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earthmansurfer
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12/22/2010  2:58 PM
I'm just curious as he is the center of the NJ trade talk. Is he looking that promising because the late first round picks that NJ may be able to trade sure don't seem appealing. Whey you see this kid play do you see someone who can be a star? In other words is his potential off the charts. I do know he is only 19 however.

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12/22/2010  3:07 PM
Favors is the second best rookie to come out of this years draft. Not even in the same 'field' as the best pick though.
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12/22/2010  3:14 PM
Actually, I think the potential for two first round picks with one from the currently crappy and potentially gutted Nets team and a pick that NJ acquired from other crappy teams are at least as appealing as Favors.
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12/22/2010  3:14 PM
Olbrannon wrote:Favors is the second best rookie to come out of this years draft. Not even in the same 'field' as the best pick though.

u really think he's better than John Wall? i think Wall is easily the best rookie to come out of this year's draft & it's not even close... Fields has been the steal of the draft by far, but he is not going to be the star player that Wall will be... Favors has the same kind of potential to reach star status... that's why DEN is higher on getting him as opposed to Landry Fields, who they are interested in, but not nearly enough to pull the trigger on right now for their franchise player... i think Favors has much bigger bust potential than either Wall or Fields also.

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12/22/2010  3:19 PM
TMS wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:Favors is the second best rookie to come out of this years draft. Not even in the same 'field' as the best pick though.

u really think he's better than John Wall? i think Wall is easily the best rookie to come out of this year's draft & it's not even close... Fields has been the steal of the draft by far, but he is not going to be the star player that Wall will be... Favors has the same kind of potential to reach star status... that's why DEN is higher on getting him as opposed to Landry Fields, who they are interested in, but not nearly enough to pull the trigger on right now for their franchise player... i think Favors has much bigger bust potential than either Wall or Fields also.

Tongue in cheek man...that should be obvious. But in the end I think Favors will have a greater impact on the NBA assuming both play healthy for the next ten years. Favors measurements are the same as Howards at that age....and he can shoot a bit.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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12/22/2010  3:28 PM
Olbrannon wrote:
TMS wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:Favors is the second best rookie to come out of this years draft. Not even in the same 'field' as the best pick though.

u really think he's better than John Wall? i think Wall is easily the best rookie to come out of this year's draft & it's not even close... Fields has been the steal of the draft by far, but he is not going to be the star player that Wall will be... Favors has the same kind of potential to reach star status... that's why DEN is higher on getting him as opposed to Landry Fields, who they are interested in, but not nearly enough to pull the trigger on right now for their franchise player... i think Favors has much bigger bust potential than either Wall or Fields also.

Tongue in cheek man...that should be obvious. But in the end I think Favors will have a greater impact on the NBA assuming both play healthy for the next ten years. Favors measurements are the same as Howards at that age....and he can shoot a bit.

not to say i don't like favors potential but i think john wall changes the way the pg position is played in the nba for years to come. just has to get healthy...

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12/22/2010  3:34 PM
what...by dribbling with the ball in front of him at 10mph while suffering from poor decision making.

Not sold on wall until he learns to shoot the rook also.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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12/22/2010  3:40 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:what...by dribbling with the ball in front of him at 10mph while suffering from poor decision making.

Not sold on wall until he learns to shoot the rook also.

the shooting and decision-making will come with professional coaching, like he's getting already. the same was said about derrick rose coming out of college (who I was first to the party about on this forum) but his speed and athleticism do not compare to walls. walls speed and playmaking ability are going to change the way the game is played in the nba.

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12/22/2010  4:03 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:what...by dribbling with the ball in front of him at 10mph while suffering from poor decision making.

Not sold on wall until he learns to shoot the rook also.

Rondo still can't shoot the rock but he's developed into 1 of the top PGs in the NBA... John Wall possesses more speed, athletic ability & raw potential than any other young PG in the NBA right now... he just needs to put it all together... every young rookie needs to go through his growing pains in the NBA... u put this kid into an uptempo style game & he will dazzle every night he's on the floor... when he fully matures as an NBA player, there won't be anyone in the league that will be able to guard him.

