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The Development of Landry Fields
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Knixkik
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1/9/2011  7:26 PM
We have covered this topic before, but i wanted to address it again. Fields is obviously the surprise pick that not one person in the NBA world saw as being this good. It seems as if now people will justify him still not being a lottery-caliber player because of his apparent lack of potential and upside. People don't feel he is a player who will ever have a chance to become more than a role player and most of the high first round picks will eventually surpass him, proving to be better choices. So my main question is, why don't people see any upside in him? Yes he is a B level athlete, but so is Brandon Roy (pre injuries.) Fields is not as skilled as Roy, but why can't he develop over time? He shows promise offensively as a shooter, finisher, and although timid because he doesn't try to do too much, has the ability to create shots for himself and others. His IQ is off the charts, so there is no reason he can't develop in all areas.

I see him as a David Lee type in the sense of his development. Coming out of college without a true specialty, a 4-year player, who is a B-athlete. Is there anything that definitely prevents Fields from becoming an all-star in this system by his 4th or 5th system like Lee did? I don't see it. I need feedback again, because i want to know what type of upside he has beyond the Shane Battier/ultimate role player comments. Why do most people (besides some Knick fans) feel he is just a strong role player and won't progress much more than in his current role?

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1/9/2011  7:45 PM
IMHO, his low ceiling is Shane Battier.
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1/9/2011  7:45 PM
Knixkik wrote:Is there anything that definitely prevents Fields from becoming an all-star in this system by his 4th or 5th system like Lee did?

for one thing, there's the presence of Amare Stoudamire & Ray Felton, 2 players that David Lee didn't have to contend with for touches on offense... that allowed Lee to develop his game & become a featured scorer in the offense, something that may not have happened if he were playing with Amare... if u look at the #'s Lee is putting up this season he's gone from being a 20 & 12 player last year as the primary option in NY back to being a 15 & 10 guy as a secondary/tertiary option in GS.

personally i think even 15 & 10 is very optimistic for Landry Fields... to me his value isn't his upside potential, but in the intangibles that he brings to the floor & the contribution he makes to the overall chemistry of the team in general.

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1/9/2011  8:01 PM
I remember David Thorpe from ESPN saying that Fields could become a Mike Miller type player if he improves his jumper. Personally, I can see fields turning into a more of a Doug Christie type. Either way, I think the kid is gonna be good.
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1/9/2011  8:13 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I remember David Thorpe from ESPN saying that Fields could become a Mike Miller type player if he improves his jumper. Personally, I can see fields turning into a more of a Doug Christie type. Either way, I think the kid is gonna be good.

He barely leaves the ground when he shoots 3s and long 2s. Almost flat footed. Not sure why. Fields seems like the kind of guy who would work on improving his jumper in the offseason.

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1/9/2011  8:25 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:I remember David Thorpe from ESPN saying that Fields could become a Mike Miller type player if he improves his jumper. Personally, I can see fields turning into a more of a Doug Christie type. Either way, I think the kid is gonna be good.

He barely leaves the ground when he shoots 3s and long 2s. Almost flat footed. Not sure why. Fields seems like the kind of guy who would work on improving his jumper in the offseason.

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1/9/2011  8:26 PM
His jumper will get better... he might be flat footed, but his form is on point, and his shot selection is great. I don't think he'll ever be a bad shooter, and has potential to be a very good one. His biggest deficiency is his handles, and that's something he'll need to work on a great deal if he wants to take his game to the next level. If this kid learns to put it on the floor and break people down, he's got all-star potential, without a doubt.
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1/9/2011  8:52 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:I remember David Thorpe from ESPN saying that Fields could become a Mike Miller type player if he improves his jumper. Personally, I can see fields turning into a more of a Doug Christie type. Either way, I think the kid is gonna be good.

He barely leaves the ground when he shoots 3s and long 2s. Almost flat footed. Not sure why. Fields seems like the kind of guy who would work on improving his jumper in the offseason.

