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1/6/2011  2:24 PM
Knicks president Donnie Walsh promised yesterday he will not let Wilson Chandler get away this summer. Walsh passed on signing him to a long-term contract extension at Oct. 31's deadline but claims he will not rue the decision.

Amidst the euphoria of Tuesday's 128-115 victory over NBA-best San Antonio, Chandler was the shining star, busting the Spurs for a season-high 31 points with his lethal inside-outside game in continuing a superb, breakout season.

The Knicks' renaissance is not just about Amar'e Stoudemire, who makes his Phoenix homecoming tomorrow when the club opens a four-game West Coast trip.

"Wilson's a restricted free agent and I'm going to sign him," Walsh said yesterday. "He's a helluva player."

Walsh said he could not come to terms with Chandler in October because he was unsure of the pay scale or salary cap for a new collective bargaining agreement. Walsh's thoughts in October centered on wanting to re-sign Chandler yet saving room for Carmelo Anthony. Ironically, Chandler is playing like Anthony Lite.

Chris Luchey, Chandler's agent, said he and Walsh were close to a pact before David Stern made alarming remarks in late October about cap shrinkage.

"We have a great, open working relationship with Donnie," Luchey told The Post. "We did feel like we were close to having a deal done early on. We thought we were in the same ballpark on what his value was before the commissioner came out with strong statements. That kind of startled Donnie and got him to backpedal.

"So we agreed we can play it out, knowing it could backfire in them having to spend more money if his value goes up," he said. "His value has definitely risen since Oct. 31. But my belief is Donnie wants to retain him, even if another spectacular free agent -- not naming names -- comes up."

The Knicks can snare both if the old CBA has the same rule regarding teams' ability to exceed the salary cap when re-signing their own player. To do so, the Knicks would have to first sign Anthony, then Chandler.

According to a league source, Chandler might seek a five-year deal worth $60 million.

Chandler is averaging 17.9 points and 6.5 rebounds -- similar numbers posted by Joe Johnson before he signed a five-year, $65M deal with Atlanta in 2006.
If the restricted-free agency rule is not altered in the new agreement, Walsh can match any offer and keep Chandler a Knick.

"I'm confident even if it's not there [ability to match], we're going to sign him," Walsh said. "That's our intention when the time comes."

Chandler is part of the old regime, selected by Isiah Thomas with the 23rd pick of the 2007 draft, but he has separated himself from Danilo Gallinari as the better player. He came out of DePaul after his freshman year, perhaps too early, but right on time to be the key third piece to Stoudemire and Raymond Felton. Their rout of the Spurs -- without the injured Gallinari -- was a key indicator that the Knicks could be a playoff force.

"Wilson has played at the top of the league in some games this year and [Tuesday] night was a good example, the way he played against a top team and they couldn't deal with him," Walsh said. "He was shooting well from the outside, his uncanny ability to change direction in the air. He's gotten stronger and become a better defender. His game has jumped a lot."

The coaching staff is thrilled at a change in Chandler's shooting mechanics on his jumper. The knock on Chandler -- ever since DePaul -- was streakiness as an outside shooter. But Chandler no longer holds the ball too high over his head and has become a more fundamentally sound shooter.

"Everything's improved on Wilson," Walsh said. "His shooting technique has improved, his choice of shots has improved and the new players on the team have a lot to do with it because he gets better chances. The biggest change is when he gets to the goal in one dribble, he's such a great athlete and leaves his feet, he's up over anybody, and that separates him from a lot of players."

Sounds a little like a certain player from Denver who is on the trading block.

"I'm happy he's playing with guys like Amar'e and Felton, that can help him," Walsh said. "As a guy he's the kind you'd want here, focused on basketball, a good teammate, team-oriented."

Walsh dismissed Chandler's summer arrest in Queens after marijuana was found in his car while driving with a friend. Chandler was cleared of wrongdoing as the passenger admitted to owning the stash.

"I don't think that said anything about Wilson Chandler," Walsh said. "He's a squared up guy who tries to do the right things, not looking to do the wrong things. All young guys make certain mistakes. That's how I regarded it."

Berman is assuming that Chandler's cap-hold would be something along the lines of a league min salary. That would never happen. We just went through this with Lee. How does he write an article like this without anyone doing any fact checking?

