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earthmansurfer
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1/1/2011  10:58 AM
This scenario is if Melo comes as a free agent. Then we can't afford to keep Chandler.

Well, what if we were to move Chandler along with another contract for a high end young player on a rookie contract?

Imagine a team that is in rebuilding mode with talented young players, wouldn't they move one (say a center or 2G) for Chandler who is quite young hiimself? At least then we have something to show for "losing" Chandler. This is essentially what we did with David Lee. I don't want to trade Chandler or penalize him in any way, but this is a way for a team that does not attract free agents to get a good and proven player.

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1/1/2011  11:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2011  11:52 AM
The Mayor is on the threshold of being an all star

The Knicks have a 6'8 240 pound, talented, powerful and unselfish yoot. He is showing signs of maturity, consistency and productivity and the best one can offer is yet another scenario where he takes his talents someplace else?

C'mon Man!

Watch him grow and stop the madness

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1/1/2011  11:50 AM
rename this thread, thank you for the memories cause ny cant afford wilson thread. i agree with earth we need to trade chandler to benefit ny now, while chandler stock is sky high. cause come offseason, chandler's agent will be cashing in on the wil.i.am stock.
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1/1/2011  12:08 PM
Wilson Chandler stats against this row of tough opponents

7 games versus Mia 2 Boston Orlando Denver Ok Chicago

Wilson Chandler 21.1 points 8.4 rebounds 2 assists 1.4 steals 1.5 blocks 53.7% shooting

How do you do much better? How many wing guards can shoot almost 54% while avg 21 points and still pull down 8.5 rebounds with minimal TO's against the elite of the nBA? And he is asked to guard people ranging from 7-2 to 6-2 and giving you good D. At 23 years old? The *net* from trading off Chandler for Carmelo would not be very much. And obviously that would have to include 3-4 other upper tier assets leaving us capped out and void of assets for many needs.

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1/1/2011  12:09 PM
misterearl wrote:The Mayor is on the threshold of being an all star

The Knicks have a 6'8 240 pound, talented, powerful and unselfish yoot. He is showing signs of maturity, consistency and productivity and the best one can offer is yet another scenario where he takes his talents someplace else?

C'mon Man!

Watch him grow and stop the madness


You could just as easily be talking about keeping Lee vs getting Amare and having 30-something win seasons in perpetuity.

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1/1/2011  12:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Wilson Chandler stats against this row of tough opponents

7 games versus Mia 2 Boston Orlando Denver Ok Chicago

Wilson Chandler 21.1 points 8.4 rebounds 2 assists 1.4 steals 1.5 blocks 53.7% shooting

How do you do much better? How many wing guards can shoot almost 54% while avg 21 points and still pull down 8.5 rebounds with minimal TO's against the elite of the nBA? And he is asked to guard people ranging from 7-2 to 6-2 and giving you good D. At 23 years old? The *net* from trading off Chandler for Carmelo would not be very much. And obviously that would have to include 3-4 other upper tier assets leaving us capped out and void of assets for many needs.

Simply put Chandler is a keeper. He shows up to play vs elite teams. We can't say that about Gallo. To me it about keeping Chandler and dealing for Melo right now. Chandler's versatility allows him to play multiple position from sg, sf, pf. He will only compliment Melo because all Will ever does is make positive contributions.

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1/1/2011  12:41 PM
Just like lee. We missed the boat on chandler. Should ve locked him up. Now he's trade bait.
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1/1/2011  12:56 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:This scenario is if Melo comes as a free agent. Then we can't afford to keep Chandler.

Well, what if we were to move Chandler along with another contract for a high end young player on a rookie contract?

Imagine a team that is in rebuilding mode with talented young players, wouldn't they move one (say a center or 2G) for Chandler who is quite young hiimself? At least then we have something to show for "losing" Chandler. This is essentially what we did with David Lee. I don't want to trade Chandler or penalize him in any way, but this is a way for a team that does not attract free agents to get a good and proven player.

a rebuilding team is not gonna want to trade their cheap young talent for someone like Wilson who is due to make a big raise in his upcoming contract... u have to look at teams that want to unload a big contract of their own while getting back a player who can help to fill the void left behind by that player's departure for less money.

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1/1/2011  1:14 PM
TMS wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:This scenario is if Melo comes as a free agent. Then we can't afford to keep Chandler.

Well, what if we were to move Chandler along with another contract for a high end young player on a rookie contract?

Imagine a team that is in rebuilding mode with talented young players, wouldn't they move one (say a center or 2G) for Chandler who is quite young hiimself? At least then we have something to show for "losing" Chandler. This is essentially what we did with David Lee. I don't want to trade Chandler or penalize him in any way, but this is a way for a team that does not attract free agents to get a good and proven player.

a rebuilding team is not gonna want to trade their cheap young talent for someone like Wilson who is due to make a big raise in his upcoming contract... u have to look at teams that want to unload a big contract of their own while getting back a player who can help to fill the void left behind by that player's departure for less money.

