yelling.

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1/11/2011  1:24 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped

Yeah, I think it was tipped. On the next play TD ran the pick-n-roll with Moz.
Didn't get the ball to a wide open Moz & instead forced a shot over two taller defenders.

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1/11/2011  1:25 PM
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped

most of us were watching to see how much MDA yelled at TD and if it matched in intensity to how he yells at AR. CrushAlot is still reviewing tape and analyzing nuances and length of yelling.

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1/11/2011  1:26 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped

most of us were watching to see how much MDA yelled at TD and if it matched in intensity to how he yells at AR. CrushAlot is still reviewing tape and analyzing nuances and length of yelling.

LOL

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1/11/2011  1:28 PM

The Moz will be unleashed in the playoffs.

Since we are disecting it all down, if one want to know how MDA feels about it his reaction to TD throwing that thing and making his boy look stupid says plenty. If TD was being spiteful or stupid as Nate was not passing to Gallo or Wilson at times it will not bode well for him.

Coaches will know when its time to put him back into the rotation.
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1/11/2011  1:56 PM
I agree that they should try getting Moz back in there, and limit what you try to get out of him.

Just have to work him in slowly, perhaps at the start of games so Amare doesn't feel like a shrimp like he must have against the Lakers.

MDA with his force the opponent to adjust against him is laughable, and sad.
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1/11/2011  1:58 PM
franco12 wrote:I agree that they should try getting Moz back in there, and limit what you try to get out of him.

Just have to work him in slowly, perhaps at the start of games so Amare doesn't feel like a shrimp like he must have against the Lakers.

MDA with his force the opponent to adjust against him is laughable, and sad.

all coaches try to do this. You want a coach to play to the other team's strength or not his own?

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1/11/2011  2:32 PM
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped

most of us were watching to see how much MDA yelled at TD and if it matched in intensity to how he yells at AR. CrushAlot is still reviewing tape and analyzing nuances and length of yelling.

now that's funny - still can't believe crush actually said that. i mean cmon...

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1/11/2011  2:46 PM
Nalod wrote:Does Moz seem to miss his "Pick" on the pick and roll? Seems like he prematurely is cutting to basket.

yes, I saw this too. He's setting the pick late and rolling early. the pick he is seeting isn't good either, he's using his back, probably why he's rolling early because he doesn't know what the defendant is doing.

However, he is crashing offensive and defensive glass and is boxing out on D, getting into the paint when a shot it is fired on offense.

Overall, its hard to imagine that he couldn't be useful when we play a team as tall as the lakers and our biggest player is 6-9.

I need to see more of him. His hook rimmed out. He needs a few minutes here and there, not just garbage time.
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1/11/2011  3:33 PM
i think we need to send Mozgov & AR to training camp, Rocky style

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1/11/2011  8:59 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped


Have to admit that my eyesight sucks, and I was watching it on ATDHE, but I'm afraid that I always assume that Timo is going to mishandle about 72.3% of the balls thrown to him these days.
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1/11/2011  9:15 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The best way to counter poor hands is keeping a high target. It allows the player catching the ball to see the ball coming at eye-level and having the ability to use two hands to make the catch. In Mosgov's success's its usually catching an alley oop where he can see the ball and grab it with two hands. His failure is when passes come in to hard or below waist level. The Knicks PGs have to make him feel comfortable catching and Mosagov has to get into position to be able to use a target. In the beginning of the season Mosgov showed the ability to hit a mid range jump shot and finish at the rim. I think that if we start him out again at 8-12 minutes off the bench--putting him into position to succeed by understanding what his limitations are so he can become a useful asset.

I don't know, Briggs- the other day a ball thrown to him head high went right through his hands. His problems are as much in his head as in his hands, I would think.

...But yeah, they have to watch how they feed him the ball.

Did anyone wathc that pass closely? Not only was it a rocket, I also think it got tipped

most of us were watching to see how much MDA yelled at TD and if it matched in intensity to how he yells at AR. CrushAlot is still reviewing tape and analyzing nuances and length of yelling.

now that's funny - still can't believe crush actually said that. i mean cmon...

I can't believe it either.
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Vmart wrote:

Hell, that kind of stuff, or something like it, worked for Don Nelson when he was playing, if I remember correctly.

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1/11/2011  10:08 PM
the key to mozgov is to just not pass it to him....
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1/12/2011  8:54 AM
Turiaf put on a fundamental clinic last nite on how to move without the ball. Make Timo a DVD and have him sit and watch it "Clockwork orange" style.

Unless Timo is a mental midget he will adapt to the pace. He has the tools.
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