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Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
1/26/2004  5:23 PM
We should trade for Jamison instead of Weed. He can play both the PF and SF and give 20 points and 7 boards a night. Dallas will trade him becuase he is only a role player and they have Josh Howard playing over him anyway. We can probably get him with a trade of K. Thomas,Deke, and F. Williams. Our lineup would be:
pg-Marbury
sg-Houston
sf-Van Horn
pf-Jamison
c-Doleac (he plays very well with marbury)
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Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
1/26/2004  5:25 PM
It works on real gm:

New York trades: C Kurt Thomas (11.5 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.2 minutes)
C Dikembe Mutombo (6.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 24.6 minutes)
PG Frank Williams (4.6 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.3 apg in 13.1 minutes)
New York receives: SF Antawn Jamison (15.7 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -6.6 ppg, -10.5 rpg, and -3.7 apg.

Dallas trades: SF Antawn Jamison (15.7 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.1 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Kurt Thomas (11.5 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 45 games)
C Dikembe Mutombo (6.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 46 games)
PG Frank Williams (4.6 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.3 apg in 40 games)
Change in team outlook: +6.6 ppg, +10.5 rpg, and +3.7 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to New York and Dallas being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New York and Dallas had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


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1/26/2004  5:27 PM
Posted by 1:

We should trade for Jamison instead of Weed. He can play both the PF and SF and give 20 points and 7 boards a night. Dallas will trade him becuase he is only a role player and they have Josh Howard playing over him anyway. We can probably get him with a trade of K. Thomas,Deke, and F. Williams. Our lineup would be:
pg-Marbury
sg-Houston
sf-Van Horn
pf-Jamison
c-Doleac (he plays very well with marbury)
bring on jami. he got game. he's a role player(as you put it) making a lot of doe. lol

[Edited by - knixnprix on 01/26/2004 17:32:55]
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1/26/2004  5:27 PM
Cuban has said repeatedly
a) he's not trading Jamison
b) he doesnt want Kurt Thomas

Whats the deal? Kurt and Deke? What group of players do we have that make Dallas want to trade Twan for us?
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1/26/2004  5:30 PM
May not be a good idea to trade our best rebounder, our best blocker(s) for another SF who can't rebound or play D. Two starters for a back-up, Isiah should slap you.
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1/26/2004  5:31 PM
I wouldn't give up both Deke and KT. Doleac does play good w/ marbury, but so does thomas. Besides, alot of centers would plain out overpower Doleac.
I don't see Isaiah trading Kurt anyway. He's already commented on how he wants to keep kurt and refuses to talk about any trade rumors involving him. He would most likely try to trade KVH first.
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1/26/2004  5:31 PM
he's not a role player. He was traded on draft day for Wince Carter and GS thought of him as their franchise player. Then he got traded to Dal who already had Dirk and Walker at the forwards, so where was he going to play? He has started some when Dirk plays C but he still gets his minutes off the bench.

He's actually a perfect fit for a Marbury run team, I just dont see what we possibly have to offer to Dal who doesnt care about money, only having the best players.
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1/26/2004  5:34 PM
I would not want to trade KT & Deke in a 2-for-1 deal. I'd want KVH in a deal like that if at all possible.
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1/26/2004  5:34 PM
guys... if its Deke and Kurt thats a no-brainer. Trust me... Twan does things neither of those guys can.

The Knicks are MUCH better with a front court of Jamison and Doleac over Thomas and Deke ANYDAY. Jamison is the athletic frontcourt player Isiah (and Stephon) covets but dont have the chips to trade for.

Ask Kidd if he like having KMart. JAmison isnt a good defender but he's a GREAT offensive talent and JUST as good as KMart, Jermain or anyone else in the East (on offense)
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1/26/2004  5:35 PM
Posted by Mac:

May not be a good idea to trade our best rebounder, our best blocker(s) for another SF who can't rebound or play D. Two starters for a back-up, Isiah should slap you.


i dont think its a good trade, OBVIOUSLY we dont need another SF. however, i woulndt say 2 starters for a back up. jamison is a starter on a lot of teams and mutumbo is a back up on most teams , and thomas is a back up on teams with a good PF lol
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Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
1/26/2004  5:37 PM
They must not think too highly of Jamison in Dallas becuase they play rookie Josh Howard over him. Dallas wants big guys that are good defenders that aren't starters, they want thier scorers on the floor. Deke and Thomas are perfect for them. Jamison is perfect for us he is a 6'9 PF that can be one of our main scoring options. He will dominate in the east and is a better fir than weed.
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1/26/2004  5:38 PM
ah yes; Hi number 1.

I think this trade has been hashed out in the thread "Sheed and Jamison". Knicks give up waaay too much.

There should be some kind of sanity clause with RealGM trades. Something like:

"TRADE ACCEPTED. But lay off the bong cause no one in their right mind would do this reverse-Laydon trade."
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Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
1/26/2004  5:39 PM
Why isn't it a good trade? It makes sense for both teams.
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1/26/2004  5:40 PM
"They must not think too highly of Jamison in Dallas becuase they play rookie Josh Howard over him."

Your not watching Dallas games. Howard was playing when Finely was out. Now he doesnt get much burn at all. Those guys mostly play at the 2. Jamison is a 4 that can play the 3
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1/26/2004  5:41 PM
I would definately rather have jameson over rasheed. But in ur original trade, substitute Kurt wit Keith, and if dallas would go for it, id be all for that trade.

Kurt/Doleac/Bruno
Jameson/Kurt/Othella
Penny/shandon/Jameson
Houston/Anderson/Penny
Marbury/Norris

Id want to keep frank, but i doubt theyd go for just kvh and deke
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1/26/2004  5:41 PM
Posted by fishmike:

guys... if its Deke and Kurt thats a no-brainer. Trust me... Twan does things neither of those guys can.

The Knicks are MUCH better with a front court of Jamison and Doleac over Thomas and Deke ANYDAY. Jamison is the athletic frontcourt player Isiah (and Stephon) covets but dont have the chips to trade for.

WHAT?!? are you kidding? Knicks would become the Dallas of the East, only much worse. They become a better offensive team but not more of an increase as much as the defensive decrease. wow.
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1/26/2004  5:42 PM
He is a natural PF not an SF. He will be amazing with marbury
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1/26/2004  5:42 PM
I would trade Thomas and Mutombo for Jamison in a heartbeat. As fishmike said, Doleac and Jamison would make the Knicks a better frontcourt. Mutombo is not going to give us much other than his defensive presence, so from him to Doleac really wouldn't be that much of a downgrade at all. As for Kurt, Jamison would definitely be an upgrade over him, he would fit very nicely with Marbury since he is an athletic froncourt player. As fishmike said though, we don't have the chips to land Jamison.
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1/26/2004  5:44 PM
Let's see how bruno does as a back up b4 we go trading away our starting center.
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1/26/2004  5:44 PM
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Why isn't it a good trade? It makes sense for both teams.
why why why if your Dallas and have a PG that races up the floor and a group of frontcourt players in Walker, Jamison and Dirk that are all GREAT rebounders and run well, do you want to add two of the slowest footed forwards in the NBA??

Deke and Kurt arent helping the Mavs... If I am Cuban or Nelson I say no thanks.

I *might* take Kurt Thomas but JAmison sure as hell isnt going to be in the deal.

*IF* Steve Nash bolts this offseason you might be able to get Jamison for KVH and Frank Williams, *IF* Frank plays very well the rest of this year as a backup to Marbury and shows bigtime starter potential.
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