I guess anyone can be a sports writer.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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1/6/2011  2:35 PM
berman is an idiot. stop reading his ish.
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1/6/2011  2:36 PM
jimimou wrote:berman is an idiot. stop reading his ish.

don't tell me you're tired of reading about Marbury

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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1/6/2011  2:36 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:berman is an idiot. stop reading his ish.

don't tell me you're tired of reading about Marbury

never tired - but can catch that stuff on TMZ

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1/6/2011  2:38 PM
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:berman is an idiot. stop reading his ish.

don't tell me you're tired of reading about Marbury

never tired - but can catch that stuff on TMZ

to get it from someone as fat as Berman you'd have to go to Perez Hilton

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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1/6/2011  2:43 PM
It was picked up on SI too. The worst enemy of these sports writers is the salary cap in the NBA. There are so few writers who have any idea of how to predict trades or signings because the rules are so convoluted .
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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1/6/2011  3:23 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:berman is an idiot. stop reading his ish.

don't tell me you're tired of reading about Marbury

since you want some Ma Bu LI, here you go 'preme:

Stephon Marbury, Entrepreneur, Plans on Staying in China for a While
1/6/11 at 3:00 PM
Ben Sin

There are eight seconds left in a tied game between the Foshan Dralions and Jilin Tigers, Chinese Basketball Association rivals. Foshan's biggest star, Stephon Marbury, has the ball at the top of the key. The fans at Foshan's stadium are nervous, having watched their 33-year-old point guard lead his Dralions (an amalgam of dragons and lions) to a 21-point first-half advantage but then, with a string of errant jumpers and an untimely technical (for shoving a pesky defender), allow the Tigers to get back in the game. Marbury stares down his man for a couple seconds, then goes hard to his right. His defender keeps up, but the former NBA All-Star bumps his way into the key, throws up an off-balanced, falling-away, high-arching floater that caroms off the backboard through the hoop with three seconds left on the clock. One defensive stop later, and the Dralions, one of the youngest teams in Asia's premiere basketball league, are celebrating a victory that pushes their record to 4–6. The fans are ecstatic, chanting "Ma Bu Li" — Chinese characters for "Marbury" — and the hero of the night stands center court, soaking in the love.

Six thousand miles away on the same night, the New York Knicks — Marbury's childhood favorite team and former employers — would pull off a similarly tight victory against the Indiana Pacers. "The Knicks are looking good," Marbury says, watching the game from a suite in the Swiss Hotel, which is his home for the year. "They got some players now, unlike before."

It's been a lonely, isolated life for Marbury since he took his talents to China a year ago. He started with a team in Shanxi, a dusty coal-mining town in the country's interior. After a contract dispute, he signed with Foshan (a coastal city about 550 miles north of Shanghai) last December, just days before the 35-game CBA season kicked off. Known for being surrounded by family and friends, Marbury has none of the former and just a couple of the latter in China. When not practicing or playing basketball, he rarely leaves his hotel for two reasons: One, the average citizen of Foshan does not speak English (when he does go out, he's usually accompanied by Cyril White, his manager, who speaks Mandarin); and two, he can't stand the food.

"The food is, by far, the toughest adjustment for me living in China," he says. "Everything else is all right. I mean, I come from New York; if you can make it there you can make it anywhere." Clichés aside, the Coney Island native has indeed "made it" there in ways many former NBA players have not. Just last month, Ricky Davis, Steve Francis, Javaris Crittenton, and Mike James were all cut by their respective Chinese clubs for various reasons.

"Those guys weren't cut because they couldn't play," White says, pointing out that Crittenton averaged 25 points a game with his club, Zhejiang Guangsha. "It's because those guys wouldn't, or couldn't, adjust to China. Steph is not making China adjust to him, he's adjusting to China." Many see Marbury's China stint as a result of karma for a selfish athlete who burned one too many bridges with NBA ballclubs. It's easy to assume he's in basketball purgatory: playing for a salary that, by NBA standards, is a mere pittance (reportedly $25,000 a month) and living a detached existence, speaking through translators and eating hotel food on a daily basis.

Marbury argues that his journey east is less a last resort than a choice. Considering his uneventful integration into a role as a backup guard for the Celtics in the '09 season and a relatively injury-free past, it does seem possible that he could have continued playing in the NBA. And it's true that if he had to go overseas, he could have chosen to play in one of many beautiful European cities, where the cultural divide is smaller and the distance from home shorter. He's not trying to recapture his days as an alpha player: He's averaging a healthy but modest sixteen points and six assists a game this season while sharing the ball and frequently letting teammates dominate the action.

He says he simply wanted to go to China because he sees playing there as a smarter financial decision. "Why go someplace if it's not going to put you in a situation where you can continue to grow?" he says. "There's definitely going to be a lockout in the NBA after this season. The owners do not want to pay older players, and the players will cave, because they're only focused on now. The owners, they're looking at this long term, like a fifteen-year business investment."

