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12/30/2010  10:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/31/2010  5:56 AM
we were due for a melo to ny thread.

add magic to the list of teams SSOL does not work on; turkoglu, arenas, redick, anderson, richardson can play that game all day. ny needs star power. Childs2Dudley in game thread said it right we have seen these come from behind moral victories from the knicks before. its old. we are not going to turn mda into a good manager of minutes any time soon.. stat collecting early fouls, time for timo and ar. not midget ball.

GET MELO HERE NOW give mda stars. he can win with that. you give mda a team of stars he will bring home the gold.

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12/30/2010  10:03 PM
We don't just need a guy like Melo, we need another big that is effective too. SOmeone to back up Amar'e. I Like this team, but there are some obvious holes and it just makes things tougher. I really like the team we have but one thing is made painfully obvious, is if Amar'e is on the bench we have nothing strong to go up against other teams with.
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12/30/2010  10:09 PM
as much as i like the guy, Gallo is simply way too inconsistent... if we want to contend for championships anytime soon, we need to replace him w/a more consistent scorer... Shawne Williams & TD are good enough spot up perimeter shooters to fill that role, & we have Rautins on the bench who has yet to show what he can do... it's a serious issue when 1 of your main core guys is so hit or miss every night... after u address this issue, u can go to work on adding more depth to the bench using salary exceptions during the summer.
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12/30/2010  10:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/31/2010  6:04 AM
nixluva wrote:We don't just need a guy like Melo, we need another big that is effective too. SOmeone to back up Amar'e. I Like this team, but there are some obvious holes and it just makes things tougher. I really like the team we have but one thing is made painfully obvious, is if Amar'e is on the bench we have nothing strong to go up against other teams with.

i do not trust if you gave mda new bench players, he will play them. mda is the king of dnp.

when amar'e sits on the bench it is hard to counter a team like the magic shot for shot. that is when you send in the trees ar and timo to get in the face of the magic. if you cant beat them shot for shot, stop them from shooting. physically it is pretty fug difficult to shoot over 6'11 ar and 7'1 timo. charles barkley said during halftime when the opposing team sends out a small player to guard your shot, it is a sign of disrespect. it is also a sign of stupidity to do that against an orlando team deep with shooters, and a center named dwight howard.

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12/30/2010  10:28 PM
We certainly need another big, but if we're going to blow our FA assets on him he needs to be able to score.

When Amear scores 30+ our record is 9-4.

Under 30 = 9-10

I don't think it's fair or realistic to expect monster games from the dude every night. He needs hep' now.

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12/30/2010  11:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/30/2010  11:03 PM
TMS wrote:as much as i like the guy, Gallo is simply way too inconsistent... if we want to contend for championships anytime soon, we need to replace him w/a more consistent scorer... Shawne Williams & TD are good enough spot up perimeter shooters to fill that role, & we have Rautins on the bench who has yet to show what he can do... it's a serious issue when 1 of your main core guys is so hit or miss every night... after u address this issue, u can go to work on adding more depth to the bench using salary exceptions during the summer.

Tremendous point..I really don't ever see Gallo as being a big consistent offensive threat in this league..He's never gonna be that player. If it were up to me, I'd shop him hard this offseason, either for Melo or for something else --- if I came up with a deal that made sense to me, I'd send him and Michelle Trachtenberg both packin'..I've seen enough to know that Gallinari IS NOT some untradeable component here.

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12/31/2010  1:20 AM
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:as much as i like the guy, Gallo is simply way too inconsistent... if we want to contend for championships anytime soon, we need to replace him w/a more consistent scorer... Shawne Williams & TD are good enough spot up perimeter shooters to fill that role, & we have Rautins on the bench who has yet to show what he can do... it's a serious issue when 1 of your main core guys is so hit or miss every night... after u address this issue, u can go to work on adding more depth to the bench using salary exceptions during the summer.

Tremendous point..I really don't ever see Gallo as being a big consistent offensive threat in this league..He's never gonna be that player. If it were up to me, I'd shop him hard this offseason, either for Melo or for something else --- if I came up with a deal that made sense to me, I'd send him and Michelle Trachtenberg both packin'..I've seen enough to know that Gallinari IS NOT some untradeable component here.

i havent seen enough of gallo. i do think mda is the wrong coach for gallo, and for any team not an olympic team. his relationship with gallo they are bff. his relationship with ar is passive aggressive. i like stan's style of coaching he is grumpy with everyone, even dwight. and he will play everyone. of all the magic active players there was just one dnp from stan van gundy.

knicks do not need a coach who will be your best friend or worst enemy. to me that is not good coaching chemistry.

