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FrenchKnicks
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12/28/2010  9:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2010  9:03 AM
Guys,

Who are you favourite / least favourite Knicks writers ? Could you add the paper/website name for those who might not know where to find the guy's articles ?

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12/28/2010  9:13 AM
I thing nixlova is our best homer and popabear and isles can compete for the worth...
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12/28/2010  9:16 AM
Howard Beck of the NY Times and Alan Hahn are my favorite.

My List favorite in no particular order: Mitch Lawrence(Daily News), Frank Isola (Daily News) Mark Berman (NY Post. I don't really have anything personal against Berman and Isola, I just get irritated by the overall tone of the papers they work for. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Lawrence really bothers me when he writes about the Knicks because he rarely writes anything positive or informative. Don't get me wrong, a lot of the criticism was well-deserved. But itt almost seems that he has a vendetta against the organization at times.

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12/28/2010  9:42 AM
Marc Berman is clearly the best Knicks writer, Alan Hahn a distant second. Beck is weak.
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12/28/2010  10:08 AM
orangeblobman wrote:Marc Berman is clearly the best Knicks writer, Alan Hahn a distant second. Beck is weak.

I hope you're kidding. Marc Berman wrote a somewhat decent article on Stoudemire and his mom maybe a week ago. It was just decent and that was his BEST work. It was hardly impressive. The misleading headlines the post editors write make it worse. Everything about that newspaper is bad, so I guess it's fitting that Berman works for them.

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12/28/2010  10:16 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Marc Berman is clearly the best Knicks writer, Alan Hahn a distant second. Beck is weak.

I hope you're kidding. Marc Berman wrote a somewhat decent article on Stoudemire and his mom maybe a week ago. It was just decent and that was his BEST work. It was hardly impressive. The misleading headlines the post editors write make it worse. Everything about that newspaper is bad, so I guess it's fitting that Berman works for them.

Yea but who stirs things up the way Marc Berman does? He cuts through the mamby pamby stuff and spears you straight through your heart. You bleed, from your heart, and it feels so good to be alive, you're dying but you're alive when you read his writing, it's such an awesome feeling to read his articles.

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12/28/2010  10:32 AM
Howard Beck provides some unique angles and does not appear to write simply to make deadline. He is not flashy, but consistent. Kinda like Wilson Chandler.

Alan Hahn wished he could make a 22 foot jump shot. His resentment of the athletes who have worked to reach a goal he can only dream about, is apparent. He is Andy Rautins.

Marc Berman is a gossip columnist. Period. The endless Marbury stories and sideline banter this summer only evaded any attempt on his part at authentic journalism, such as following the progress of an unheralded rookie named Landry Fields in Las Vegas Summer League. The repetitive Carmelo Anthoy trade references, along with his "un-named sources" on who the Knicks who are subject to be traded, are stale.

Besides, he is employed by The New York Post. Berman is Eddy Curry.

Tommy Dee at Postin and Toasting is funny and creative. He writes with he soul of a Knicks fan on his sleeve and manages to catch the nuance of details that many people miss. He is relentless all year long. A hard worker who is a glue player. He is Landry Fields.

Seth at Posting and Toasting is Raymond Felton. Scrappy and tough. He taks chances and brings the double digit assists for Tommy Dee.

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12/28/2010  10:32 AM
Mike Lupica=worst

Many years ago he was pretty good. When you become a part-time observer--you may not even know it yourself--you become out of the loop so to speak and while the casual fan may not notice--a hardcore fan can. The guys who follow the team--they all try but some of them sck namely the guy from the Daily news who obviously BS more than he tells the truth.

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12/28/2010  10:41 AM
misterearl wrote:Howard Beck provides some unique angles and does not appear to write simply to make deadline. He is not flashy, but consistent. Kinda like Wilson Chandler.

Alan Hahn wished he could make a 22 foot jump shot. His resentment of the athletes who have worked to reach a goal he can only dream about, is apparent. He is Andy Rautins.

Marc Berman is a gossip columnist. Period. The endless Marbury stories and sideline banter this summer only evaded any attempt on his part at authentic journalism, such as following the progress of an unheralded rookie named Landry Fields in Las Vegas Summer League. The repetitive Carmelo Anthoy trade references, along with his "un-named sources" on who the Knicks who are subject to be traded, are stale.

