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12/21/2010  10:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2010  10:15 AM
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12/21/2010  10:15 AM
It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.
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12/21/2010  10:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2010  10:34 AM
crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient at least until around the deadline.

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12/21/2010  10:24 AM
i'm not going to lose sleep over this. nets aren't going to be too much better than us because a)avery johnson is a horrible coach b)brook lopez is a soft big man c)they have a lot of overpaid players with bad contracts petro, farmar and to a lesser extent morrow....

they are going to regret giving up on favors.

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12/21/2010  10:25 AM
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. If he really wants to come here, he needs to inform them that he wont sign any extention until the summer. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient.

Melo basically admitted his first priority is signing the extension. And I can't blame him for that.

The league might change a lot with the new CBA - but I can guarantee you that existing deals will be grandfathered in. He'd be insane to leave $65M on the table. We can posture all we want, but having no contract at all versus having $65M is a pretty major difference heading into a labor dispute.

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12/21/2010  10:33 AM
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crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. If he really wants to come here, he needs to inform them that he wont sign any extention until the summer. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient.

Melo basically admitted his first priority is signing the extension. And I can't blame him for that.

The league might change a lot with the new CBA - but I can guarantee you that existing deals will be grandfathered in. He'd be insane to leave $65M on the table. We can posture all we want, but having no contract at all versus having $65M is a pretty major difference heading into a labor dispute.

Thats it. That extension is his first priority and I think privately the Nuggs may have told him they will not ship to the Knicks. The idea that Melo will wait until the summer is a pipe dream because as you mentioned, he wants that money before the new CBA kicks in. Thats why I've said over and over that we have to trade for this guy this year and not take any chances and hope he will sign in the summer. Too many things can happen from now until then. Plus, it always comes down to dollars with the athletes regardless of the BS they spoon feed to the press.

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12/21/2010  10:35 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. If he really wants to come here, he needs to inform them that he wont sign any extention until the summer. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient.

Melo basically admitted his first priority is signing the extension. And I can't blame him for that.

The league might change a lot with the new CBA - but I can guarantee you that existing deals will be grandfathered in. He'd be insane to leave $65M on the table. We can posture all we want, but having no contract at all versus having $65M is a pretty major difference heading into a labor dispute.

I thought Stern made it clear every NBA contract would be effected? He said he would never take away Melo's right to free agency, meaning it will cost him the same no matter what.

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12/21/2010  10:43 AM
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crzymdups wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. If he really wants to come here, he needs to inform them that he wont sign any extention until the summer. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient.

Melo basically admitted his first priority is signing the extension. And I can't blame him for that.

The league might change a lot with the new CBA - but I can guarantee you that existing deals will be grandfathered in. He'd be insane to leave $65M on the table. We can posture all we want, but having no contract at all versus having $65M is a pretty major difference heading into a labor dispute.

I thought Stern made it clear every NBA contract would be effected? He said he would never take away Melo's right to free agency, meaning it will cost him the same no matter what.

yeah, he's allowed to say whatever he wants before the actual negotiations start.

there is absolutely no way whatsoever any NBA player agrees to an existing contract being reduced. it won't happen. stern knows if he actually does that the league will go away for a full year at minimum.

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12/21/2010  10:44 AM
NUGGETS are just creaming their pants for favors.. honestly, I don't know why, but I hope they make the deal, and he is a major bust... haha
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12/21/2010  10:50 AM
I wanted Melo on the Knicks. He was the only way we were ever going to beat Lebron. He was one of the few players in the league who could make Lebron work.
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12/21/2010  10:51 AM
tkf wrote:NUGGETS are just creaming their pants for favors.. honestly, I don't know why, but I hope they make the deal, and he is a major bust... haha

Cause they are about to lose KMart, Nene, Melo. They need front court help next year at low cost.

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12/21/2010  10:58 AM
At the end of the day it might just abe a big game of chicken. Just last week, reports leaked that it was NY or bust for Melo. Now, all of a sudden he's warming up to the idea of playing in the swamp. I can imagine Melos camp leaking the Melo to NY reports and the Nuggets countering by leaking the Nets reports as way to possibly force NY's hand in terms of spicing up thier offer (maybe including Feilds to a package of Gallo and Chandler.) IDK, its just me thinking out loud. All I know is Walsh is known for being patient but lets hope he's not too patient and miss the boat here.
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12/21/2010  11:02 AM
if melo wants a midseason trade that badly then let him goto the nets. i'm not gutting this team for him.
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12/21/2010  11:02 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvAyCPfgPU8bTj2gfMhyp3C8vLYF?slug=aw-anthonytalks122110

Nets structuring new deal for Anthony

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports

The Denver Nuggets and New Jersey Nets are advancing on another complicated multiteam trade proposal that would likely fit Carmelo Anthony’s criteria for signing a contract extension with the Nets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Anthony is inclined to accept a trade and contract extension with New Jersey over his preferred choice of New York only if the Nets are able to bring back a package of significant talent with him, league sources involved in the talks said on Monday.

