T. Douglas(notes)  	16:02  	1-5  	1-4  	2-2  	 -9  	1  	1  	1  	1  	0  	0  	0  	3  	5
R. Turiaf(notes) 	8:49 	0-1 	0-0 	0-0 	-11 	1 	3 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	1 	0
S. Williams(notes) 	5:31 	1-1 	0-0 	0-0 	-3 	0 	0 	0 	1 	
0 	0 	0 	1 	2

-23 in a combined 30 minutes--as bad as it gets--feel bad for the starters and fans.

This team can really use a young big man who wants to succeed.

iSergio wrote:Another reason we need Carmelo Anthony. We need a second legit scorer and Star to play with that second unit. We just lose too much when Amar'e Stoudemire needs a break. We don't have a second go-to-scorer.

with carmelo we lose fields gallo and Chandler--then try to win 40 games with a maxed out team and no picks.

my move would be to use players who dont play and or picks i.e randolph msgov--whatever high value is perceived and go get an OJ Mayo and Jason Thompson--then lets see where we are--not big salary commitments.

Paladin55 wrote:

iSergio wrote:Another reason we need Carmelo Anthony. We need a second legit scorer and Star to play with that second unit. We just lose too much when Amar'e Stoudemire needs a break. We don't have a second go-to-scorer.

You'll have no depth if you give Denver what they want for Melo.

Why would you give Denver what they want? The have zero leverage. Most I'm doing is either Gallo or Chandler, AR and Curry. Thats it.

martin wrote:hate to admit it but TD's decision making is horrible, and especially against the elite teams it becomes much more glaring.

He better perfect his shot becauase its obvious he has no future with running an offense.

martin wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

martin wrote:hate to admit it but TD's decision making is horrible, and especially against the elite teams it becomes much more glaring.

He better perfect his shot becauase its obvious he has no future with running an offense.

and that's even more distressing. IMHO TD was very good offensively last year. Dont know if the back is hurting and effecting his game or what.

In a game like this one against Boston, I don't think he was anything more than average (for Toney) on the defensive side of the ball.

Patience I guess, but it's frustrating to watch him.

Why did you erase the Othella Harrington thread? Dude is in some serious MVP discussions.

iSergio wrote:Another reason we need Carmelo Anthony. We need a second legit scorer and Star to play with that second unit. We just lose too much when Amar'e Stoudemire needs a break. We don't have a second go-to-scorer.

LOL this game is precisely why we don't need carmelo. 4 knicks starters played over 40 minutes. we don't need a 2nd scorer -- thats ridiculous, one of the best defensive teams gave up the most points they have all season. that means our offense is good.

we got outrebounded by 4 and BOS didn't have shaq or JO. we need rebounding and depth at PG and 4/5. that's it. if denver wants to deal melo for gallinari and curry, fine, i'll do that deal. melo is better than gallo. but giving up anything beyond that -- no way! knicks have all the leverage and don't need scoring.

they need depth at point and up front, melo provides neither. moreover, trading 2 or even 3 rotation players to get carmelo makes the problem WORSE! knicks would struggle to win 40 games if they dealt fields/chandler + gallo for carmelo. as it stands, i think they win 43-47.