I think it's interesting to examine the 3 teams in the East that are clearly better than us. I think on any given night or in a playoff series each can eliminate the other. Orlando is now the deepest. Boston is the hardest working and has he most experience. Best leadership as well. Miami has the most talent. If Miami played as hard as Boston start to finish I don't think anyone can beat them. But as we saw tonight they don't play that way. And they still beat a good team that played hard.

Boston needs Rondo out there to remain top dog in the east. They can still count on their hustle and stars carrying them past the East for another year or two.

Orlando in my opinion has the talent and depth to be better than any team in the league. If they gel right and work hard I think the East is theirs.

What separates the Knicks from these teams is that they have excellent 2nd and 3rd options and great depth. Until we solve these problems we'll be a second round exit team.

FistOfOakley wrote:i'd like to see AR in these games before making drastic changes. if he fails, then go get what you think what you need to get but it would make sense to give the prospects on your roster an opportunity to help you in areas where they actually excel and where you actually need help.

If they were goin to get any playin time it wouldve happened by now. Mike doesn't want them
on the court. I'm sure he has his reasons.

martin wrote:

MSG3 wrote:The Knicks cannot compete with these teams yet. They might win a game during the season or steal one in the playoffs, but we will never beat them in a series. We've beat to death our options. My opinion is plan A: get Melo and be willing to give up one of gallo and Chandler and include fields, curry and picks. Plan B is go after guys like Iggy and PG and C help.

I think it's interesting to examine the 3 teams in the East that are clearly better than us. I think on any given night or in a playoff series each can eliminate the other. Orlando is now the deepest. Boston is the hardest working and has he most experience. Best leadership as well. Miami has the most talent. If Miami played as hard as Boston start to finish I don't think anyone can beat them. But as we saw tonight they don't play that way. And they still beat a good team that played hard.

Boston needs Rondo out there to remain top dog in the east. They can still count on their hustle and stars carrying them past the East for another year or two.

Orlando in my opinion has the talent and depth to be better than any team in the league. If they gel right and work hard I think the East is theirs.

What separates the Knicks from these teams is that they have excellent 2nd and 3rd options and great depth. Until we solve these problems we'll be a second round exit team.

first round exit perhaps?

If we won this game the thread would have never been created..

MSG3 wrote:

martin wrote:

MSG3 wrote:The Knicks cannot compete with these teams yet. They might win a game during the season or steal one in the playoffs, but we will never beat them in a series. We've beat to death our options. My opinion is plan A: get Melo and be willing to give up one of gallo and Chandler and include fields, curry and picks. Plan B is go after guys like Iggy and PG and C help.

I think it's interesting to examine the 3 teams in the East that are clearly better than us. I think on any given night or in a playoff series each can eliminate the other. Orlando is now the deepest. Boston is the hardest working and has he most experience. Best leadership as well. Miami has the most talent. If Miami played as hard as Boston start to finish I don't think anyone can beat them. But as we saw tonight they don't play that way. And they still beat a good team that played hard.

Boston needs Rondo out there to remain top dog in the east. They can still count on their hustle and stars carrying them past the East for another year or two.

Orlando in my opinion has the talent and depth to be better than any team in the league. If they gel right and work hard I think the East is theirs.

What separates the Knicks from these teams is that they have excellent 2nd and 3rd options and great depth. Until we solve these problems we'll be a second round exit team.

first round exit perhaps?

Perhaps. I think we have a shot against a team like Chicago in the first round.

Not me, not with Noah in tow. They would be Knicks like 4-2 or something like that. Or 3-2 if it were a 5 game series.

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

MSG3 wrote:The Knicks cannot compete with these teams yet. They might win a game during the season or steal one in the playoffs, but we will never beat them in a series. We've beat to death our options. My opinion is plan A: get Melo and be willing to give up one of gallo and Chandler and include fields, curry and picks. Plan B is go after guys like Iggy and PG and C help.

I think it's interesting to examine the 3 teams in the East that are clearly better than us. I think on any given night or in a playoff series each can eliminate the other. Orlando is now the deepest. Boston is the hardest working and has he most experience. Best leadership as well. Miami has the most talent. If Miami played as hard as Boston start to finish I don't think anyone can beat them. But as we saw tonight they don't play that way. And they still beat a good team that played hard.

Boston needs Rondo out there to remain top dog in the east. They can still count on their hustle and stars carrying them past the East for another year or two.

Orlando in my opinion has the talent and depth to be better than any team in the league. If they gel right and work hard I think the East is theirs.

What separates the Knicks from these teams is that they have excellent 2nd and 3rd options and great depth. Until we solve these problems we'll be a second round exit team.

first round exit perhaps?

If we won this game the thread would have never been created..

I would've created this thread but wouldve prefaced it by saying "I'm happy with the team thus far, am proud of their performance and don't want to be a downer BUT…"

I'm actually still happy and proud of them. But even if we won it's so clear how far apart we are from them.