So far, there are trade scenarios that include a combination of Anthony’s Denver teammates – including forward Al Harrington – and other league players coming to the Nets.


“The way this is structured now, the Nets will significantly upgrade their team,” said one NBA executive involved in the talks.

Said a Western Conference executive whose team has pursued Anthony: “ ’Melo wants something similar to the Orlando deal, where he won’t have to go into New Jersey – or anywhere he’s going – without some help right away.”

Denver’s and New Jersey’s trade partners are still unclear, but league executives said the Nets and Nuggets are tweaking several possible proposals with multiple teams. For now, New Jersey general manager Billy King is preparing to send rookie forward Derrick Favors, the expiring contract of Troy Murphy, two or three future first-round draft picks and $3 million to Denver for minimally Anthony and Harrington. More Nuggets and Nets would likely be on the move, too.

Center Brook Lopez is the only Nets player not involved in any of the proposals, sources said.

The Nuggets’ sudden urgency to move the unhappy Anthony is the reason more teams have been calling lately, including two contenders who are willing to chase a championship with Anthony as a rental player, a league source said. The Nuggets could do those deals without consulting Anthony, because those teams aren’t requiring a contract extension with Anthony to make the trade.

Several executives involved in the talks believe a deal will come sooner than later. Denver has made clear to teams the bidding process will culminate long before the Feb. 24 trade deadline.

No deal is imminent, but sources involved in the talks believe that early January is a realistic target. The New York Knicks are still Anthony’s preferred destination, but so far there are no trade packages involving the Knicks that interest Denver. Knicks GM Donnie Walsh and Nuggets GM Masai Ujiri have been talking more in the past couple weeks, but sources said Denver officials still prefer the Nets’ multiple picks and Favors.

Nuggets president Josh Kroenke and Ujiri haven’t spoken in two weeks with Anthony about the approval process on a trade, a source said, but they’ve proceeded with an understanding that fattening a package for the Nets will go a long way toward getting him to sign an extension. When the time comes, the Nets are planning to have owner Mikhail Prokhorov personally sell Anthony on the Nets’ future in Brooklyn beyond 2012.

There are no teams involved in the pursuit of Anthony, including the Knicks, who believe Anthony is willing to pass on a contract extension before the trade deadline. With the owners determined to make sharp cuts into player salaries with a new collective bargaining agreement, Anthony’s willingness to accept a compromise sign-and-trade to get his three-year, $64 million extension illustrates his reluctance to enter free agency under a more restrictive salary structure.

The Nets would need to trade point guard Devin Harris to a third team to help bring back more talent, and somehow they have to come out of this trade with a veteran replacement. Chauncey Billups is a possibility, but there are questions about how much longer he can perform at an elevated level. Another player the Nuggets will likely move is shooting guard J.R. Smith, who has drawn interest from the Chicago Bulls. Smith is making $6 million in the final year of his contract, and would love to end up with the Bulls, sources said. So far, Denver has resisted Chicago’s overtures on Smith because it may need to include him in a larger deal with Anthony. Bulls GM Gar Forman has been calling league personnel to do more research on the temperamental Smith, sources said.

The Nuggets and Nets had the framework of a four-team trade with Utah and Charlotte in October, but the deal ultimately fell apart. As involved as that scenario was, one executive involved in the past and present discussions described these as “a more complex, even bigger deal.”

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12/21/2010  11:36 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I know, just a little morning humor. But seriously, you are right the Nuggs seem hell-bent against sending Melo our way. So now its up to Melo. If he really wants to come here, he needs to inform them that he wont sign any extention until the summer. I think Melo is getting restless and impatient and just wants to get out of town. The Nuggs seemed to have 'smoked-him-out' in a sense as they have waited and waited until Melo bailed and accepted thier wishes. I just hope Melo can be a little more patient.

Melo basically admitted his first priority is signing the extension. And I can't blame him for that.

The league might change a lot with the new CBA - but I can guarantee you that existing deals will be grandfathered in. He'd be insane to leave $65M on the table. We can posture all we want, but having no contract at all versus having $65M is a pretty major difference heading into a labor dispute.

