VDesai wrote:He plays well in this offense because he passes and cuts well. His shotblocking and energy is always great. I think he's a 15 minute a night guy though and we still need a rebounder. I wouldn't isolate him as a problem though.

for me Turiaf is a good 15 minutes off the bench guy when you have Amare starting at the 4 and have a real C going. And I still probably would have another big to compliment the bench.

martin wrote:

VDesai wrote:He plays well in this offense because he passes and cuts well. His shotblocking and energy is always great. I think he's a 15 minute a night guy though and we still need a rebounder. I wouldn't isolate him as a problem though.

for me Turiaf is a good 15 minutes off the bench guy when you have Amare starting at the 4 and have a real C going. And I still probably would have another big to compliment the bench.

Martin--if we had a second scoring big--we could insert him into the SL--and put Gallo back as sixth man to provide that punch we need off the bench. I think Gallo might be very good in a 6th man role. If Houston lets Jefferies go--we could pick him up and see if we could trade for a 6-9++ guy to start with Amare.

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

VDesai wrote:He plays well in this offense because he passes and cuts well. His shotblocking and energy is always great. I think he's a 15 minute a night guy though and we still need a rebounder. I wouldn't isolate him as a problem though.

for me Turiaf is a good 15 minutes off the bench guy when you have Amare starting at the 4 and have a real C going. And I still probably would have another big to compliment the bench.

Martin--if we had a second scoring big--we could insert him into the SL--and put Gallo back as sixth man to provide that punch we need off the bench. I think Gallo might be very good in a 6th man role. If Houston lets Jefferies go--we could pick him up and see if we could trade for a 6-9++ guy to start with Amare.

Jefferies? Blah. I am not trying to build for this year at all, quite happy giving the young guys all the minutes they can grab. I want to see more of Moz and AR than I do anyone the Knicks could trade for on a 1 year deal.

The problem is those guys aren't getting minutes. I know we want to win but they also need to develop Moz and AR to see if they are long term solutions. It's pretty clear we can't hang with the elites yet so those guys need to play and sort out whether they can contribute or not.

I still think we need a couple more pieces but the problem the Knicks have is how to add them without losing some of what they have. I know we shouldn't be greedy but I feel like giving up and of our pieces could set the team back - maybe it's my paranoia from the Layden and Isiah years.

I wonder if Moz is anywhere close to making another attempt and if he can handle it. If he could execute he is the prototype: Midrange jumper, runs the floor, good outlet passer, quick feet. Missing: FUNDAMENTALS!!!!

Can't say I'd be ready to give him up. OR AR.

Don't know if trades can make us contenders this year. the reason I say that is talent infusion on many teams can work but this is a team still finding itself. Its easy for fans to say things but harder to execute.

I guess if Turiaf was more durable he would not have been the trade fodder he was.

I think we should get JJ fishlips.

ok so mda is gonna have players take a shot within 7 seconds. fine. coach spo is going to have his players take a shot within 6 seconds. are we really going to win going shot for shot with the superfriends? heat announcers mentioned how mda doesnt use his bench much? what did coach spo do? spo played his bench double the amount of minutes mda played his bench. result. a tired amar'e in the fourth, which the miami heat announcers pointed would be the result.

when your game plan is that predictable, that a first year head coach can counter it, its not turiaf's fault.

cheers wrote:i know for one thing the problem is not turiaf. the miami heat announcers were reciting mda game plan. the reason, he never adjusts it. but smart opposing teams adjust to frankly mda's stale game plan.

ok so mda is gonna have players take a shot within 7 seconds. fine. coach spo is going to have his players take a shot within 6 seconds. are we really going to win going shot for shot with the superfriends? heat announcers mentioned how mda doesnt use his bench much? what did coach spo do? spo played his bench double the amount of minutes mda played his bench. result. a tired amar'e in the fourth, which the miami heat announcers pointed would be the result.

when your game plan is that predictable, that a first year head coach can counter it, its not turiaf's fault.

The Heat have won 15 of 16 and have a much better team than us. There was nothing MDA could do.

Knixkik wrote:He offers a lot to this team, especially shot-blocking, and is valuable for 15 mins per night. One thing that i still don't understand tho is how he can't grab a rebound to save his life. It amazes me.

poor timing. Strange that he has such good instincts with blocking. Very deficient at blocking out and launching for rebounds.