TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Ask yourself this..If Felton becomes an all star, does that not qualify as two lagit stars on the knicks..And if you trade chandler, are you saying he's at his ceiling.

there's a difference between an allstar & a superstar calibre talent... guys like Amare & Melo can carry a team to the playoffs as the focal point in an offense... those are the types of players that are worth the max contracts they command... Felton has been great this year but he's not what you'd call superstar calibre talent... he's more suitable to playing that 3rd allstar role in MDA's offense IMO.

as for Wilson, in order for him to take the next step to becoming a consistent 20+ ppg scorer, he's gonna have to be able to either get to the FT line a lot more than just 2.7 times a game, or get some more shot attempts per game & become a more featured player in the offense... with guys like Amare, Gallo, TD, Fields & Felton all competing for shot attempts also, it's gonna be tough for him to do that unless MDA switches from seven seconds or less to 4 seconds or less.

So for the shot attemps that chandler doesn't get, you think melo will all of sudden get if he comes here..He needs 20 to 25 shots by himself. your right, the only way him or gallo can get better is with more attemps, which aint happing with amare and felton. That doesn't take away from being the perfect complimentry player, which can go a long way.

Everybody runs the pick and roll in some fashion, the scouts know this..No way on earth would a coach publicly give up your defensive schemes..what can be more helping to a team if you knew how the opposing team was going to defend your plays...

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Ask yourself this..If Felton becomes an all star, does that not qualify as two lagit stars on the knicks..And if you trade chandler, are you saying he's at his ceiling.

there's a difference between an allstar & a superstar calibre talent... guys like Amare & Melo can carry a team to the playoffs as the focal point in an offense... those are the types of players that are worth the max contracts they command... Felton has been great this year but he's not what you'd call superstar calibre talent... he's more suitable to playing that 3rd allstar role in MDA's offense IMO.

as for Wilson, in order for him to take the next step to becoming a consistent 20+ ppg scorer, he's gonna have to be able to either get to the FT line a lot more than just 2.7 times a game, or get some more shot attempts per game & become a more featured player in the offense... with guys like Amare, Gallo, TD, Fields & Felton all competing for shot attempts also, it's gonna be tough for him to do that unless MDA switches from seven seconds or less to 4 seconds or less.

So for the shot attemps that chandler doesn't get, you think melo will all of sudden get if he comes here..He needs 20 to 25 shots by himself. your right, the only way him or gallo can get better is with more attemps, which aint happing with amare and felton. That doesn't take away from being the perfect complimentry player, which can go a long way.

Everybody runs the pick and roll in some fashion, the scouts know this..No way on earth would a coach publicly give up your defensive schemes..what can be more helping to a team if you knew how the opposing team was going to defend your plays...

Wilson & Gallo are taking 25 shot attempts per game between them... i think if u make a trade for Melo he would still easily get enough of his share of shot attempts w/o negatively effecting anyone else's touches on offense... but if we were to say wait til free agency to sign him & have to figure out an equitable share of touches for everyone else, then u are bound to run into some issues where someone's offense will have to suffer.

Yeah..suffer dramatically..the only consilation, Is knowing you have a PG who makes the right decisions...Obviously melo coming in as a FA means 1 2 players will be departing.

I won't turn this into another melo thread, but i will say, I think this roster has to stay together for a year to get the true value of everyone

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Ask yourself this..If Felton becomes an all star, does that not qualify as two lagit stars on the knicks..And if you trade chandler, are you saying he's at his ceiling.

there's a difference between an allstar & a superstar calibre talent... guys like Amare & Melo can carry a team to the playoffs as the focal point in an offense... those are the types of players that are worth the max contracts they command... Felton has been great this year but he's not what you'd call superstar calibre talent... he's more suitable to playing that 3rd allstar role in MDA's offense IMO.

as for Wilson, in order for him to take the next step to becoming a consistent 20+ ppg scorer, he's gonna have to be able to either get to the FT line a lot more than just 2.7 times a game, or get some more shot attempts per game & become a more featured player in the offense... with guys like Amare, Gallo, TD, Fields & Felton all competing for shot attempts also, it's gonna be tough for him to do that unless MDA switches from seven seconds or less to 4 seconds or less.

So for the shot attemps that chandler doesn't get, you think melo will all of sudden get if he comes here..He needs 20 to 25 shots by himself. your right, the only way him or gallo can get better is with more attemps, which aint happing with amare and felton. That doesn't take away from being the perfect complimentry player, which can go a long way.

Everybody runs the pick and roll in some fashion, the scouts know this..No way on earth would a coach publicly give up your defensive schemes..what can be more helping to a team if you knew how the opposing team was going to defend your plays...

Wilson & Gallo are taking 25 shot attempts per game between them... i think if u make a trade for Melo he would still easily get enough of his share of shot attempts w/o negatively effecting anyone else's touches on offense... but if we were to say wait til free agency to sign him & have to figure out an equitable share of touches for everyone else, then u are bound to run into some issues where someone's offense will have to suffer.

IMO, If we get Melo, Amare's shot attempts would take the biggest hit. Melo would assume the possessions that either Gallo or Chandler had (whichever one he replaces), and then shave off a few more from Amare/Felton.

One of the big reasons I want Melo is because I don't think running our offense through Amare and his 4 TO's/game is a recipe for success in the long-term. But unless we get a clear-cut second alpha dog, who is on the same tier as Amare, Amare will be the de facto #1 option on this team, and will be reluctant to pass the ball in crunch time, believing he has the burden of scoring for his team. A lot of times, the best way to get a superstar player (yes, I called Amare that) to share the ball...is to simply get another superstar player for him to play with.