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alau53
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1/3/2011  7:28 PM
im not impressed with mda..he is not a very nice man or fan friendly..if mark jackson were hired when donnie took over we'd be in a better position by not downgrading our assets for future trades and having a better defensive scheme..he should try to get randolph involved more to see what we have..it might all come down to what our star player amare wants..if he tells donnie to make a coaching change, DW might go along with it
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1/3/2011  7:35 PM
i'm not impressed with your post. hey, i have a better idea, let's hire isiah thomas and bring marbury back, those guys are much more competent and fan friendly, they'll lead us to a championship within 2 years.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/3/2011  9:49 PM
orangeblobman wrote:i'm not impressed with your post. hey, i have a better idea, let's hire isiah thomas and bring marbury back, those guys are much more competent and fan friendly, they'll lead us to a championship within 2 years.

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I know that you are joking. Zeke and Marbs back together again as Knicks.

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1/3/2011  10:03 PM
Ugh, another MDA-sucks thread.

MDA has this team playing better ball than we have seen from the Knicks in a decade. In tandem with Amare/Felton he has developed a winning culture in New York. His offensive scheme is very successful and he has managed to dispel the notion that he doesn't care about defense - the team hasn't played playoff level defense like this since the Ewing era. Not saying Jax would have fared worse, but you're not going to make many believers with your "argument". Only five guys can play and not every NBA player brings it on defense.

MDA isn't going away and the Knicks are going to the playoffs. Other than a single blow-out to a Hydra-headed Miami Heat, the Knicks have fought the elite teams to the end and made them earn their victories. I doubt there are too many franchises hoping they draw the Knicks in the first round this season. And if there are, they are delusional and/or need to fire their scouting department.

Do you watch many games?

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1/3/2011  10:17 PM
It's highly likely that some deal is made to add some strength to this roster. Practically anything they add could improve this teams chances to go further in the playoffs, but what happens if they actually do get Melo? You think MDA won't know what to do with a stud like that? Mike gets the MAX out of good to great players, so you can bet that he's gonna figure out how to really get Melo going if he should come here. There's got to be a point at which fans at least give some level of trust and respect to MDA. We're freakin 19-14 for goodness sakes and that's not bad. If we can keep beating the teams we should beat then they should have a good seed in the playoffs and a chance to advance. What more could we ask for at this point?
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1/3/2011  10:38 PM
At 19-14, with a roster created specifically to style of play, we are commited to him as coach, and to his style of Bball. To bring in a new coach and start a new system basically tears our progress apart. True, we could use upgrades. The big in the middle, an experienced PG, the hired gun. We are forced to accept the workings of DW to fill out the team. His stewardship has been mostly positive. We can only sit back and enjoy the journey.
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1/4/2011  12:09 AM
Better with better coach not new.
Zen Master, Pop, Sten VG... yep but they have their own teams.
We get the best we can get. So sleep well.
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nixluva
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1/4/2011  12:43 AM
I don't actually think anyone is better except Jax and Pop. I think MDA is as good as any other top NBA coach. He just flies against the conventional thinking. Funny thing is that the Spurs have decided to run more this year and the Magic just basically doubled down on the same style we're playing. They added 3pt shooters and play 4-1, taking the same amount of 3's we do. We're not out of step with what the thinking is on other teams. We just don't have the rebounding the better teams have. If Amar'e was a bigtime rebounder and also Turiaf, things might look a lot better. Unfortunately most of our guys are weak rebounders. If Fields wasn't helping out we'd be even worse. I guess maybe we should've appreciated Lee's rebounding after all.
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1/4/2011  8:18 AM
nixluva wrote:I don't actually think anyone is better except Jax and Pop. I think MDA is as good as any other top NBA coach. He just flies against the conventional thinking. Funny thing is that the Spurs have decided to run more this year and the Magic just basically doubled down on the same style we're playing. They added 3pt shooters and play 4-1, taking the same amount of 3's we do. We're not out of step with what the thinking is on other teams. We just don't have the rebounding the better teams have. If Amar'e was a bigtime rebounder and also Turiaf, things might look a lot better. Unfortunately most of our guys are weak rebounders. If Fields wasn't helping out we'd be even worse. I guess maybe we should've appreciated Lee's rebounding after all.

Great points!

This is a MDA team and will be. Everyone wanted to have a winning record. So now they do and some of you are still satisfied that at least things are going in the right direction. Yes, I do think this style can win a ring, as I see enough emphasis on D. The team simply still lacks players. A big,a real shooting 2 and a true backup pg. I love Fields but he is a 6th man not a starter. Also Chandler is not a 4 but is doing a heck of a job right now and actually fits what MDA wants to play.

I was just thinking of a big who would fit this team perfectly. What about Okur? He has been out since last year and Utah keeps winning. They have Al Jef and Milsap, AK47 and a few other bigs. Perhaps they would consider dealing him? Oops he is owed 11M next year.....forget it!

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1/4/2011  8:20 AM
nixluva wrote:I don't actually think anyone is better except Jax and Pop. I think MDA is as good as any other top NBA coach. He just flies against the conventional thinking. Funny thing is that the Spurs have decided to run more this year and the Magic just basically doubled down on the same style we're playing. They added 3pt shooters and play 4-1, taking the same amount of 3's we do. We're not out of step with what the thinking is on other teams. We just don't have the rebounding the better teams have. If Amar'e was a bigtime rebounder and also Turiaf, things might look a lot better. Unfortunately most of our guys are weak rebounders. If Fields wasn't helping out we'd be even worse. I guess maybe we should've appreciated Lee's rebounding after all.

Lee was great at rebounding because he started positioning for the rebound instead of playing defense.

Anyway, agree with the sentiment here.. MDA is a top-flight coach. We definitely need some more interior girth, strength, and depth. Too bad those types of players tend to be favorites of their teams.

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1/4/2011  9:09 AM
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I don't like the way Mike D use his bench. He calls time out when we are down 15 points instead when something is going wrong nip it fast. I don't like the way he treats some players. AR was to be a stud. Now he can't even get in a game. What is a coaches duties. One is to help develope players. Mike D will never take this team to the promised land because he is about himself. Too stubborn. He thinks he can shoot his was to a championship and he is wrong.

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orangeblobman
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1/4/2011  9:14 AM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I don't like the way Mike D use his bench. He calls time out when we are down 15 points instead when something is going wrong nip it fast. I don't like the way he treats some players. AR was to be a stud. Now he can't even get in a game. What is a coaches duties. One is to help develope players. Mike D will never take this team to the promised land because he is about himself. Too stubborn. He thinks he can shoot his was to a championship and he is wrong.

Oh no, a coach that thinks putting the ball in the bucket can win games. I thought that was the point of basketball, to put the buckets in. Coach developed his players to a cumulative billion dollars, at least, during his coaching career. Players developing under him get the cash money, papa. How many players are 'to be' studs but never materialize. Just because he dropped some buckets on a loosey goosey, no-accountability Warriors squad last year doesn't mean he can meaningfully contribute on a playoff team. Coach Mike is coaching the kid, he's molding him into a True Baller, someone that can put up the buckets and do it in a way that benefits the overall chemistry, that works within the greater scheme of a winning club.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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