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12/31/2010  1:37 AM
There's no issue with the Coach IMO. I think Stan has actually stolen many of his offensive concepts from Mike. He even said that he thought his Magic players had slowed down too much and he wanted them to run more. He's basically doing just about everything we do and his team shoots as many 3's as we do. I think the level of effectiveness is very similar between both coaches. Stan has a better roster. When we finally upgrade our roster then we'll see who you'd actually prefer as coach. Something tells me that if we added Melo and a started beating teams you wouldn't have a negative thing to say about Mike.

If we had enough good players, then no one would be talking about trying to get Melo. So who cares about the guys on the bench he doesn't play when it's likely those guys aren't the difference between us being Elite or 2nd Tier? Let's just see what Donnie can do to finish off this Roster.

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12/31/2010  1:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/31/2010  6:06 AM
nixluva wrote:There's no issue with the Coach IMO. I think Stan has actually stolen many of his offensive concepts from Mike. He even said that he thought his Magic players had slowed down too much and he wanted them to run more. He's basically doing just about everything we do and his team shoots as many 3's as we do. I think the level of effectiveness is very similar between both coaches. Stan has a better roster. When we finally upgrade our roster then we'll see who you'd actually prefer as coach. Something tells me that if we added Melo and a started beating teams you wouldn't have a negative thing to say about Mike.

If we had enough good players, then no one would be talking about trying to get Melo. So who cares about the guys on the bench he doesn't play when it's likely those guys aren't the difference between us being Elite or 2nd Tier? Let's just see what Donnie can do to finish off this Roster.

melo is a star that mike will play. a lot of coaches like the up-tempo game. this is becoming an up-tempo league. can you imagine a shaq even in his prime trying to keep up with todays run and gun league. hell. even shaq's young twin bynum is breaking down, and yao is broken.

when you play such an exhaustive game utilizing the bench to rest your top guys makes a difference. i would like to see timo, ar, gallo, wilson, felton, on the floor together while amar'e is resting. ar the glass cleaner, timo the wall, felton the general, wilson and gallo the scoring machine.

defined roles. stan's team has defined roles. we didnt see dwight howard jacking up threes in the game tonite.

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12/31/2010  2:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/31/2010  2:17 AM
nixluva wrote:There's no issue with the Coach IMO. I think Stan has actually stolen many of his offensive concepts from Mike. He even said that he thought his Magic players had slowed down too much and he wanted them to run more. He's basically doing just about everything we do and his team shoots as many 3's as we do. I think the level of effectiveness is very similar between both coaches. Stan has a better roster. When we finally upgrade our roster then we'll see who you'd actually prefer as coach. Something tells me that if we added Melo and a started beating teams you wouldn't have a negative thing to say about Mike.

If we had enough good players, then no one would be talking about trying to get Melo. So who cares about the guys on the bench he doesn't play when it's likely those guys aren't the difference between us being Elite or 2nd Tier? Let's just see what Donnie can do to finish off this Roster.

I think most coaches with a dominant post player want shooters and D'Antoni isn't the first coach to run. Both coaches have won but Van Gundy trumps D'Antoni. Van Gundy has taken a team to the finals. Van Gundy has also overcome some adversity with the Heat situation and Riley. I don't think Van Gundy or D'Antoni are doing anything that hasn't been done before. I think one guy is more willing to work with his entire team and has a defensive focus and that is why he has been more successful achieving team goals.
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12/31/2010  2:36 AM
I just posted an article where Gortat talks about the total lack of defensive emphasis in Phoenix versus playing for SVG. I think that
article shows the dramatic difference between a coach that game plans for individual opponents and one that works on perfecting his teams offense, and having a short practice to rest his starters so that they have their legs for the next game.
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12/31/2010  3:04 AM
CrushAlot wrote:I just posted an article where Gortat talks about the total lack of defensive emphasis in Phoenix versus playing for SVG. I think that
article shows the dramatic difference between a coach that game plans for individual opponents and one that works on perfecting his teams offense, and having a short practice to rest his starters so that they have their legs for the next game.

it was a good read. i would email it to knicks care of mda. but mda says he doesnt read sports articles. lol. he should at least read that one. mda needs a wake up call. hell at this point he needs to eat humble pie and have a tms man-up moment with his bench. he needs to restore that relationship.

