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12/17/2010  2:52 AM
3 plan-b guys who werent supposed to beat the best, beat the best. a true story i want a ringless lebron in retirement to remember.. that's the ether that burns slow. the knicks mission statement for the rest of lebron's nba career, no lebron team gets passed new york for a chip. just as pierce earned his rep as a knick killa. FAM will earn their rep as a heat killa. make it happen walsh, we believe, we waiting.
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12/17/2010  2:53 AM
if there were a "Like" button for this thread, i've have clicked on it.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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12/17/2010  7:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2010  7:10 AM
Great idea but let's find a different third plan B guy--one who tries on both ends of the court.
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12/17/2010  7:32 AM
This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?
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12/17/2010  7:48 AM
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

It's the same thing we said about Marbury. He'll be motivated in NY and he'll play harder on D and have a better attitude. Well that lasted about half a season.

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12/17/2010  7:51 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

It's the same thing we said about Marbury. He'll be motivated in NY and he'll play harder on D and have a better attitude. Well that lasted about half a season.


get your facts straight and just stop with the out and out lies. Marbury was good for at least a year here
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12/17/2010  7:52 AM
I think it's just crazy that people don't want Melo on this team. He is a great player, a closer you need to compete for championships, and players like him become available very rarely. Felton, Stat, and Melo is a group that can compete with other team's elite talent and is a better fit together than the Miami Big 3. With the right role players, we can definitely win multiple championships and be contenders right away with this core.
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12/17/2010  8:44 AM
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

It's the same thing we said about Marbury. He'll be motivated in NY and he'll play harder on D and have a better attitude. Well that lasted about half a season.


get your facts straight and just stop with the out and out lies. Marbury was good for at least a year here

It was actually 0.7 seasons but I rounded down to the nearest half season, moron!

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12/17/2010  8:45 AM
Knixkik wrote:I think it's just crazy that people don't want Melo on this team. He is a great player, a closer you need to compete for championships, and players like him become available very rarely. Felton, Stat, and Melo is a group that can compete with other team's elite talent and is a better fit together than the Miami Big 3. With the right role players, we can definitely win multiple championships and be contenders right away with this core.

It's not that no one wants him. It's that we don't want half the team's salary cap locked on him for the next six years (and don't want to have to give up what it would take to get him). If he would sign here as an FA for slightly above the MLE, I'd be all for it but that obviously won't happen.

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12/17/2010  8:53 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

It's the same thing we said about Marbury. He'll be motivated in NY and he'll play harder on D and have a better attitude. Well that lasted about half a season.

Come on! Carmelo Anthony is not Stephon Marbury! A lot of you get on me because I'm not a fan of Danilo Gallinari and post honestly and realistically about him but some of you are just plain haters when it comes to Melo!

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12/17/2010  8:56 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I think it's just crazy that people don't want Melo on this team. He is a great player, a closer you need to compete for championships, and players like him become available very rarely. Felton, Stat, and Melo is a group that can compete with other team's elite talent and is a better fit together than the Miami Big 3. With the right role players, we can definitely win multiple championships and be contenders right away with this core.

It's not that no one wants him. It's that we don't want half the team's salary cap locked on him for the next six years (and don't want to have to give up what it would take to get him). If he would sign here as an FA for slightly above the MLE, I'd be all for it but that obviously won't happen.

I don't understand why you guys are worried about how much he makes. If you can add Melo without losing Gallo or Chandler you will have the bird rights of that player. You know once the core is set that the teams have to exceed the cap restrictions. Just look at any good team out there. Besides the Knicks are basically known to break the bank once they have something tangible. Amare, Felton, Melo, Chandler and role players would mean that the Knicks have something tangible. We need Melo, you want to win chips Melo gives you the best shot at winning chips vs other elite teams.

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12/17/2010  8:58 AM
iSergio wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

It's the same thing we said about Marbury. He'll be motivated in NY and he'll play harder on D and have a better attitude. Well that lasted about half a season.

Come on! Carmelo Anthony is not Stephon Marbury! A lot of you get on me because I'm not a fan of Danilo Gallinari and post honestly and realistically about him but some of you are just plain haters when it comes to Melo!

Totally agree with you. He is no Marbury how someone can make an out and out lie like that is beyond me. Melo is guaranteed playoffs year in and year out.

