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GustavBahler
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12/31/2010  4:02 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ammpwx1bZS_tFe0.dP0o4_a8vLYF?slug=aw-anthonynuggets123010

The Denver Nuggets believe the New Jersey Nets are so desperate to make a deal for Carmelo Anthony(notes) that they’re holding firm on a trade demand of five future first-round draft picks as part of a package to land the All-Star forward, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

“Denver needs to get real,” one front-office executive said. “That’s not happening.”
The Nets have so far balked at the Nuggets' steep demands for Carmelo Anthony.


Even so, Nuggets owner Josh Kroenke and general manager Masai Ujiri privately insist they’re going to make a team pay a steep price for their franchise player. After a moratorium on Anthony talks because of the death of his sister and the holidays, the Nuggets and Nets will resume discussions next week. There’s still too much posturing to believe a deal can be consummated in the short-term.
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The Portland Trail Blazers and Cleveland Cavaliers have been part of the multiteam talks, but so far nothing has come together. Nevertheless, the Nets won’t back away: They’ll chase Anthony until they get him or Denver moves him somewhere else.

Ujiri came to Denver from a scouting background, and rival front-office executives believe he’s more comfortable trading for draft picks than veteran players. So far, that’s the advantage the Nets have over the New York Knicks – the control of several more future draft picks.

For now, the Nuggets want New Jersey to take Al Harrington(notes) and Renaldo Balkman(notes) as part of a package for Anthony, but they want the Nets to find another team for Troy Murphy(notes) and his $12 million expiring contract, and that’s proved fruitless so far. The Nuggets would love a package that includes New Jersey’s rookie forward Derrick Favors(notes) and Portland forward Nicolas Batum(notes), but Blazers GM Rich Cho has shown no inclination to include him in a deal.

Cleveland is part of the talks because of its $14.5 million trade exception, and one rival front-office executive says, “they want [a lot] for it.”

The Nets would have to move Devin Harris(notes) to a third team as part of a bigger deal, but league sources say they’ve had trouble finding an arrangement where they could get a quality point guard in return. Andre Miller(notes) has been discussed, but that probably isn’t happening without Batum as part of a bigger deal.

The Charlotte Bobcats had been eager to trade point guard D.J. Augustin(notes) – and had considered separate deals with the Los Angeles Clippers and Blazers – but league sources say owner Michael Jordan has backed away from moving Augustin in the short term because new coach Paul Silas likes him and has been willing to let him play faster and looser than Larry Brown did.


The Knicks are still in the picture for Anthony – and remain his preferred destination – but the Nuggets believe the best possible deal for the disgruntled star will come from the Nets. Anthony would have to be willing to sign his three-year, $65 million extension for the Nets to agree to a deal for him. The Knicks have salary-cap space to sign him as a free agent this summer, but that could cost him millions in future earnings once a new collective bargaining agreement is reached between the owners and players.

One way or another, Anthony will be traded before the Feb. 24 deadline and will sign an extension with his new team.

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12/31/2010  4:03 PM
Five picks? I'll give 'em 2 and they would be lucky to get that.

What did Cavs get for LeBron? Nothing. Nuggets suck, man.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/31/2010  4:32 PM
orangeblobman wrote:Five picks? I'll give 'em 2 and they would be lucky to get that.

What did Cavs get for LeBron? Nothing. Nuggets suck, man.

Cleveland got picks for Lebron.

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12/31/2010  4:36 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Five picks? I'll give 'em 2 and they would be lucky to get that.

What did Cavs get for LeBron? Nothing. Nuggets suck, man.

Cleveland got picks for Lebron.

What? How? How many?

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/31/2010  4:38 PM
This all rests with Carmello. Can you imagine being him and going to NJ and all that is there is essentially Lopez??? And their draft picks are gone. Essentially he will be depending on FA and if that doesn't happen,... BOOM, all over.

We have to bid and bid carefully. I really do trust Walsh here, perfect GM to have when considering a big trade. He won't rape the team of talent in order to get Melo.
Is the deadline Feb 19th again?

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12/31/2010  4:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/31/2010  4:52 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:This all rests with Carmello. Can you imagine being him and going to NJ and all that is there is essentially Lopez??? And their draft picks are gone. Essentially he will be depending on FA and if that doesn't happen,... BOOM, all over.

We have to bid and bid carefully. I really do trust Walsh here, perfect GM to have when considering a big trade. He won't rape the team of talent in order to get Melo.
Is the deadline Feb 19th again?