I remember the Miller comparison, it's not bad for him to shoot to become that type of player offensively. He still has much different strengths then Miller though. He's not the shooter, but a much better rebounder and defender. But i think in the sense of his offensive, he can develop into that 20 ppg scorer that Miller was in orlando. All around though i already think he's as good or better than Miller.

If he becomes a 40% 3-point shooter or better, he will be ideal for this system. He's a 37% shooter now so he is close and should get there by his 3rd season or sooner. I still don't see why he can't become better than the Battier's, Christie's and Miller's of the world. I see all-star potential.

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1/9/2011  8:57 PM
The Answer Man Sez First You Gotta Let Go Of David Lee

Q. Knixkix - Fields is not as skilled as Roy, but why can't he develop over time?

A. Landry Fields is unique and very old school. he could play in any system because he has a tremendous understanding of conforming to his teammates and game flow. He is ninja. Landry Fields can play any role he wants. He is a rookie in his 36th professional game. Imagine what he will be like with the experience, work ethic and confidence that comes with a few tours around the league. Don't worry about his upside, downside or his backside.

Q. Knixkix - Is there anything that definitely prevents Fields from becoming an all-star in this system by his 4th or 5th system like Lee did?

A. Let go of David Lee. Forget Shane Battier. You want a comparison? John Havlicek is perfect. Sure, people may call it blasphemy but the parallels are undeniable. Non-stop energy. Movement off the ball. Rebounding. Intelligence. Havlicek was a third option on the Celtics and played a complimentary role as a sixth man to perfection. Did I mention he would run the floor non-stop?

Q. Knixkix - Why do most people (besides some Knick fans) feel he is just a strong role player and won't progress much more than in his current role?

A. Landry Fields as role player? Don't get hung up on labels any more than player comparisons. Fields was 6-6 from the floor against the Suns and will probably refine his jumper over the Summer with former pro Dad Steve. He is a joy to watch and will only improve. Thank you scouting staff and thank you Donnie Walsh.

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1/9/2011  9:11 PM
The main thing holding Fields back from becoming an all-star would be his own teammates. His teammates' production would probably need to decrease a bit for his non percentage stats to increase in a truly measurable way. He could probably squeeze out a point or two by getting the benefit of a foul call or two and by increasing his FT%.

But the Knicks are a young team, so his teammates are also expected to improve statistically as well.

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1/9/2011  9:12 PM
misterearl wrote:The Answer Man Sez First You Gotta Let Go Of David Lee

Q. Knixkix - Fields is not as skilled as Roy, but why can't he develop over time?

A. Landry Fields is unique and very old school. he could play in any system because he has a tremendous understanding of conforming to his teammates and game flow. He is ninja. Landry Fields can play any role he wants. He is a rookie in his 36th professional game. Imagine what he will be like with the experience, work ethic and confidence that comes with a few tours around the league. Don't worry about his upside, downside or his backside.

Q. Knixkix - Is there anything that definitely prevents Fields from becoming an all-star in this system by his 4th or 5th system like Lee did?

A. Let go of David Lee. Forget Shane Battier. You want a comparison? John Havlicek is perfect. Sure, people may call it blasphemy but the parallels are undeniable. Non-stop energy. Movement off the ball. Rebounding. Intelligence. Havlicek was a third option on the Celtics and played a complimentary role as a sixth man to perfection. Did I mention he would run the floor non-stop?

Q. Knixkix - Why do most people (besides some Knick fans) feel he is just a strong role player and won't progress much more than in his current role?

A. Landry Fields as role player? Don't get hung up on labels any more than player comparisons. Fields was 6-6 from the floor against the Suns and will probably refine his jumper over the Summer with former pro Dad Steve. He is a joy to watch and will only improve. Thank you scouting staff and thank you Donnie Walsh.


yeah it's total blasphemy. but let's have fun rooting for the kid.
The Development of Landry Fields

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