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FistOfOakley
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12/29/2010  12:25 AM
FGA per 40 minutes
Douglas 14.4
Felton 14.5
Gallinari 10.5
Chandler 13.8


i don't even trust him shooting wide open 3's anymore though he's been better as of late. if it keeps him from shooting all the other dumb shots i can live with him not shooting the open ones also.

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12/29/2010  12:29 AM
TD needs to play more like Derek Fisher & take less shots... Wilson & Gallo should be getting more of those shot attempts in this offense.
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12/29/2010  12:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2010  12:33 AM
lol the funneh of it all, toney doesnt even play close to forty minutes, so how is his FGA so damn high?

this how, look at the miami game-- in 19 minutes td shot 9 times. contrast that with gallo who in 37 minutes shot 12 times.

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12/29/2010  12:34 AM
TMS wrote:TD needs to play more like Derek Fisher & take less shots... Wilson & Gallo should be getting more of those shot attempts in this offense.

well you know who is green lighting td.. i wont mention any names but he wears a mustache.

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12/29/2010  12:43 AM
The thing about Douglas was he was a no.1 scorer in college. He was a scoring guard, so for him to A) play PG and B) be focusing mostly on D and not O, are both new things for him,. Than when you're in a open offense like this its even easier to take shots. I like Douglas a lot, but I'm not really sure he's the right fit for this team. I'm willing to see it play out this year before I'd make that call, but I do wonder about that.
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12/29/2010  8:26 AM
Td needs Greg popovich to tell him to stop shooting every time he touches the ball. I don't think mda can preach "take the open shot" to the team and then single td out to shoot less. I think that's the right thing to do but mda doesn't have it in him
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12/29/2010  8:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2010  8:54 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Td needs Greg popovich to tell him to stop shooting every time he touches the ball. I don't think mda can preach "take the open shot" to the team and then single td out to shoot less. I think that's the right thing to do but mda doesn't have it in him

Livin' by the sword, dyin' by the sword. is the coach. He should be dictating what kind of shots he's looking for. Let's call it "The Preferred Shot". He doesn't really have or has not developed, the kind of weapons necessary to play his SSOL style. Now is the time for that development.

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12/29/2010  9:02 AM
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GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Td needs Greg popovich to tell him to stop shooting every time he touches the ball. I don't think mda can preach "take the open shot" to the team and then single td out to shoot less. I think that's the right thing to do but mda doesn't have it in him

Livin' by the sword, dyin' by the sword. is the coach. He should be dictating what kind of shots he's looking for. Let's call it "The Preferred Shot". He doesn't really have or has not developed, the kind of weapons necessary to play his SSOL style. Now is the time for that development.

heat countered mda's SSOL (seven seconds or less.) with their own SSOL (six seconds or less.) mda got beaten with his own acronym.

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12/29/2010  9:09 AM
TMS wrote:TD needs to play more like Derek Fisher & take less shots... Wilson & Gallo should be getting more of those shot attempts in this offense.

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I agree. That's up to the coach to tell TD that.

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12/29/2010  10:48 AM
FistOfOakley wrote:FGA per 40 minutes
Douglas 14.4
Felton 14.5
Gallinari 10.5
Chandler 13.8


i don't even trust him shooting wide open 3's anymore though he's been better as of late. if it keeps him from shooting all the other dumb shots i can live with him not shooting the open ones also.

I fail to see any difference in his shot selection and Felton's. Felton jacks them up same way. Just as big a problem is Stat's TO's if not worse. Triple teamed at times and still won't kick it out. Doubled he can sometimes still penetrate and shoot. But I don't think I've seen him score against a triple team yet.

Gallo really needs to take more shots he disappears too much.

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12/29/2010  11:00 AM
felton i can deal with, though it does leave a bit to be desired. he makes enough where you can tolerate it.

douglas is not shooting well, and has not been shooting well. someone needs to tell him that the shot should be going somewhere else.

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12/29/2010  11:42 AM
Olbrannon wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:FGA per 40 minutes
Douglas 14.4
Felton 14.5
Gallinari 10.5
Chandler 13.8


i don't even trust him shooting wide open 3's anymore though he's been better as of late. if it keeps him from shooting all the other dumb shots i can live with him not shooting the open ones also.

I fail to see any difference in his shot selection and Felton's. Felton jacks them up same way. Just as big a problem is Stat's TO's if not worse. Triple teamed at times and still won't kick it out. Doubled he can sometimes still penetrate and shoot. But I don't think I've seen him score against a triple team yet.

Gallo really needs to take more shots he disappears too much.

i know you like TD and all and have followed him through college, etc. But I think you may have some blinders on with regards to TD. His shot selection is not the same as Felton's.

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12/29/2010  11:57 AM
martin wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:FGA per 40 minutes
Douglas 14.4
Felton 14.5
Gallinari 10.5
Chandler 13.8


i don't even trust him shooting wide open 3's anymore though he's been better as of late. if it keeps him from shooting all the other dumb shots i can live with him not shooting the open ones also.