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12/31/2010  8:17 AM
Knicks MUST HAVE MELO. We need a guy who can guard the post players and clean the glass.

Also the Nuggets are demanding 5 first round picks. WE should up our offer to Chandler, Gallo, AR, Fields, Douglas, Mosgov, 2014,16,18 first rounders. Then sign Antoine Walker to fill out the roster.

Thats the ticket

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12/31/2010  10:15 AM
Denver will want Chandler to replace melo so we will have to give him up. Either gallo or fields will join him as well as curry and a pick from AR. We should get back harringon with melo because he is the perfect scorer off the bench and Denver will try to lose his contract in a melo trade. We can then fix the big man issue over the summer when we have our first round pick and mid level.
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12/31/2010  10:26 AM
Knixkik wrote:Denver will want Chandler to replace melo so we will have to give him up. Either gallo or fields will join him as well as curry and a pick from AR. We should get back harringon with melo because he is the perfect scorer off the bench and Denver will try to lose his contract in a melo trade. We can then fix the big man issue over the summer when we have our first round pick and mid level.

I'm sure they'd much rather have Fields. He's about 3/4 as effective as Chandler and he'll cost about one-tenth of what Chandler will next year. A rebuilding team needs to get as many good players on rookie contracts as possible. Then they can still have talent and have cap room to bring in a star.
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12/31/2010  12:13 PM
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Knixkik wrote:Denver will want Chandler to replace melo so we will have to give him up. Either gallo or fields will join him as well as curry and a pick from AR. We should get back harringon with melo because he is the perfect scorer off the bench and Denver will try to lose his contract in a melo trade. We can then fix the big man issue over the summer when we have our first round pick and mid level.

I'm sure they'd much rather have Fields. He's about 3/4 as effective as Chandler and he'll cost about one-tenth of what Chandler will next year. A rebuilding team needs to get as many good players on rookie contracts as possible. Then they can still have talent and have cap room to bring in a star.

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As I said before Chandler is on his way to being an allstar.

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12/31/2010  12:40 PM
Melo can get you the production of Gallo and Wilson combined. Therefore you can play a defensive center and not lose any scoring.
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12/31/2010  12:46 PM
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Bonn1997 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Denver will want Chandler to replace melo so we will have to give him up. Either gallo or fields will join him as well as curry and a pick from AR. We should get back harringon with melo because he is the perfect scorer off the bench and Denver will try to lose his contract in a melo trade. We can then fix the big man issue over the summer when we have our first round pick and mid level.

I'm sure they'd much rather have Fields. He's about 3/4 as effective as Chandler and he'll cost about one-tenth of what Chandler will next year. A rebuilding team needs to get as many good players on rookie contracts as possible. Then they can still have talent and have cap room to bring in a star.

Papabear Says

As I said before Chandler is on his way to being an allstar.


That's questionable but I don't see how it changes anything I said anyway.
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12/31/2010  12:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/31/2010  12:55 PM
Are we all in Melo mode now????


You can't complete with these teams unless you do something at a high high level.

With Melo and Amare at the 3 and 4, you know 95% percent of the time those two stars are going to be just plain out too big and too fast for the opposing 3/4.

You start their every night and fill in the blanks. I would keep fields and build a vet bench like the Heat. You telling me we can't find a Big Z or Daimpier???? Mike Miller is fighting for time with James Jones!!!!!!!!

Get the stars together then worried about the bench.

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12/31/2010  2:20 PM
Anji wrote:Are we all in Melo mode now????


You can't complete with these teams unless you do something at a high high level.

With Melo and Amare at the 3 and 4, you know 95% percent of the time those two stars are going to be just plain out too big and too fast for the opposing 3/4.

You start their every night and fill in the blanks. I would keep fields and build a vet bench like the Heat. You telling me we can't find a Big Z or Daimpier???? Mike Miller is fighting for time with James Jones!!!!!!!!

Get the stars together then worried about the bench.


We could find all of that but Amare and Carmelo still don't stack up favorably against Lebron and Wade.
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