I trust Donnie too. Here is a list of some of his trades before the Knicks, we all know about his awesome wheeling and dealing with the Knicks. Check it out, he's a master trader:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=8035

He traded a bum Herb Williams for Detlef! He traded Pooh for Mark Jackson, what?!?! Pooh's a bum, man.Dale Davis for J. O'Neal??!?!? What!? Trades Jalen Rose and Travis Best for Brad Miller and Ron Artest (with Kevin Ollie and Ron Mercer). ZOMG!

Prediction: DONNIE WALSH, 2011, Trades Billy Walker for Carmelo Anthony!

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=8035#ixzz19jEslJSy

And the deadline is February 24: Trade deadline, 3 p.m. ET

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/31/2010  4:56 PM
Denver wants 5 picks in an expanded Multi-team deal that involves Carmelo to the Nets with other players. As I said in another thread for all we know the other player could be Nene.

5 low first round picks isnt that big of a deal.

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12/31/2010  5:08 PM
this is just posturing. melo won't get dealt til february.
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12/31/2010  5:51 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Five picks? I'll give 'em 2 and they would be lucky to get that.

What did Cavs get for LeBron? Nothing. Nuggets suck, man.

Cleveland got picks for Lebron.

What? How? How many?


I believe Miamia gave up 4 1st round picks in S & Ts to get Bosh and Lebron--two to CLE and two to TOR.
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12/31/2010  7:08 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Denver wants 5 picks in an expanded Multi-team deal that involves Carmelo to the Nets with other players. As I said in another thread for all we know the other player could be Nene.

5 low first round picks isnt that big of a deal.

If we could somehow land Nene then that fixes our center problem and fast. I really don't want to give up Mos as I think he can be the missing piece with Melo on this team, but not for another year or two.

I think our best bet is to keep Chandler and somehow trade Gallo, AR (picks), Buiki, Curry and some minor pieces for Carmello but it will take waiting till the last minute. Not sure it gets done, but if we are going to compete against Miami, our only chance is to keep Fields and one of Chandler or Gallo. I would hold onto Chandler because he is better on both sides of the ball, but Gallo's IQ would work wonders out there.

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12/31/2010  8:04 PM
Looks like they're trying to latch on to any possible miniscule amount of leverage they can.
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12/31/2010  8:17 PM
Well if the nets get Melo those would be low first round picks but 5 is a bit crazy. I don't think this will happen and I trust Walsh to find the right package for Denver if they will even talk to us. But Denver is negotiating from a position of weakness and exposing themselves, aka they being greedy and stupid.
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12/31/2010  8:52 PM
I hate to hear stuff like that, cuz it's almost impossible to deal with someone that isn't being reasonable. How can you satisfy someone that wants the world for something that isn't that valuable? Sure Melo is a prized star player, but you have to be realistic. This isn't the kind of market where you're likely to get that much for a guy that is good but not the best in the league.

My confidence level is very low that we'll end up with the guy, given Denver's attitude in negotiating a deal.

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12/31/2010  9:15 PM
nixluva wrote:I hate to hear stuff like that, cuz it's almost impossible to deal with someone that isn't being reasonable. How can you satisfy someone that wants the world for something that isn't that valuable? Sure Melo is a prized star player, but you have to be realistic. This isn't the kind of market where you're likely to get that much for a guy that is good but not the best in the league.

My confidence level is very low that we'll end up with the guy, given Denver's attitude in negotiating a deal.

Papabear Says

Denver don't have the final word on this. If it didn't matter where Melo wanted to go this deal would have been done. If Melo does not come to New York he won't sign the contract extention. It ain't about the money. This is about him wanting to be a free agent to go where he wants to.

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12/31/2010  11:53 PM
Why don't they ask for 20 and a few firstborns? Might as well take it all the way when they want to be ridiculous.
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1/1/2011  6:34 AM
5 first round picks is not the same as 5 lottery picks, which they are NOT getting. The only lotto picks coming from Jersey will be their own. The other picks are late 1st round picks. I'd rather have an early second round pick for $$ reasons. They could sell late 1st's for 3 million but is that that big a deal?
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1/1/2011  11:24 AM
What Walsh could do, is come in with an offer of cash equivalent of two first round picks along with one future pick and whatever package of players we end up trading.
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1/1/2011  11:46 AM
rename this thread nugs want 500 picks from nets. since that is how unlikely getting that many picks from any team is.
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