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12/22/2010  4:11 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:I'm just curious as he is the center of the NJ trade talk. Is he looking that promising because the late first round picks that NJ may be able to trade sure don't seem appealing. Whey you see this kid play do you see someone who can be a star? In other words is his potential off the charts. I do know he is only 19 however.

Stats: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=4257

why you think a deal hasn't been made, there not gaga over anything the Nets have to offer, unless it was the trade dead line,,

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12/22/2010  4:23 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:I'm just curious as he is the center of the NJ trade talk. Is he looking that promising because the late first round picks that NJ may be able to trade sure don't seem appealing. Whey you see this kid play do you see someone who can be a star? In other words is his potential off the charts. I do know he is only 19 however.

Stats: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=4257

why you think a deal hasn't been made, there not gaga over anything the Nets have to offer, unless it was the trade dead line,,

The Russian is probably willing to take on the bad contracts of Chris Andersen,
Al Harrington, & Renaldo Balkman for a few expiring deals including Sasha Vujacic
(Not eligible to be traded for a few weeks) plus add $3 Mil, and a few 1st rnd draft
picks.

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12/22/2010  4:40 PM
grillco wrote:Actually, I think the potential for two first round picks with one from the currently crappy and potentially gutted Nets team and a pick that NJ acquired from other crappy teams are at least as appealing as Favors.

Yes and know. This next draft might not even happen or will just have seniors in it, depending on the CBA disagreement. And Melo and Lopez should be good enough to at least compete well next year. I didn't know NJ had a lotto pick from another team.

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12/22/2010  5:22 PM
I try to watch the Nets when the Knicks aren't on. Favors is pretty good but I think they messed up not taking Cousins.
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12/22/2010  6:31 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:what...by dribbling with the ball in front of him at 10mph while suffering from poor decision making.

Not sold on wall until he learns to shoot the rook also.


He still has higher potential and production over basically any rookie besides Griffin(if you count him)
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12/22/2010  11:06 PM
tj23 wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:what...by dribbling with the ball in front of him at 10mph while suffering from poor decision making.

Not sold on wall until he learns to shoot the rook also.


He still has higher potential and production over basically any rookie besides Griffin(if you count him)

I watched Favors at Ga Tech. I am impressed with him. He is just 19 fer crissake and already showing the right tools. I was impressed by his vigor and his unwillingness to quit. H has good hands and shows good awareness. Against Alabi and Singleton and Reid the guy had a double double with only Lawal to help him really. both games he played well.

Favors potential to impact the game is just as big as John Wall's

That said ...if anybody can get Wall's mind right it's Sam Cassel...and that is a scary thought.

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12/22/2010  11:09 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I try to watch the Nets when the Knicks aren't on. Favors is pretty good but I think they messed up not taking Cousins.

i don't... Cousins has some huge maturity issues... the Kings had to suspend him a game because of this:

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12/22/2010  11:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2010  11:37 PM
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I try to watch the Nets when the Knicks aren't on. Favors is pretty good but I think they messed up not taking Cousins.

i don't... Cousins has some huge maturity issues... the Kings had to suspend him a game because of this:

Cousins has crazy eyes. He looks like the kind of guy that if you went out with him he would end up getting you involved in a fight. That being said he is an incredible talent. Maturity and possibly emotional stability are a concern. However his talent is tremendous. Watching the whole Sac situation with Westphal is interesting.
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12/22/2010  11:40 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Cousins has crazy eyes. He looks like the kind of guy that if you went out with him he would end up getting you involved in a fight. That being said he is an incredible talent. Maturity and possibly emotional stability are a concern. However his talent is tremendous. Watching the whole Sac situation with Westphal is interesting.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't people say that about...

... this guy too?

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12/23/2010  12:20 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I try to watch the Nets when the Knicks aren't on. Favors is pretty good but I think they messed up not taking Cousins.

i don't... Cousins has some huge maturity issues... the Kings had to suspend him a game because of this:

Cousins has crazy eyes. He looks like the kind of guy that if you went out with him he would end up getting you involved in a fight. That being said he is an incredible talent. Maturity and possibly emotional stability are a concern. However his talent is tremendous. Watching the whole Sac situation with Westphal is interesting.

I suppose this is scarier to you than a guy who repeatedly beats his head againt a mostly immovable object before a big game?

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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