Aside from the potentially imminent NBA salary chaos, he's attracted, like many basketball hustlers, to China's estimated 300 million basketball fans, hoping to infiltrate China's $6 billion dollar athletic-shoe market with his sneakers/apparel line, Starbury. Launched five years ago in a joint venture with retail clothing chain Steve & Barry's, the Starbury brand was meant to offer affordable apparel for those who couldn't afford to pay $150 for a pair of Nikes. Since Steve & Barry's filed for bankruptcy two years ago, Starbury has been dormant. Marbury's goal is to find an investor to help distribute the line, then open standalone stores across the country. He says he'd reached a preliminary agreement with his previous employers in Shanxi to do just that, but the deal fell through, which helped lead to his departure.

His partner in all this is White, a 36-year-old Houston native who's lived in China on and off for over a decade and is a jack-of-all-trades helper for Marbury. Having played in the CBA himself, he understands life as an African-American expat in China. Marbury got in touch with White last summer and he has been the Worldwide Wes to Marbury's Lebron James since — White is at every game, practice, and event and seemingly knows everyone in the league from players and coaches to security guards.

The next morning, as we're watching the Lakers play the Grizzlies in his hotel suite and discussing NBA matters ("I don't know what Kobe's going to do when he hangs them up; that man is all basketball," he quips), Marbury talks about his media-circus departure from New York. "You know, I know everybody thinks I'm crazy," he confesses out of nowhere. "But I don't mind that. It means I'm doing something different from y'all." He says he doesn't regret his Knicks tenure. "It was an opportunity to play basketball in my hometown. It doesn't bother me what that supposedly did to my image. Image is the reflection you see in the mirror. I stayed true to myself throughout my whole basketball career, so when I look in the mirror, I can see myself."

Marbury says he expects to stay in China for decades. He's got a new Chinese-character tattoo of his name on his left arm — just below his famous "Coney Island's Finest" inking. "I'm not looking to come here, make a quick buck, and go home," he says. "I'm looking to be here for the long haul. I'm not expecting Starbury to blow up in the next year, we're going to infiltrate the market slowly. My kids are learning Mandarin; one day they'll be running this company."

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1/6/2011  4:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2011  4:15 PM
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:berman is an idiot. stop reading his ish.

don't tell me you're tired of reading about Marbury

since you want some Ma Bu LI, here you go 'preme:

Stephon Marbury, Entrepreneur, Plans on Staying in China for a While
1/6/11 at 3:00 PM
Ben Sin

I'm unsure if that was a sarcastic post or not... but I finally read the damned thing and it actually was good (or is it dangerous?) article... who know, Marbury, China-based venture capitalist?

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1/6/2011  5:20 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:berman is an idiot. stop reading his ish.

don't tell me you're tired of reading about Marbury

since you want some Ma Bu LI, here you go 'preme:

Stephon Marbury, Entrepreneur, Plans on Staying in China for a While
1/6/11 at 3:00 PM
Ben Sin

I'm unsure if that was a sarcastic post or not... but I finally read the damned thing and it actually was good (or is it dangerous?) article... who know, Marbury, China-based venture capitalist?

marbury may be alot of things bad, but what he is doing w his shoe brand is a good thing imho. china is an emerging market (for the west) and is going through it's industrial revolution now. froma business perspective, marbury is ahead of the curve w what he is doing out there. and basketball is his in. think about it - 300 million basketball fans, over a billion people in china. talk about cornering a market.

marbury is dumb, but not that dumb.....

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1/7/2011  1:08 AM
Doesn't sound like this shoe thing is really working out. I'm not sure how big a draw Marbury is in that country. I mean he's averaging 16/6 in a league where Crittenton averaged 25.

I suppose the Chinese middle class could get turned on by nice American/urban sportswear regardless of the name behind it, but does it have to be Starbury? I mean they manufacture so much of that stuff as it is, cost effectively I might add, so what value is Steph really adding?

I don't know. Steph seems committed to business and surely earned some cash to invest, so he may do well yet in some venture or another. But I'm not sure his brand is the thing to get behind.

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1/7/2011  1:45 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Berman is assuming that Chandler's cap-hold would be something along the lines of a league min salary. That would never happen. We just went through this with Lee. How does he write an article like this without anyone doing any fact checking?

I guess anyone can be a sports writer.

Brandon Tierney & Chris Sheridan talked about the situation w/Wilson & Melo on the ESPN podcast... pretty much what we've been talking about on the forums concerning renouncing Wilson's cap hold to have the cap space to sign Melo & possibility of signing Wilson using his Bird Rights if we can swing a trade for Melo... worth a listen:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=5995558&autoplay=1&callsign=WEPNAM

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Berman doesn't get it... just spitting nonsense again

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