Posted by Snowman:

Everyone with half a brain knows that UTAH would love to have KVH back up there !!

Everyone with a half a brain knows that when you trade for someone (in your case Ostertag) you CAN'T trade him for another 90 days in which would be past the trading deadline. So your trade proposals have no shot at all of coming true.

Posted by martin:

well now, this is getting interesting. Switch in Rahim for Weed and I think I like the deal. I say ALT takes Ostertag for the same reason.

Yea but we wouldn't be able to trade Ostertag again because of the 90-day rule. So there is not shot of that happening. Plus I would rather have Wallace than Rahim. Rahim is talented but he's another soft player like Van Horn, thats not what this Knicks team needs right now.

Posted by djsunyc:

i think it's if you don't trade them within 48 hours of the initial trade, then you can't move him for 90 days.

wow, then that changes the whole situation, doesn't it. i could work with that. ok ok "you think" lol

If you want Rahim this would be the 3 team trade

New York trades: C Dikembe Mutombo (6.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 24.6 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.5 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.2 minutes)
SF Keith Van Horn (16.6 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 33.8 minutes)
New York receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (20.0 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 36.4 minutes)
PF Keon Clark (2.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.5 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -12.3 ppg, -10.2 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

Atlanta trades: PF Chris Crawford (2.6 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.1 minutes)
PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (20.0 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 36.4 minutes)
PG Jacque Vaughn (4.5 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.3 apg in 20.9 minutes)
Atlanta receives: C Dikembe Mutombo (6.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 46 games)
C Kurt Thomas (11.5 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 45 games)
C Greg Ostertag (7.7 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 39 games)
Change in team outlook: -1.7 ppg, +11.5 rpg, and -1.7 apg.

Utah trades: C Greg Ostertag (7.7 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.6 minutes)
PF Keon Clark (2.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.5 minutes)
Utah receives: SF Keith Van Horn (16.6 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 39 games)
Change in team outlook: +6.9 ppg, -4.8 rpg, and -0.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Trade ID number 1446403

so the plot thickens...good topic and idea snow.

yea i like this trade a lot. we'd have some real high energy players.as much as i hate rasheed, that would look like a great line up. just have to hope nobody gets injured, as we'd have no bench. even with no injuries we'd be in trouble on the bench except for frank w. i suppose theres not much of a bench right now anyhow except penny. maybe we could move frank w and shannon together for some other big for our bench and a draft pick or something.