Its possible if the young talent hasn't reach potential yet. IMO Philly would think very long and hard about a Evan Turner for Chandler swap right now. As would Minny and Wesley Johnson, Clippers with Aminu, Indy with George, Memphis with Henry, OKC with Harden, Toronto with Derozen, Memphis with Mayo, Kings with Thompson.

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1/1/2011  1:16 PM
Maybe not Derozen
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1/1/2011  1:35 PM
The draft is before free agency so I believe they have the option of moving Chandler for a lottery pick to a team with cap space as well as collecting a trade exemption.
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1/1/2011  1:35 PM
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Wilson Chandler stats against this row of tough opponents

7 games versus Mia 2 Boston Orlando Denver Ok Chicago

Wilson Chandler 21.1 points 8.4 rebounds 2 assists 1.4 steals 1.5 blocks 53.7% shooting

How do you do much better? How many wing guards can shoot almost 54% while avg 21 points and still pull down 8.5 rebounds with minimal TO's against the elite of the nBA? And he is asked to guard people ranging from 7-2 to 6-2 and giving you good D. At 23 years old? The *net* from trading off Chandler for Carmelo would not be very much. And obviously that would have to include 3-4 other upper tier assets leaving us capped out and void of assets for many needs.

Simply put Chandler is a keeper. He shows up to play vs elite teams. We can't say that about Gallo. To me it about keeping Chandler and dealing for Melo right now. Chandler's versatility allows him to play multiple position from sg, sf, pf. He will only compliment Melo because all Will ever does is make positive contributions.

you have to be kidding me with this.... will compliments melo? rofl.. how? melo will come here and tell chandler to get the hell out of the way, and justifiably so.. chandler will go to the bench... as we should be starting a center, and amare back at PF.. chandler is NOT A SG..!! they can guard him, but he can't guard them.. that is huge...

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1/1/2011  1:36 PM
blkexec wrote:Just like lee. We missed the boat on chandler. Should ve locked him up. Now he's trade bait.

how did we miss he boat on lee? come on man..

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1/1/2011  1:39 PM
BlueSeats - Wilson Chandler has a more diverse skill set than David Lee.

The Mayor blocks shots, he can rebound in traffic, he finishes strong around the rim, he shoots nearly 50 per cent and he has better three point range than David Lee ever dreamed.

And I loved David Lee.

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1/1/2011  1:40 PM
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Wilson Chandler stats against this row of tough opponents

7 games versus Mia 2 Boston Orlando Denver Ok Chicago

Wilson Chandler 21.1 points 8.4 rebounds 2 assists 1.4 steals 1.5 blocks 53.7% shooting

How do you do much better? How many wing guards can shoot almost 54% while avg 21 points and still pull down 8.5 rebounds with minimal TO's against the elite of the nBA? And he is asked to guard people ranging from 7-2 to 6-2 and giving you good D. At 23 years old? The *net* from trading off Chandler for Carmelo would not be very much. And obviously that would have to include 3-4 other upper tier assets leaving us capped out and void of assets for many needs.

Simply put Chandler is a keeper. He shows up to play vs elite teams. We can't say that about Gallo. To me it about keeping Chandler and dealing for Melo right now. Chandler's versatility allows him to play multiple position from sg, sf, pf. He will only compliment Melo because all Will ever does is make positive contributions.

HOGWASH!!

go look back at the 3 consecutive games vs Denver, Boston and Miami, in mid december.. gallo had 16,20/,25 points respectively.. are you just making stuff up as you go along?

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1/1/2011  1:45 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
TMS wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:This scenario is if Melo comes as a free agent. Then we can't afford to keep Chandler.

Well, what if we were to move Chandler along with another contract for a high end young player on a rookie contract?

Imagine a team that is in rebuilding mode with talented young players, wouldn't they move one (say a center or 2G) for Chandler who is quite young hiimself? At least then we have something to show for "losing" Chandler. This is essentially what we did with David Lee. I don't want to trade Chandler or penalize him in any way, but this is a way for a team that does not attract free agents to get a good and proven player.

a rebuilding team is not gonna want to trade their cheap young talent for someone like Wilson who is due to make a big raise in his upcoming contract... u have to look at teams that want to unload a big contract of their own while getting back a player who can help to fill the void left behind by that player's departure for less money.

Its possible if the young talent hasn't reach potential yet. IMO Philly would think very long and hard about a Evan Turner for Chandler swap right now. As would Minny and Wesley Johnson, Clippers with Aminu, Indy with George, Memphis with Henry, OKC with Harden, Toronto with Derozen, Memphis with Mayo, Kings with Thompson.

personally i think the only deal Philly would be interested in Wilson for is to unload Andre Iguodala's contract, or maybe in a salary dump of Elton Brand i could see Evan Turner being included as part of a larger deal... but i guess i see your point with some other teams that you listed... as a Knicks fan though, i don't think any of those guys are as good as Wilson & wouldn't wanna trade him for any of them w/the possible exception of Wes Johnson.

