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knicks1248
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12/24/2010  1:32 PM
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/12/23/russell-westbrook-raymond-felton-most-improved/

This got me thinking, if gallo or felton took as many shots as westbrook or melo, would they avg more points..

I think the general NBA fan is going to look at the #s and come to the conclusion that if you avg more points your the better player, the more knowledgable fan is going to think other wise

It's the same argument i have with Fields and Blake for R O Y..the clips are no better then they are with blake in the line up then without him, as a matter of fact there a few game worse, which means he has done nothing for the franchise other then put a few extra fans in the seats to watch a dunk show.

I also hate that a player in the 2nd year of his rookie contract, should be eligible of an award that you get for being the years best rookie, but technically your not a rookie. It wasn't the league's fualt he got hurt "in his rookie year", those are the breaks.

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12/24/2010  2:08 PM
Westbrook is a star PG. He is beyound MIP. Next level. He is elite.
Felton is improved but it is the system, the coach, and the Stat.
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12/24/2010  2:22 PM
1248, you're right with the Rookie of the Year award. Blake shouldn't be eligible. It's not Landry's fault he injured himself. What a crock.
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12/24/2010  2:26 PM
orangeblobman wrote:1248, you're right with the Rookie of the Year award. Blake shouldn't be eligible. It's not Landry's fault he injured himself. What a crock.

John Wall's averaging 17 / 9 / 4 / 2... Landry is 3rd in the ROY chase

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12/24/2010  2:30 PM
TMS wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:1248, you're right with the Rookie of the Year award. Blake shouldn't be eligible. It's not Landry's fault he injured himself. What a crock.

John Wall's averaging 17 / 9 / 4 / 2... Landry is 3rd in the ROY chase

he's played 15 out of their 27 games. and his team is 7-20.

Landry has started every game and his team is 17-12.

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12/24/2010  2:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/24/2010  2:34 PM
crzymdups wrote:
TMS wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:1248, you're right with the Rookie of the Year award. Blake shouldn't be eligible. It's not Landry's fault he injured himself. What a crock.

John Wall's averaging 17 / 9 / 4 / 2... Landry is 3rd in the ROY chase

he's played 15 out of their 27 games. and his team is 7-20.

Landry has started every game and his team is 17-12.

every game he's played he's put up very impressive #'s... take a gander at his game logs... Landry's been great but he's not ROY this year ahead of Griffin & Wall IMO... the NBA will want to market the bigger, more exciting names... it's wishful thinking on our part for Landry to win unless u see him beast down the stretch to make him the clearcut winner... it's probably more likely Griffin & Wall do the same being as though they are both featured players in their team's systems whereas Landry is in a support role.

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12/24/2010  3:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/24/2010  3:05 PM
I know the ROY goes to best statistical rookie, so there's no chance of Fields getting it. Usually, a team with a ROY candidate was a lottery team the previous season, almost ensuring that they won't be a very good team during the player's rookie year, anyway. So while Fields is making an impact on a winning team, it really doesn't matter what the Knicks record is because that's not considered when awarding the ROY.

Still, Fields is the man, and if I were making the selection I would take Fields ROY and Coach Mike COY.

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12/24/2010  3:11 PM
orangeblobman wrote:I know the ROY goes to best statistical rookie, so there's no chance of Fields getting it. Usually, a team with a ROY candidate was a lottery team the previous season, almost ensuring that they won't be a very good team during the player's rookie year, anyway. So while Fields is making an impact on a winning team, it really doesn't matter what the Knicks record is because that's not considered when awarding the ROY.

Still, Fields is the man, and if I were making the selection I would take Fields ROY and Coach Mike COY.

Thats because you're just another homer on a Knicks forum.

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12/24/2010  3:23 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I know the ROY goes to best statistical rookie, so there's no chance of Fields getting it. Usually, a team with a ROY candidate was a lottery team the previous season, almost ensuring that they won't be a very good team during the player's rookie year, anyway. So while Fields is making an impact on a winning team, it really doesn't matter what the Knicks record is because that's not considered when awarding the ROY.

Still, Fields is the man, and if I were making the selection I would take Fields ROY and Coach Mike COY.

Thats because you're just another homer on a Knicks forum.

True. And what?

