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TMS
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1/9/2011  9:30 PM
wanted to get a gauge of everyone's suitable plan B options would be if this Melo trade to NJ goes through.

here's a list of some players that have been mentioned in the press of late that might be traded by the deadline... would any of these guys take us to the next level we're looking to get to? would any of these guys represent upgrades over what we already have? & if so, what would be realistic in terms of cost to acquire them? (add any others u think might be realistic options to consider):

Andre Iguodala
Elton Brand
Marcus Camby
Nene Hilario
Sam Dalembert
Omri Casspi
OJ Mayo
Hasheem Thabeet
Baron Davis
Steve Nash
Antawn Jamison
Andray Blatche

or do u feel like there are no realistic suitable plan B options out there that would be worth targetting & we should just stand pat & preserve our cap flexibility until this summer's free agency?

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1/9/2011  9:38 PM
U don't mess around do you?
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1/9/2011  9:41 PM
You forgot to say "Bam!"
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1/9/2011  9:42 PM
Push hard for Iggy, Kevin Martin, or Ganger for a strong wing and Dalembert or Camby for depth up front.
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1/9/2011  9:51 PM
Curry+AR for Camby, if Portland is trying to save money, and we don't need as much cap space this coming summer.
I think if we're not getting a home run- it's the smart move to hold on to our talent -
I guess some time in the summer we could think about Gallo for AI if we're not feeling Gallo as much- (pause)
But I think there's really not a good way to jump the gun on our own talent analysis until we've been through a season and a playoff series with it-
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1/9/2011  9:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:You forgot to say "Bam!"

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1/9/2011  10:03 PM
93BUICK wrote:Curry+AR for Camby, if Portland is trying to save money, and we don't need as much cap space this coming summer.
I think if we're not getting a home run- it's the smart move to hold on to our talent -
I guess some time in the summer we could think about Gallo for AI if we're not feeling Gallo as much- (pause)
But I think there's really not a good way to jump the gun on our own talent analysis until we've been through a season and a playoff series with it-

i think that sounds like the most practical decision to make... if we're not gonna hit a homerun & get a superstar, then we're probably better off saving our pieces & making a lesser trade for someone like Camby... i doubt Curry & AR would get it done though, we'd probably have to throw in more pieces, maybe cash & our 2nd round picks... i'd still do it though... i think Camby would be a perfect fit next to Amare in our frontcourt, & Camby's contract expires after next season so it's not gonna kill our cap longterm.

i used to think Iggy would make for a suitable plan B option, but when i think about it i'd much rather have Fields & Wilson playing the wing positions than Iggy anyway... plus his contract isn't cap friendly & we're already gonna be extending Wilson to a longterm extension which probably won't be cheap either.

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1/9/2011  10:05 PM
Knixkik wrote:Push hard for Iggy, Kevin Martin, or Ganger for a strong wing and Dalembert or Camby for depth up front.

i don't see Martin as a realistic option... Granger's interesting though, but what would u be willing to trade for him? u gotta figure he'd cost us at least 1 or 2 of our top young players to get.

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1/9/2011  10:12 PM
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Push hard for Iggy, Kevin Martin, or Ganger for a strong wing and Dalembert or Camby for depth up front.

i don't see Martin as a realistic option... Granger's interesting though, but what would u be willing to trade for him? u gotta figure he'd cost us at least 1 or 2 of our top young players to get.

I'd want to keep our three top yoots instead of adding that little improvement Granger will bring in playing Chandler's position.

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1/9/2011  10:14 PM
TMS wrote:
93BUICK wrote:Curry+AR for Camby, if Portland is trying to save money, and we don't need as much cap space this coming summer.
I think if we're not getting a home run- it's the smart move to hold on to our talent -
I guess some time in the summer we could think about Gallo for AI if we're not feeling Gallo as much- (pause)
But I think there's really not a good way to jump the gun on our own talent analysis until we've been through a season and a playoff series with it-

i think that sounds like the most practical decision to make... if we're not gonna hit a homerun & get a superstar, then we're probably better off saving our pieces & making a lesser trade for someone like Camby... i doubt Curry & AR would get it done though, we'd probably have to throw in more pieces, maybe cash & our 2nd round picks... i'd still do it though... i think Camby would be a perfect fit next to Amare in our frontcourt, & Camby's contract expires after next season so it's not gonna kill our cap longterm.

i used to think Iggy would make for a suitable plan B option, but when i think about it i'd much rather have Fields & Wilson playing the wing positions than Iggy anyway... plus his contract isn't cap friendly & we're already gonna be extending Wilson to a longterm extension which probably won't be cheap either.