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1/1/2011  1:48 PM
misterearl wrote:BlueSeats - Wilson Chandler has a more diverse skill set than David Lee.

The Mayor blocks shots, he can rebound in traffic, he finishes strong around the rim, he shoots nearly 50 per cent and he has better three point range than David Lee ever dreamed.

And I loved David Lee.

Many thought Lee was Amare-lite at a discount, and the upgrade to Amare wouldn't justify the cost. Now we hear the same argument about Chandler, that he's Carmelo-lite and the upgrade to Carmelo wouldn't justify the cost.

They were wrong about Lee/Amare, what if they're wrong about Melo/Chill?

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1/1/2011  1:48 PM
tkf wrote:
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Wilson Chandler stats against this row of tough opponents

7 games versus Mia 2 Boston Orlando Denver Ok Chicago

Wilson Chandler 21.1 points 8.4 rebounds 2 assists 1.4 steals 1.5 blocks 53.7% shooting

How do you do much better? How many wing guards can shoot almost 54% while avg 21 points and still pull down 8.5 rebounds with minimal TO's against the elite of the nBA? And he is asked to guard people ranging from 7-2 to 6-2 and giving you good D. At 23 years old? The *net* from trading off Chandler for Carmelo would not be very much. And obviously that would have to include 3-4 other upper tier assets leaving us capped out and void of assets for many needs.

Simply put Chandler is a keeper. He shows up to play vs elite teams. We can't say that about Gallo. To me it about keeping Chandler and dealing for Melo right now. Chandler's versatility allows him to play multiple position from sg, sf, pf. He will only compliment Melo because all Will ever does is make positive contributions.

you have to be kidding me with this.... will compliments melo? rofl.. how? melo will come here and tell chandler to get the hell out of the way, and justifiably so.. chandler will go to the bench... as we should be starting a center, and amare back at PF.. chandler is NOT A SG..!! they can guard him, but he can't guard them.. that is huge...

MDA is playing Wilson at PF.

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1/1/2011  1:51 PM
cheers wrote:rename this thread, thank you for the memories cause ny cant afford wilson thread. i agree with earth we need to trade chandler to benefit ny now, while chandler stock is sky high. cause come offseason, chandler's agent will be cashing in on the wil.i.am stock.

Papabear Says

How in the hell can San Antonio, Miami , Dallas, Boston, LA,Orlando, afford to keep all of their stars and you are saying we can't afford Chandler. Hell the other teams are over the cap, We use Bird rights. But don't tell me we can't afford Chandler after all the money the Knicks threw away on garbage.

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1/1/2011  1:54 PM
TMS wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
TMS wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:This scenario is if Melo comes as a free agent. Then we can't afford to keep Chandler.

Well, what if we were to move Chandler along with another contract for a high end young player on a rookie contract?

Imagine a team that is in rebuilding mode with talented young players, wouldn't they move one (say a center or 2G) for Chandler who is quite young hiimself? At least then we have something to show for "losing" Chandler. This is essentially what we did with David Lee. I don't want to trade Chandler or penalize him in any way, but this is a way for a team that does not attract free agents to get a good and proven player.

a rebuilding team is not gonna want to trade their cheap young talent for someone like Wilson who is due to make a big raise in his upcoming contract... u have to look at teams that want to unload a big contract of their own while getting back a player who can help to fill the void left behind by that player's departure for less money.

Its possible if the young talent hasn't reach potential yet. IMO Philly would think very long and hard about a Evan Turner for Chandler swap right now. As would Minny and Wesley Johnson, Clippers with Aminu, Indy with George, Memphis with Henry, OKC with Harden, Toronto with Derozen, Memphis with Mayo, Kings with Thompson.

personally i think the only deal Philly would be interested in Wilson for is to unload Andre Iguodala's contract, or maybe in a salary dump of Elton Brand i could see Evan Turner being included as part of a larger deal... but i guess i see your point with some other teams that you listed... as a Knicks fan though, i don't think any of those guys are as good as Wilson & wouldn't wanna trade him for any of them w/the possible exception of Wes Johnson.

scratch Minny off the list.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14486778/rebuilding-turning-into-lengthy-process-for-timberwolves

Kahn, speaking to CBSSports.com on Tuesday, said he is still evaluating the roster but isn't under any restrictions from owner Glen Taylor that prohibit him from making trades to improve the team.

"Money's not an issue," Kahn said. "Glen's been very clear and he's allowed me full latitude to do what we need to do. We're operating the way we're operating because I felt it was the right thing to do with the uncertain labor agreement. I like having the number low so we have flexibility when the new labor agreement comes out."

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