I think Melo going where he doesn't want to be would be insane. How different would your life be if you had 65 million Vs. say 50 million? Would you have one more mansion? I can't believe more players just don't go where they want to. You hear "It's a business". Hey, it's what you make it, so if you want it to be a business then you accept that.

If Melo has a contract and there is no league next year, he doesn't get paid.

It is interesting that Wade, Bosh and Bron left a lot of endorsement money by going to Miami. So, in a way, that is an example of what I'm saying.

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12/21/2010  11:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2010  12:12 PM
crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I really think this may be it -- I first thought that maybe Donnie was a little indecisive on this but in the end of the day I now believe there may be something to DEN not wanting to appease Melo and send him to his first choice and have probably told him so..They probably don't like the idea that the Knicks preceive them over a barrel on this too and may be intent on showing people that that's just not the case...If DEN went back to Melo and said, 'listen buddy, NY's out---I don't care what they offer and it ain't much that they are offering for you, I got news for ya, it's either NJ or nothing, no extension under the current CBA that I know you want' then there goes Melo's leverage...He just came out and said he wants the extension and I think he really wants that 6-yr extension, not the one waiting for him next summer under the new CBA which may not be nearly as favorable.. Just dying to know if Donnie ever really made a really strong, competitive offer for this guy..Offering peanuts and thinking he'd just come next summer as a FA is presumptous and not the right move as far as I have been concerned..If that's been our stance, then we ran the risk of Melo losing patience and DEN not waivering. That appears to be the case now...On the flip side I really do see the logic in not wanting to gut the team in order to bring him here..That wouldn't make too much sense either...Hey, Melo would be great here with Amar'e but if this isn't meant to be we move on..

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12/21/2010  11:49 AM
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crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I really think this may be it -- I first thought that maybe Donnie was a little indecisive on this but in the end of the day I now believe DEN doesn't want to appease Melo and send him to his first choice and have probably told him so..They probably don't like the idea that the Knicks preceive them over a barrel on this too..Just dying to know if Donnie ever made a really strong offer for him though..Hey, Melo would be great here with Amar'e but if this isn't meant to be we move on..

Denver is definately giving out the vibe that they don't want to send Melo where he wants to go. I am surprised though that NJ is still going after Melo after that fake out on Melo about being traded to NJ.

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12/21/2010  12:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2010  12:14 PM
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Finestrg wrote:
crzymdups wrote:It's not a matter of Donnie waking up - we have nothing the Nuggets want in a trade. And, moreover, it seems like the Nuggets ACTIVELY do not want to deal with NYK. They don't want to send Melo where he wants to go.

I really think this may be it -- I first thought that maybe Donnie was a little indecisive on this but in the end of the day I now believe DEN doesn't want to appease Melo and send him to his first choice and have probably told him so..They probably don't like the idea that the Knicks preceive them over a barrel on this too..Just dying to know if Donnie ever made a really strong offer for him though..Hey, Melo would be great here with Amar'e but if this isn't meant to be we move on..

Denver is definately giving out the vibe that they don't want to send Melo where he wants to go. I am surprised though that NJ is still going after Melo after that fake out on Melo about being traded to NJ.

Hey if he really is dead set against staying in DEN & Jersey's his best option, he's gonna take it...NJ soon to be Brooklyn, NY area, brand new team with a lot of possibilities, great for his wife's career, not playing with his friend Amar'e but they'd be right near each other--they could hook up all the time and see each other. He and LaLa are back close to their families..And he'd get the full boat as far as his contract extension is concerned..Not bad..It might take that team awhile to retool around him though if they give up the moon to bring him there..It might wind up being a worse team than the one he has in DEN for awhile--far worse..That's the only thing...He's gonna have to weigh all his options..NJ is a very real possibility though, esp. if NY either hasn't been aggressive enough or has been eliminated altogether by DEN management..

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12/21/2010  12:07 PM
If Carmelo Anthony wants to continue to be a nobody and waste his career in a dump like Jersey, go ahead.
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12/21/2010  12:12 PM
Denver does want to be dictated to. Nets can always make a better offer.

It has been reported he would not have a problem with free agency.

So if he takes the extension and the trade to Jersey he was insincere.

These guys always take the money.

Don't blame Donnie, Denver don't want to deal with us and overpaying for him makes no sense.

If nets do this deal Im less impressed with ownership. They paniced.

If Melo does this IM less impressesd with him. It was about Money and being in NY. Not about winning. YOu can have 2 out of three.

I want him to be a knick, but not at a crazy price.

Is Melo warming up to the idea of being a Net?

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