Besides, he is employed by The New York Post. Berman is Eddy Curry.

Tommy Dee at Postin and Toasting is funny and creative. He writes with he soul of a Knicks fan on his sleeve and manages to catch the nuance of details that many people miss. He is relentless all year long. A hard worker who is a glue player. He is Landry Fields.

Seth at Posting and Toasting is Raymond Felton. Scrappy and tough. He taks chances and brings the double digit assists for Tommy Dee.

It's obvious misterearl is the best Knicks writer.

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12/28/2010  10:51 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:Marc Berman is clearly the best Knicks writer, Alan Hahn a distant second. Beck is weak.

I hope you're kidding. Marc Berman wrote a somewhat decent article on Stoudemire and his mom maybe a week ago. It was just decent and that was his BEST work. It was hardly impressive. The misleading headlines the post editors write make it worse. Everything about that newspaper is bad, so I guess it's fitting that Berman works for them.

Yea but who stirs things up the way Marc Berman does? He cuts through the mamby pamby stuff and spears you straight through your heart. You bleed, from your heart, and it feels so good to be alive, you're dying but you're alive when you read his writing, it's such an awesome feeling to read his articles.


I always though that feeling in my chest was agita. But now I realize the truth. That feeling was caused of Berman's rapier wit cutting through my heart and soul.
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12/28/2010  11:07 AM
uk mafia posters with 20,000+ posts are the best knicks writers.
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12/28/2010  11:14 AM
Alan Hahn, I think I like more as a person than a writer- his main articles are a bit bland, but his blogs and chats are much better, and he has a genuine enthusiasm for the team. Howard Beck is pretty good too. Mike Lupica seems irrelevant these days- I'm sure I used to read more of his stuff years ago- I think Briggs is probably right about him.

Isola isn't even worth talking about- he hates the team and thinks the fans are idiots for following them. He clearly hates his job and his readers, so I don't know why anyone would bother reading his cr*p these days. I don't like Mitch Lawrence's writings either

Marc Berman killed any credibility he may have had with his inexplicable love affair with Marbury, that went on for years and crossed continents. I don't really value his opinion- I remember over summer he criticised the Mosgov signing before seeing him play (fair enough- a fair few of us did that too), but then when Mosgov played well in preseason (so long ago!), he wrote an article saying what a good signing it was despite "some people" questioning the move initially- man, at least stand by your opinions, instead of pretending you never had them. Also he wrote that ridiculous piece after one or two pre-season games this year, that basically said we were screwed and that we would never improve or get better after the 2nd game of pre-season (most of us waited until at least the 6 game losing street before plunging into dispair!) and that anyone explaining the poor play on the fact it was essentially a new team and players had to get comfortable, were just making excuses.

Still, now we're doing well, Berman isn't as bad a read as he was during the hopeless years

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12/28/2010  11:30 AM
smackeddog wrote:Isola isn't even worth talking about- he hates the team and thinks the fans are idiots for following them. He clearly hates his job and his readers, so I don't know why anyone would bother reading his cr*p these days.

that is the one thing I will never understand about Isola. There was some obvious tension between him and the NYK organization, but Isola feels the need to vent his frustration to his readers. Why? As a fan, I don't care if MSG brass makes his life hell or if something got FUBAR'ed during his tenure watching and writing about the Knicks, I just care about what he can report about and what information and insight he can provide about the team and the players.

It's like he forgot he was supposed to be a professional and do his job, rather, he now feels like it is important for him to complain about his job everyone once in a while to a public audience that really shouldn't care and probably doesn't care. It's a weird gray area to cross over into as a journalist. When I read the newspaper and read sports articles online, I am not sure I have ever come across that type of scenario.

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12/28/2010  11:33 AM
martin wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Isola isn't even worth talking about- he hates the team and thinks the fans are idiots for following them. He clearly hates his job and his readers, so I don't know why anyone would bother reading his cr*p these days.

that is the one thing I will never understand about Isola. There was some obvious tension between him and the NYK organization, but Isola feels the need to vent his frustration to his readers. Why? As a fan, I don't care if MSG brass makes his life hell or if something got FUBAR'ed during his tenure watching and writing about the Knicks, I just care about what he can report about and what information and insight he can provide about the team and the players.