I fail to see any difference in his shot selection and Felton's. Felton jacks them up same way. Just as big a problem is Stat's TO's if not worse. Triple teamed at times and still won't kick it out. Doubled he can sometimes still penetrate and shoot. But I don't think I've seen him score against a triple team yet.

Gallo really needs to take more shots he disappears too much.

i know you like TD and all and have followed him through college, etc. But I think you may have some blinders on with regards to TD. His shot selection is not the same as Felton's.

Not only that, he plays SG for majority of his minutes, you guys look at him like a pg, but he's not, he's a combo guard, and combo gurds takes a lot of shots, most of them are bad. You guy's talk about chandler and gallo needing to take it to the rack. TD is the fastest guy on the floor who pulls up for more jumpers then anybody on the floor.

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12/29/2010  11:59 AM
Numerous times you'll see TD dribbling up the court,
with people wide open to this left & right....only to
chuck it up for no rhyme or reason.
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12/29/2010  12:07 PM
Big Difference between TD and Felton..Felton drives for layups for a good portion of his shot attempts..he deserves a chuck or two. TD drives for his ugly floater..pull up missed 8 foot jumpers..30 foot chucks..Never takes it to the Rim Hard..Misses wide open players...He doesn't even deserve one chuck. I'm sorry but even his defense to me is overrated. He does a good job of pressure up the court but does a terrible job of staying in front of his man in the half court.
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12/29/2010  12:22 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:Big Difference between TD and Felton..Felton drives for layups for a good portion of his shot attempts..he deserves a chuck or two. TD drives for his ugly floater..pull up missed 8 foot jumpers..30 foot chucks..Never takes it to the Rim Hard..Misses wide open players...He doesn't even deserve one chuck. I'm sorry but even his defense to me is overrated. He does a good job of pressure up the court but does a terrible job of staying in front of his man in the half court.

Bcause he plays them to agressive, get a step on him and bye bye, but then thats why you have shot blockers, and thats why amares Block shots have taking a spike

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12/29/2010  12:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Big Difference between TD and Felton..Felton drives for layups for a good portion of his shot attempts..he deserves a chuck or two. TD drives for his ugly floater..pull up missed 8 foot jumpers..30 foot chucks..Never takes it to the Rim Hard..Misses wide open players...He doesn't even deserve one chuck. I'm sorry but even his defense to me is overrated. He does a good job of pressure up the court but does a terrible job of staying in front of his man in the half court.

Bcause he plays them to agressive, get a step on him and bye bye, but then thats why you have shot blockers, and thats why amares Block shots have taking a spike

Blocking shots should be last resort not every possession solution. He even plays guys who obviously are quicker than him and have a weaker jumpshot close. It's a flawed tactic..not smart basketball. Every player on team has a flaw but his just seem to stick out so much. Team just looks lost when Felton is on the bench and TD is running offense.

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12/29/2010  12:53 PM
nyshakespeare wrote:Numerous times you'll see TD dribbling up the court,
with people wide open to this left & right....only to
chuck it up for no rhyme or reason.

It's that SSOL philosophy with no refinement. Somebody () has to give direction as to the types of shots we're looking for. Fields is starting to subcumb to the same thought process. A little fine tuning is necessary. BTW, that same direction will improve AR's shot selection and understanding of the game.

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12/29/2010  2:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2010  2:24 PM
martin wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:FGA per 40 minutes
Douglas 14.4
Felton 14.5
Gallinari 10.5
Chandler 13.8


i don't even trust him shooting wide open 3's anymore though he's been better as of late. if it keeps him from shooting all the other dumb shots i can live with him not shooting the open ones also.

I fail to see any difference in his shot selection and Felton's. Felton jacks them up same way. Just as big a problem is Stat's TO's if not worse. Triple teamed at times and still won't kick it out. Doubled he can sometimes still penetrate and shoot. But I don't think I've seen him score against a triple team yet.

Gallo really needs to take more shots he disappears too much.

i know you like TD and all and have followed him through college, etc. But I think you may have some blinders on with regards to TD. His shot selection is not the same as Felton's.

Plausible answer and may have a bit of merit. OTOH I have seen him make those shots on a regular basis. If you don't shoot and are no threat to shoot then you don't maintain spacing either. I don't think he has been a hundred per cent but you have to play thru pain Still back and shoulder probs do affect your form

Gallo and Chandler have a nice compact shot from 3... but they just don't get all that many passes at chest level where they don't need to bend over or move thier feet. And that is not on any one player. There shots would go up if they did.

I've seen Stat back to the basket with three guys on him freeze TD and Gallo out and just try to take it to the rim anayway. Also seen once or twice some nice passes out to open players ...just not as often as the TO's

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
someone give TD the red light please

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