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12/24/2010  3:23 PM
orangeblobman wrote:I know the ROY goes to best statistical rookie, so there's no chance of Fields getting it. Usually, a team with a ROY candidate was a lottery team the previous season, almost ensuring that they won't be a very good team during the player's rookie year, anyway. So while Fields is making an impact on a winning team, it really doesn't matter what the Knicks record is because that's not considered when awarding the ROY.

Still, Fields is the man, and if I were making the selection I would take Fields ROY and Coach Mike COY.

stop talking white!

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12/24/2010  3:26 PM
cheers wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I know the ROY goes to best statistical rookie, so there's no chance of Fields getting it. Usually, a team with a ROY candidate was a lottery team the previous season, almost ensuring that they won't be a very good team during the player's rookie year, anyway. So while Fields is making an impact on a winning team, it really doesn't matter what the Knicks record is because that's not considered when awarding the ROY.

Still, Fields is the man, and if I were making the selection I would take Fields ROY and Coach Mike COY.

stop talking white!

But I beez dat.

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12/24/2010  3:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/24/2010  3:51 PM
arkrud wrote:Westbrook is a star PG. He is beyound MIP. Next level. He is elite.
Felton is improved but it is the system, the coach, and the Stat.

The only think westbrook has over felt is athletisism, if that makes you elite, then we should have a league full of elite players. You put westbrook with LB and watch his numbers take a severe dip, also take into consideration WB is a combo guard, while Felts more of a tradition PG..


John Wall's averaging 17 / 9 / 4 / 2... Landry is 3rd in the ROY chase

He doesn't do that consistantly, cause he doesn't play consistantly..Would you give any award to a guy who played half the season or 3 quartes the most....

Two injury prone players up for rookie of the year..

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12/24/2010  3:58 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
cheers wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I know the ROY goes to best statistical rookie, so there's no chance of Fields getting it. Usually, a team with a ROY candidate was a lottery team the previous season, almost ensuring that they won't be a very good team during the player's rookie year, anyway. So while Fields is making an impact on a winning team, it really doesn't matter what the Knicks record is because that's not considered when awarding the ROY.

Still, Fields is the man, and if I were making the selection I would take Fields ROY and Coach Mike COY.

stop talking white!

But I beez dat.

LOL

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12/24/2010  4:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/24/2010  4:07 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
John Wall's averaging 17 / 9 / 4 / 2... Landry is 3rd in the ROY chase

He doesn't do that consistantly, cause he doesn't play consistantly..Would you give any award to a guy who played half the season or 3 quartes the most....

Two injury prone players up for rookie of the year..

i bet you $100 that either Blake Griffin or John Wall will win ROY this season... if Landry Fields wins, you win.

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12/24/2010  9:16 PM
Lmao at fields for ROY when I see Griffin on ESPN every night.
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12/24/2010  9:36 PM
If the NBA had the guts to make the right decision then Fields should be ROY. Griffin doesn't even qualify he is in year 2, and Wall is still 7-20. Just because they don't have the guts and will choose one of those latter two does NOT make it the right decision.
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12/24/2010  9:54 PM
loweyecue wrote:If the NBA had the guts to make the right decision then Fields should be ROY. Griffin doesn't even qualify he is in year 2, and Wall is still 7-20. Just because they don't have the guts and will choose one of those latter two does NOT make it the right decision.

paul wall getting roy. bleh. nba needs to make the right decision, fields of gold.

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12/25/2010  11:57 AM
TMS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
John Wall's averaging 17 / 9 / 4 / 2... Landry is 3rd in the ROY chase

He doesn't do that consistantly, cause he doesn't play consistantly..Would you give any award to a guy who played half the season or 3 quartes the most....

Two injury prone players up for rookie of the year..

i bet you $100 that either Blake Griffin or John Wall will win ROY this season... if Landry Fields wins, you win.

Heads you lose, tails i win

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12/25/2010  4:59 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
TMS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
John Wall's averaging 17 / 9 / 4 / 2... Landry is 3rd in the ROY chase

He doesn't do that consistantly, cause he doesn't play consistantly..Would you give any award to a guy who played half the season or 3 quartes the most....

Two injury prone players up for rookie of the year..

i bet you $100 that either Blake Griffin or John Wall will win ROY this season... if Landry Fields wins, you win.

Heads you lose, tails i win

plus its a sukkas bet tms is giving himself two to one odds that he wins. see this is why you cant gamble with tms!

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