It's like he forgot he was supposed to be a professional and do his job, rather, he now feels like it is important for him to complain about his job everyone once in a while to a public audience that really shouldn't care and probably doesn't care. It's a weird gray area to cross over into as a journalist. When I read the newspaper and read sports articles online, I am not sure I have ever come across that type of scenario.

i dont consider new york sports writers journalists. we dont really have good ones allan hahn is ok, but for a city like new york that has a lot of basketball going on from highschool to nba. you would think we would have something better than ok. im hoping a new nba ball club in brooklyn brings new blood to local basketball coverage.

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12/28/2010  11:36 AM
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Isola isn't even worth talking about- he hates the team and thinks the fans are idiots for following them. He clearly hates his job and his readers, so I don't know why anyone would bother reading his cr*p these days.

that is the one thing I will never understand about Isola. There was some obvious tension between him and the NYK organization, but Isola feels the need to vent his frustration to his readers. Why? As a fan, I don't care if MSG brass makes his life hell or if something got FUBAR'ed during his tenure watching and writing about the Knicks, I just care about what he can report about and what information and insight he can provide about the team and the players.

It's like he forgot he was supposed to be a professional and do his job, rather, he now feels like it is important for him to complain about his job everyone once in a while to a public audience that really shouldn't care and probably doesn't care. It's a weird gray area to cross over into as a journalist. When I read the newspaper and read sports articles online, I am not sure I have ever come across that type of scenario.

i dont consider new york sports writers journalists. we dont really have good ones allan hahn is ok, but for a city like new york that has a lot of basketball going on from highschool to nba. you would think we would have something better than ok. im hoping a new nba ball club in brooklyn brings new blood to local basketball coverage.

Who is Seth Rosenthal? I read a good little piece by him on nymag.com

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12/28/2010  11:39 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Isola isn't even worth talking about- he hates the team and thinks the fans are idiots for following them. He clearly hates his job and his readers, so I don't know why anyone would bother reading his cr*p these days.

that is the one thing I will never understand about Isola. There was some obvious tension between him and the NYK organization, but Isola feels the need to vent his frustration to his readers. Why? As a fan, I don't care if MSG brass makes his life hell or if something got FUBAR'ed during his tenure watching and writing about the Knicks, I just care about what he can report about and what information and insight he can provide about the team and the players.

It's like he forgot he was supposed to be a professional and do his job, rather, he now feels like it is important for him to complain about his job everyone once in a while to a public audience that really shouldn't care and probably doesn't care. It's a weird gray area to cross over into as a journalist. When I read the newspaper and read sports articles online, I am not sure I have ever come across that type of scenario.

i dont consider new york sports writers journalists. we dont really have good ones allan hahn is ok, but for a city like new york that has a lot of basketball going on from highschool to nba. you would think we would have something better than ok. im hoping a new nba ball club in brooklyn brings new blood to local basketball coverage.

Who is Seth Rosenthal? I read a good little piece by him on nymag.com

isnt that the dude that does posting and toasting?

http://www.postingandtoasting.com

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12/28/2010  11:49 AM
Berman updates you too much about marbury and IT..Isola has some sort of grudge against knicks brass for sure, he was treated like a high school writer in the isiah (national security) era.

I think none of the knicks writers are consistant, most are lazy and seem like they watch there game from the living rooms and send in a story anyone of us could right.

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12/28/2010  11:49 AM
Berman updates you too much about marbury and IT..Isola has some sort of grudge against knicks brass for sure, he was treated like a high school writer in the isiah (national security) era.

I think none of the knicks writers are consistant, most are lazy and seem like they watch there game from the living rooms and send in a story anyone of us could right.

ES
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12/28/2010  11:56 AM
Beck and Steve Adamek (The Bergen Record??) are decent reads for me. I also like reading some of the bloogs posted on the UK Home page. Hahn is fine, too, but I don't subscribe to Newsday, so I have not read much from him.

The writers who try to manufacture and manipulate the stories to attract readers or spark controversies are the ones I cannot take.


Does Berman even write all of his own stuff...or does he have a group of sub-writers who do a lot of the gopher work and write articles under his name? Just wondering.

Isola is another guy I can do without, although there have been times when I've liked an article or two of his.

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12/28/2010  11:57 AM
i think the best knicks writers are the guys on this forum that do it for free. i think the worst knicks writers are the ones that get paid for it (by the papers).
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