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12/17/2010  9:00 AM
"One rumor had New York offering Danilo Gallinari, Landry Fields, and more (a first round pick that New York would have to trade for), in a Carmelo swap. I’m not stubborn enough to think that Gallo or Fields should stand in the way of getting an “elite” or “top 10″ player, as Carmelo has been called. But let’s be frank, Anthony is not in that group. There’s no measure that puts him in the top 10, and there’s no rational argument to show that right now he’s better than LeBron, Wade, Dirk, Paul, Durant, Howard, Garnett, Duncan, Kobe, or Nash. With Amar’e on the team, Carmelo Anthony wouldn’t even be the best player on the Knicks. Even Hollinger’s PER, which overrates volume scorers like Carmelo, has him ranked 22nd, between Paul Millsap and David West.

Against Boston, the best defense in the league, New York’s offense was roaring with a robust 58.6% eFG. The Knicks didn’t need scoring, they needed depth and defense. Only three players came off the bench for New York that night, and all three had negative +/- for the game. The Knicks lead seemed to shrink each time Ronny Turiaf (-11), Toney Douglas (-9), and Shawne Williams (-3) entered the game. Additionally they let the Celtics shoot a healthy 56.4% eFG, higher than their yearly average.

Trading multiple players, including two starters, for Carmelo Anthony doesn’t seem to address these weaknesses. In fact you could argue that making such a deal now, instead of waiting for free agency, would exacerbate them. The Knicks have the fourth best offense and the ninth worst defense. Perhaps getting a few bench players that could help solidify their defense, and letting this exciting team run its course this year is the better option."

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12/17/2010  9:53 AM
Vmart wrote:
iSergio wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

It's the same thing we said about Marbury. He'll be motivated in NY and he'll play harder on D and have a better attitude. Well that lasted about half a season.

Come on! Carmelo Anthony is not Stephon Marbury! A lot of you get on me because I'm not a fan of Danilo Gallinari and post honestly and realistically about him but some of you are just plain haters when it comes to Melo!

Totally agree with you. He is no Marbury how someone can make an out and out lie like that is beyond me. Melo is guaranteed playoffs year in and year out.

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12/17/2010  10:18 AM
I don't have a doubt in my mind that Carmelo desperately wants to be a Knick. I think it'll happen. I'm more convinced of this than I ever was with Lebron.
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12/17/2010  10:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2010  10:54 AM
crzymdups wrote:I don't have a doubt in my mind that Carmelo desperately wants to be a Knick. I think it'll happen. I'm more convinced of this than I ever was with Lebron.

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Why are you so convinced?? We might be getting played again. I just don't trust any of them.

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12/17/2010  10:54 AM
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

Lack of graciousness???? You mean like he doesn't hold out his pinky when he drinks his gatorade or is that servility........civility???? Civility, you know what never mind, I have never been good with edicate.

What I do know is Melo would be great here, no need to over think it. The knicks will have a star in the Front court and on the Wing for the next 4-5 years and it will be great.

Offer Gallo, Ar and some picks....... get it done!!!!

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12/17/2010  10:59 AM
Papabear wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I don't have a doubt in my mind that Carmelo desperately wants to be a Knick. I think it'll happen. I'm more convinced of this than I ever was with Lebron.

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Why are you so convinced?? We might be getting played again. I just don't trust any of them.

Last year the national perception was that the Knicks sucked and were a mess. This year the national perception is "holy crap, what if they get Melo?"

Melo has a choice in where he goes. You think he'll willingly choose New Jersey? I don't.

I think Melo is actually at the stage where he's done almost everything but win. He'll look at the Knicks as his best choice.

It's just a gut feeling, but it's a gut feeling I never had about Bron.

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12/17/2010  11:04 AM
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

Wow, so listening to your theory you are saying the there is no chance that he will improve when he comes here?
I give you Mr. Raymond Felton as my example:
2010: 12.1 points, 5.6 assists, 1.5 steals, 76% free throw
2011: 18.7 points, 8.9 assists, 2.0 steals, 90% free throw

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18217#ixzz18Nwm2nNk

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12/17/2010  11:56 AM
mrnyknicks wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:This constant coveting of Anthony is sickening. He ain't all that! So many of you can't see pass his scoring, and forget about his lack of D, lack of hustle, lack of graciousness. You say "When he gets to NY, he'll pick these skills up." Well I don't know about you, but I see a dog as a dog. If he was a dog on D in Denver, he's gonna be that same chuckin' dog in NY. Are you willing to make that mistake?

Wow, so listening to your theory you are saying the there is no chance that he will improve when he comes here?
I give you Mr. Raymond Felton as my example:

2010: 12.1 points, 5.6 assists, 1.5 steals, 76% free throw
2011: 18.7 points, 8.9 assists, 2.0 steals, 90% free throw

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18217#ixzz18Nwm2nNk

when you factor in pace what does the jump look like?

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