I'm not saying they would make that trade because they're crazy and probably would ask for us to take back Roy to get Camby, but for a normal GM I think that trade would make sense.

We are not going to contend this year - should we make a run at the playoffs? Yes, but we will not beat the Heat, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs etc. You want to use the chips in these trades to stockpile for the future, not a win now move.

Do I think Camby would be awesome here? Sure but he wouldnt be a long term solution and the cost would be too high.

How many years is STAT going to be a dominant force? You can't just assume that he'll be this good in the 5th year of this deal. There should be some urgency to make a run now or at the very least in 2011.

JohnWallace44 wrote:I guess I'd rather have Camby for two years along with Chandler than to add Carmelo minus Chandler and have pieces still missing to make a playoff push.

How many years is STAT going to be a dominant force? You can't just assume that he'll be this good in the 5th year of this deal. There should be some urgency to make a run now or at the very least in 2011.

I've mentioned the same thing before, regarding Amare.

50% of his game revolves around speed and athleticism, at least. If we don't make BIG moves to bring serious pieces, signing him was just a PR move. Grab the big name, no matter the cost and settle on first round exits.

Walsh could shock everyone; go big or go home! We may never see another big man in NY with the complete package that Amare brings (F Chris Webber). Why waste it, because we're affraid to trade the potential of four small forwards? One rookie, one doesn't play and the other two are the very definition of inconsistant.

All-In example:

Moving Wilson, Landry and possibly AR/pick for Melo. What good is being 10-11 deep, when we only play 8-9, right? AR's value will get worse and Landry could sorta be replaced by Williams/Walker. Hear me out...

Then you could argue packaging say Gallo and Azu for Varejao.

That leaves: Varejao, Stat, Melo, (pick1)Walker/Williams/Rautins/Mason, Felton

With a bench of: Douglas, Turiaf and whoever's playing best.

That team is NBA Live filthy... Nasty inside 1-2 punch, the mid-range master in Melo, Felton runnin' things and decent 3pt bombers between Walker and Williams.

gr33d wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:I guess I'd rather have Camby for two years along with Chandler than to add Carmelo minus Chandler and have pieces still missing to make a playoff push.

How many years is STAT going to be a dominant force? You can't just assume that he'll be this good in the 5th year of this deal. There should be some urgency to make a run now or at the very least in 2011.

I've mentioned the same thing before, regarding Amare.

50% of his game revolves around speed and athleticism, at least. If we don't make BIG moves to bring serious pieces, signing him was just a PR move. Grab the big name, no matter the cost and settle on first round exits.

Walsh could shock everyone; go big or go home! We may never see another big man in NY with the complete package that Amare brings (F Chris Webber). Why waste it, because we're affraid to trade the potential of four small forwards? One rookie, one doesn't play and the other two are the very definition of inconsistant.

All-In example:

Moving Wilson, Landry and possibly AR/pick for Melo. What good is being 10-11 deep, when we only play 8-9, right? AR's value will get worse and Landry could sorta be replaced by Williams/Walker. Hear me out...

Then you could argue packaging say Gallo and Azu for Varejao.

That leaves: Varejao, Stat, Melo, (pick1)Walker/Williams/Rautins/Mason, Felton

With a bench of: Douglas, Turiaf and whoever's playing best.

That team is NBA Live filthy... Nasty inside 1-2 punch, the mid-range master in Melo, Felton runnin' things and decent 3pt bombers between Walker and Williams.

That team is getting creamed in the playoffs.

alau53 wrote:i hated the mcdyss trade in '02..i hated giving up 7th pick and camby for mcdyss and frank williams..the 7th pick could have been amare and we'd have had camby and amare the last 8 seasons

I understood why Camby was traded, he put up some great numbers but he couldn't stay healthy. It was that awful deal like you said. I remember watching the draft and couldn't believe that they traded a high draft pick for Dice. He was out for most of the previous season so its not like he had already shown that he had recovered like Stat. It was a desperation move and it showed.

gr33d wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

gr33d wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:I guess I'd rather have Camby for two years along with Chandler than to add Carmelo minus Chandler and have pieces still missing to make a playoff push.

How many years is STAT going to be a dominant force? You can't just assume that he'll be this good in the 5th year of this deal. There should be some urgency to make a run now or at the very least in 2011.

I've mentioned the same thing before, regarding Amare.

50% of his game revolves around speed and athleticism, at least. If we don't make BIG moves to bring serious pieces, signing him was just a PR move. Grab the big name, no matter the cost and settle on first round exits.

Walsh could shock everyone; go big or go home! We may never see another big man in NY with the complete package that Amare brings (F Chris Webber). Why waste it, because we're affraid to trade the potential of four small forwards? One rookie, one doesn't play and the other two are the very definition of inconsistant.

All-In example:

Moving Wilson, Landry and possibly AR/pick for Melo. What good is being 10-11 deep, when we only play 8-9, right? AR's value will get worse and Landry could sorta be replaced by Williams/Walker. Hear me out...

Then you could argue packaging say Gallo and Azu for Varejao.

That leaves: Varejao, Stat, Melo, (pick1)Walker/Williams/Rautins/Mason, Felton

With a bench of: Douglas, Turiaf and whoever's playing best.

That team is NBA Live filthy... Nasty inside 1-2 punch, the mid-range master in Melo, Felton runnin' things and decent 3pt bombers between Walker and Williams.

That team is getting creamed in the playoffs.

We will see, but I wouldn't put money on that.

And now that Melo declined Denvers extension, it's time for Walsh to get to work.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/70929/20110103/source_carmelo_again_tells_denver_he_will_not_re_sign/

Varegaeo is overrated and NOT a starting center. He would hardly improve the defense. Our scoring would still be good, but I'm not convinced that it will be superior to what we have now. Maybe slightly better than what we have now, and the way we see it, we are close to unstoppable when it comes to scoring and it will only get better as Gallo and hopefully AR continue to improve.

Trade that for Carmello and Anderson, and we're screwed and we wont be able to compete on the defensive end. We'd have 4 consistent defensive players and 3 of them are role players.

There's no way I'd make those moves.