Getting Camby is smart because he's a great fit and he expires in 2012 when some decent options might be available. We would have money to upgrade to someone like Nene who will be a FA. I don't think Iggy's contract is cap killing. He is a durable player (this year is the 1 exception) and makes fair money for his abilities. Chandler will only make a little less when he resigns. Iggy would be an all-star in this system. If you think Chandler puts up good numbers, you put Iggy here and he averages 20, 6, 6 and remains one of the best defensive wings in the league. He also provides another facilitator on offense that we lack.

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1/9/2011  10:16 PM
Camby and Mayo are the only ones of interest there. Billups if there is a real buyout scenario.
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1/9/2011  10:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2011  10:18 PM
loweyecue wrote:Camby and Mayo are the only ones of interest there. Billups if there is a real buyout scenario.

if Billups gets bought out don't u think he'd either re-sign with the Nuggets or catch on with the Lakers? just asking

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1/9/2011  10:28 PM
Knixkik wrote:
TMS wrote:
93BUICK wrote:Curry+AR for Camby, if Portland is trying to save money, and we don't need as much cap space this coming summer.
I think if we're not getting a home run- it's the smart move to hold on to our talent -
I guess some time in the summer we could think about Gallo for AI if we're not feeling Gallo as much- (pause)
But I think there's really not a good way to jump the gun on our own talent analysis until we've been through a season and a playoff series with it-

i think that sounds like the most practical decision to make... if we're not gonna hit a homerun & get a superstar, then we're probably better off saving our pieces & making a lesser trade for someone like Camby... i doubt Curry & AR would get it done though, we'd probably have to throw in more pieces, maybe cash & our 2nd round picks... i'd still do it though... i think Camby would be a perfect fit next to Amare in our frontcourt, & Camby's contract expires after next season so it's not gonna kill our cap longterm.

i used to think Iggy would make for a suitable plan B option, but when i think about it i'd much rather have Fields & Wilson playing the wing positions than Iggy anyway... plus his contract isn't cap friendly & we're already gonna be extending Wilson to a longterm extension which probably won't be cheap either.

Getting Camby is smart because he's a great fit and he expires in 2012 when some decent options might be available. We would have money to upgrade to someone like Nene who will be a FA. I don't think Iggy's contract is cap killing. He is a durable player (this year is the 1 exception) and makes fair money for his abilities. Chandler will only make a little less when he resigns. Iggy would be an all-star in this system. If you think Chandler puts up good numbers, you put Iggy here and he averages 20, 6, 6 and remains one of the best defensive wings in the league. He also provides another facilitator on offense that we lack.

personally i think i'd only trade for Iggy if we could get him for Curry, AR, TD & cash/picks, but i doubt that would get it done... i really value Landry Fields on this team & Wilson is gonna be a part of this team for the longterm, DW's has already come out & made that clear.

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1/9/2011  10:31 PM
If we gave up Curry/ AR for Camby I'd like to see more coming our way. I know AR's stock is low right now but not so low that we shouldn't ask for more back.
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1/9/2011  10:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2011  10:39 PM
GustavBahler wrote:If we gave up Curry/ AR for Camby I'd like to see more coming our way. I know AR's stock is low right now but not so low that we shouldn't ask for more back.

only way we could ask for more is if AR was playing & putting up stats... gotta figure all the DNP's he's collected has degraded his value a ton... Camby's no spring chicken but he is still grabbing 11 boards & 2 blocks each night.

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1/9/2011  10:38 PM
Camby and Mayo would be my targets....
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1/9/2011  10:40 PM
TMS wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Camby and Mayo are the only ones of interest there. Billups if there is a real buyout scenario.

if Billups gets bought out don't u think he'd either re-sign with the Nuggets or catch on with the Lakers? just asking

Yes, he seems to have his heart set on Denver, that post was more in hope than anything.

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1/9/2011  10:41 PM
Whether we get Melo or not, it is clear that we need another shot creator. Felton creates shots for himself and others well and obviously you can get the ball to Amare in his spots and let him make something happen. But when these two are out, the team seems very helter-skelter in a bad way. If we add someone else that can create offense, such as Iggy or Monta Ellis, then it takes a lot of pressure off of Felton and STAT. Chandler, Gallo, and Fields are great playing off of others, but they can't make something happen when the offense stalls.
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1/9/2011  10:42 PM
I'd target both Kevin Love and Andre Iguodala
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1/9/2011  10:45 PM
TMS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:If we gave up Curry/ AR for Camby I'd like to see more coming our way. I know AR's stock is low right now but not so low that we shouldn't ask for more back.

only way we could ask for more is if AR was playing & putting up stats... gotta figure all the DNP's he's collected has degraded his value a ton... Camby's no spring chicken but he is still grabbing 11 boards & 2 blocks each night.


Sometimes people are fed their talents on a silver platter. If someone could just bang AR's head really hard so that he gets the phucking idea of playing simple ball, he could be our young Camby for the next 10-14 years. But yeah, not happening.

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